sovietchild
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Let's just say that he was real. What do you think drove them to want to slay him?
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How are they not defaming Jesus?
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Let's just say that he was real. What do you think drove them to want to slay him?
QuestioningMind
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Very often you sure seem to be. Very often you sound like you are supporting the fear that Satan thrives on. The God you very often promote seems to hate it when people find joy in life instead of living in constant fear. Satan wants us all to live in fear and that's what you very often seem to be advocating... fear of art, fear of music, fear of 'life' basically. It's sad and yes, it's evil to get people to turn towards fear instead and love and joy. I think you really need to reevaluate who you serve... because it sure doesn't sound as if you serve any god worth following.
sovietchild
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This is not what I'm talking about, let's concentrate on the real issue.
QuestioningMind
Well-Known Member
"Are you saying I'm speaking evil?"
You ASKED, silly child. Shouldn't ask questions that you don't want people to actually answer. And I think that the evil you often speak IS the real issue. It's YOU who defame God when you constantly suggest that God thinks that art and music and finding joy in life is wrong. You preach the exact OPPOSITE message of love and joy that God wants to spread. That seems pretty evil to me.
MJFlores
Well-Known Member
The defamation of the Son of God, Jesus Christ started a long time ago and this continues to our time. That is how people inherit false doctrines over ages.
We can't help that now but the most important thing is when the Lord Jesus returns, he knows you.
Matthew 7:21-23 New International Version (NIV)
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
We can't help that now but the most important thing is when the Lord Jesus returns, he knows you.
Matthew 7:21-23 New International Version (NIV)
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
Bob the Unbeliever
Well-Known Member
"real issue"? I thought we were talking about comic-book characters, you know, like Green Lantern or Iron Man or Jesus or Mahmud.
You know: cartoon caricatures of what it means to be human.
"Let's just say" that it was you then? Since we are empowering ourselves to choose one fiction over another?
sovietchild
Well-Known Member
That is not what I'm talking about, let's concentrate on the real question.
Let's just presume he was real. What do you think drove them to want to crucify him?
The Kilted Heathen
Crow FreyjasmaðR
Is the real question Christians defaming Jesus through iconography, or the Jews killing Jesus? Make up your mind.
sovietchild
Well-Known Member
Is this topic about Christians? Or, those people who defame Jesus?
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The Kilted Heathen
Crow FreyjasmaðR
You tell us; you're the one who made it, and also the one who set it to the winds.
Whatever the people who wrote that tale - which is fiction far as I can gauge - decided to. Or perhaps nothing at all. Tribal narratives often produce enemies out of thin air, after all.
InChrist
Free4ever
Correct, Jesus never promoted crosses. He promoted forgiveness of sins, salvation, and eternal life which He purchased for humanity with His death on a cross, followed by His resurrection and victory over death, offering new life to all who come to Him. The cross is merely a symbol and reminder, nothing more. Did He have to call Himself God to be God? I cannot fathom anyone other than God having the ability to carry the weight of the sins of the world or to demonstrate power over death.
But God forbid that I should boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world. Galatians 6:14
For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 1 Corinthians 1:18