How are we doing post-Brexit?

[ChristineM]

Well you're not in the UK to experience it first hand are you. We have arrived at the sunlit uplands of our rejuvenated great nation, where opportunity, confidence and optimism are now flourishing. But now those unwelcome foreigners have buggered off, we've got no food on the ******* shelves. Or cat litter.

Actually i feel the shortages to some extent, the british goods shelves at the supermarket are almost empty. Bisto, Custard powder, British teas, brown sauce, typical stuff a brit in france cannot live without are non existent

But cat litter is no problem

 

[ChristineM]

but it will get better.

We are seeing shortages of british goods but no problems for anything else.

And get better?

 

[England my lionheart]

It's not the past we're on about. It's the present. It's today that the local supermarket had no cat litter, not in the past. That is because of a shortage of drivers. That is because of brexit.

Builders today are paying inflated prices for basic hard-to-obtain materials. They will pass this on to their customers. That is because of brexit. The list goes on and on. Only the rich and the racist are happy.

Tell us all what is so "great". Actual practical, physical, real world stuff that is great as a result of brexit (so I'm not asking for vacuous farage BS).

As a builder I’ve never been so busy,the shortages are not just down to brexit,farage means nothing to me,I wanted out on the first referendum,the great and most important thing about brexit is we got out,cat litter?,why worry,cats **** in other peoples gardens

 

[Secret Chief]

Actually i feel the shortages to some extent, the british goods shelves at the supermarket are almost empty. Bisto, Custard powder, British teas, brown sauce, typical stuff a brit in france cannot live without are non existent

But cat litter is no problem

Thing is, at the mo, goods coming into the UK are basically being waved through customs, otherwise we'd probably be having food riots. Imports to France on the other hand are being checked "properly" because they are goods entering an EU country from a non-EU country.

 

[England my lionheart]

We are seeing shortages of british goods but no problems for anything else.

And get better?

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Honestly I’m not seeing it where I live,it will get better,I saw on the news that a toy shop had empty shelves,it supplier is in Germany,do you think they won’t be affected?,it will iron out because it is beneficial for all.

 

[Secret Chief]

As a builder I’ve never been so busy,the shortages are not just down to brexit,farage means nothing to me,I wanted out on the first referendum,the great and most important thing about brexit is we got out,cat litter?,why worry,cats **** in other peoples gardens

Exactly as I thought - the most important thing is we got out, ie no practical benefits.
The builder I know said the shortages have all come because of brexit.
The cat litter is just an example. What when the supermarket shelves have no toilet paper. Why do you think empty food shelves is a good thing? A national supermarket chain having to have regular announcements apologising for empty shelves - is that a good thing? What real life practical things are GREAT because of brexit?

 

[England my lionheart]

Exactly as I thought - the most important thing is we got out, ie no practical benefits.
The builder I know said the shortages have all come because of brexit.
The cat litter is just an example. What when the supermarket shelves have no toilet paper. Why do you think empty food shelves is a good thing?

Wasn’t that what brexit was about?,personally I haven’t seen shortages but of course there will and are problems,this isn’t just our problem it’s the eu too,it will take maybe 2 years but it is so worth it.

 

[Secret Chief]

Wasn’t that what brexit was about?,personally I haven’t seen shortages but of course there will and are problems,this isn’t just our problem it’s the eu too,it will take maybe 2 years but it is so worth it.

Why is it worth it? Practical, real, physical, daily life stuff only please. No brexiter ever seems to be able to reel off a list.

 

[Secret Chief]

Wasn’t that what brexit was about?

Self inflicted problems?

 

[ChristineM]

Honestly I’m not seeing it where I live,it will get better,I saw on the news that a toy shop had empty shelves,it supplier is in Germany,do you think they won’t be affected?,it will iron out because it is beneficial for all.

One toy shop is not going to make much difference to a toy manufacturer who supplies far more than the uk

And i honestly think you are wishful thinking

 

[England my lionheart]

Why is it worth it? Practical, real, physical, daily life stuff only please. No brexiter ever seems to be able to reel off a list.

No list required,we never belonged in the first place,de Gaulle knew it,we were never fully in either so pointless really,it was a good idea in the beginning though.

 

[ChristineM]

No list required,we never belonged in the first place,de Gaulle knew it,we were never fully in either so pointless really,it was a good idea in the beginning though.

So no benefits then, just im all right jack so **** everyone else

 

[England my lionheart]

One toy shop is not going to make much difference to a toy manufacturer who supplies far more than the uk

And i honestly think you are wishful thinking

I’m forward thinking,I don’t actually wish for problems,the toy manufacturer is just an example of how it can impact all of us.

 

[ChristineM]

I’m forward thinking,I don’t actually wish for problems,the toy manufacturer is just an example of how it can impact all of us.

Forward, i don't think so, this will impact on children, grandchildren, great grandchildren.

No wish, sure but you got them as advised pre the vote

Yet it's hardly impacting the manufacture. Europe had a customer base of 700+ million, british not 10% of that. Truly the UK hardly matters despite brits claiming otherwise

 

[England my lionheart]

Forward, i don't think so, this will impact on children, grandchildren, great grandchildren.

No wish, sure but you got them as advised pre the vote

Yet it's hardly impacting the manufacture. Europe had a customer base of 700+ million, british not 10% of that. Truly the UK hardly matters despite brits claiming otherwise

If Britain doesn’t matter why bother mentioning it,in the scope of things brexit is a tiny thing of little importance,the world doesn’t revolve around Brussels,they would wish it does though.

 

[ChristineM]

If Britain doesn’t matter why bother mentioning it,in the scope of things brexit is a tiny thing of little importance,the world doesn’t revolve around Brussels,they would wish it does though.

I mention it because i have family and friends suffering because of brexit.

Europe revolves around Brussels. And the world trades without Europe's 700 million rather than Britain's <70 million

 

[England my lionheart]

I mention it because i have family and friends suffering because of brexit.

Europe revolves around Brussels. And the world trades without Europe's 700 million rather than Britain's <70 million

You can brag numbers and put down Britain as much as you like it doesn’t matter,its your Europe so enjoy whilst it lasts.

 

[Augustus]

Why is it worth it? Practical, real, physical, daily life stuff only please.

Regardless of initial attitude towards Brexit, and ignoring the political nonsense, the consequences of major restructurings of macro-economic, labour market, international trade, economic regulation, etc. are not the kind of things that can be judged in a year or two.

They are the kind of things that take 10-20 years at least to know the consequences of. Even then they depend on numerous decisions yet to be made.

Maybe decline of cheap imported labour leads to improved wages for the less well off members of society. Maybe it leads to stagnation in certain sectors of the economy.

Maybe increased trade barriers leads to a growth in domestic industry, maybe declining exports leads to the contraction of domestic industry.

There are all kinds of things like this that could go either way.

The initial impacts were always going to be negative, but the long term impacts are unknown. Time will tell.

 

[ChristineM]

You can brag numbers and put down Britain as much as you like it doesn’t matter,its your Europe so enjoy whilst it lasts.

Numbers talk

Its also my britain

Oh it'll last, its only the right wing uk press sounding death knolls that don't exist but they've got to appease the great british public.

 

[Secret Chief]

No list required,we never belonged in the first place,de Gaulle knew it,we were never fully in either so pointless really,it was a good idea in the beginning though.

So.... final time of asking....what are the benefits?