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How Are Your Views More Correct Than Another's?

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
Why do you feel you have the right to impose your personal worldview upon another whose views don't align with yours?

Do you know more about pragmatic reality than they do? Why...or how?

I wouldn't say we should "impose". But when we determine we have shared values, I think it's fine to debate how a particular behavior might run counter to our shared values.
 

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Why do you feel you have the right to impose your personal worldview upon another whose views don't align with yours?

Do you know more about pragmatic reality than they do? Why...or how?
Rights are a negative thing that mean other people can't do some thing to you. There is no right to do something to someone else. That is outside the definition of 'Right', but there could be a privilege or an authority. Maybe rephrase the question this way: "Why do you feel you should have the authority/privilege to impose your personal worldview on another...?" unless that doesn't capture what you are asking.
 

TransmutingSoul

One Planet, One People, Please!
Premium Member
Why do you feel you have the right to impose your personal worldview upon another whose views don't align with yours?

Do you know more about pragmatic reality than they do? Why...or how?

I like to consider many do not have their own worldview, though some may see that it is their view. Also some may have modified an all embracing spiritual message with restricted worldly aspects and thus it does take on an aspects of a personal worldview.

I do see many share and all embracing spiritual message.

Regards Tony
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
The only time I have a right to impose my worldview on someone else is when they infringe/attempt to infringe upon my life through their actions.

As a society, we also impose our worldview through democratic means when it comes to what is tolerated in communal space or with communal property or interactions with others.
Now here I would like to say something, about the idea or word 'impose'a view. Some people are let off the judicial hook because a judge "imposes" his view about the person, not necessarily about the guilt. Without naming names, there are some rather well-known, rich and famous personalities that escape judgment that a lesser-known or unfortunate individual might not.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
I don't care what another's beliefs might be, providing they do no physical harm.
Except, of course, when the governmental authorities require some to go to war. I would say physical harm is definitely a possibility. And beliefs do name the game there.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Do you know more about pragmatic reality than they do? Why...or how?
With Covid, most definitely, and the health of others is the valid reason for imposing my views on others.
So, I don't accept this lukewarm "well, their just my views." Sometimes our views are factually correct, and sometimes the stakes are too high to play such a game.
 

amorphous_constellation

Well-Known Member
With Covid, most definitely, and the health of others is the valid reason for imposing my views on others.
So, I don't accept this lukewarm "well, their just my views." Sometimes our views are factually correct, and sometimes the stakes are too high to play such a game.

Well even besides that, we live in a world of problems, right? Who solves all these problems.. individuals who are able to maintain a state of aloof objective disconnection, or those who get into the head of the problem and get muddy, and start trying to elucidate what they decide are solutions and facts. I do don't think it's often an easy call, maybe both kinds of people are needed at times. But I am uncertain if there are really all that many people that undertake the project of forming rock solid views anyway. A lot of people want to be told how to live and what to believe. But in spite of that, I feel like I've never really gotten through to another individual when I was trying to convey something I thought was important.. So I guess I'm not one of the people that other people listen to much. Knowing this lets me put energy elsewhere anyway though
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
I'm pretty sure my views on mathematics are more correct than most other people's views. I'm pretty sure that my understanding of what modern physics claims is more correct than most other people's.

I think that there is such a thing as expertise and that means your ideas are more likely to be correct about that area of expertise than those of other people.

Of cot says nothing at all about areas outside of that expertise. For example, I know next to nothing about Sumerian verbs or about football.

We are all ignorant, just about different things.

Furthermore, my *job* is to 'impose' my viewpoints on other people: as an educator, that is precisely what I am paid to do. I am also paid to evaluate the correctness of the views of others.
Well, some say dark chocolate is good for the heart. Maybe there are minuses to that, too, I don't know. But I like chocolate sometimes in my coffee and think I will make a cup of decaf w/some nice melted (dark) chocolate in it for sweetness and flavor now.
My father had a joke. It's an old one about Communist Russia back in the days. The dictators would tell the people, "We're giving you strawberries and cream," but the people said, "We don't like strawberries and cream." And the dictator would say, "We're giving you strawberries and cream and you're GOING to like it!" (That settles that.)
 

PureX

Veteran Member
It's the "imposing upon" that is problematic. Not our individual views of reality. As the only way to do this is by coercive force. And sadly, there are a significant number of humans that are willing to employ force to gain control of others.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
At this time military service is voluntary in the US.
Of course there are no drafts right now. And it's not just the United States with armies. So when women and non-combatants get hit in any type of military action, that's a shame, right? Kinda like death or harm was imposed on them without their consent. And sometimes in a draft the induction into the army is not something desired by the entrant, but rather the induction was imposed on him. And jail time might be imposed on those not joining combatant duty.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
It's the "imposing upon" that is problematic. Not our individual views of reality. As the only way to do this is by coercive force. And sadly, there are a significant number of humans that are willing to employ force to gain control of others.
Yup.
 

Dawnofhope

Non-Proselytizing Baha'i
Staff member
Premium Member
Why do you feel you have the right to impose your personal worldview upon another whose views don't align with yours?

Do you know more about pragmatic reality than they do? Why...or how?

I have no right to impose my personal worldview on others. It is a matter for governments to decide on the laws we should have and how to enforce those laws. It is my duty and responsibility to respect the laws and values of my country as well as those of my faith.

Sometimes there's a conflict between the values I hold and that of the community I live in. An example is my personal belief that it is not right to have an abortion simply because its inconvenient. How do I respond if a family member wants to have an abortion or a patient? It is legal for a woman to have an abortion in NZ. It's not my role to impose my values on others and to impede access to an abortion once a woman has decided that is what she wants.

I have a view about pragmatic reality that makes the most sense to me. Whose to say if my worldview is better or worse than anyone else's?
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Why do you feel you have the right to impose your personal worldview upon another whose views don't align with yours?
I don't. Every time I debate, I put my own views up thinking they're correct, or sufficient, which exposes them to counter-debate. The most informative times for me have been when I've been asked a question and had to back off and think about the answer. That's how I've learnt a great deal, and the process is ongoing, never reaches finality.
Do you know more about pragmatic reality than they do? Why...or how?
It appears that sometimes I do and sometimes I don't.

When I try to understand statements, my approach tends to analytical first and synthetic second (as is the case with many people, of course). I likewise try to avoid using words which I don't clearly understand, or else to flag when I do, which means I'm usually conscious of the words other people use and whether I understand them or not.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Why do you feel you have the right to impose your personal worldview upon another whose views don't align with yours?

Do you know more about pragmatic reality than they do? Why...or how?

The thread title: How Are Your Views More Correct Than Another's?

First one ,I will answer, is the thread title. They are not more or less correct. They deal with the irrational differently.

About rights: There are no individual rights. Rights are a social construct and as such I can impose "rights" on others by following the given social construct.

The last one is the fun one. Yes, I "know" more about pragmatic reality in general, because I do this as a generalist/skeptic in the Western philosophical tradition, but it in practice it actually means, that I just do cognition differently.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Why do you feel you have the right to impose your personal worldview upon another whose views don't align with yours?
Do you know more about pragmatic reality than they do? Why...or how?
It will be very foolish to think like that.
I know about what is important to me and to the extent it is important to me. I am ready to learn if something new comes up there. I am not a know-all.
I do see many share and all embracing spiritual message.
For real or for show?
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
It will be very foolish to think like that.
I know about what is important to me and to the extent it is important to me. I am ready to learn if something new comes up there. I am not a know-all. ...

You are a know-all in the following sense. You know what everything/reality/the world/the universe really is in a limited metaphysical sense. Be honest about that and state it as it is: You know what reality really is. :)
 
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