Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I don't know what they are.In France there is the expression Français de souche.
I don't think these boys are Français de souche.
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I don't know what they are.In France there is the expression Français de souche.
I don't think these boys are Français de souche.
I believe ethnicity can play a role in the perpetration of crime, don't you? @Debater Slayer
In France there is the expression Français de souche.
I don't think these boys are Français de souche.
That's fine, but I find it interesting information all the same. As I would find their worldview, circumstances, medical and family history, etc. all interesting.I believe that people's circumstances, worldviews, medical history, and family history can all play a role in perpetration of crime, and those factors can (but certainly are not guaranteed to) vary by ethnicity.
I would, however, note the difference between "[insert factor here] can play a role" and an assumption that said factor did play a role in a given crime. Premature conclusions seem to me a way of pouring fuel on the fire and sometimes enabling stereotypes without having much information about a crime.
The first thing that came to mind when I read the news in the linked article in the OP was how alarmingly dangerous antisemitism and other forms of hatred targeting certain religious or ethnic groups are, especially given that, as the article I linked in post #9 points out, such hatred has been increasing in various countries in recent months. The ethnicity of the perpetrators seems to me a far less significant detail than these other issues.
Where I roam about USA, hatred of Muslims & Arabs
is rampant. Hatred of Jews is something I just don't
run across IRL.
Why would you wonder such a thing? If you were to share that you had been raped, the last thing I would ponder would be the ethnicity of the rapist.I wonder what the boys' ethnicity is. But we will probably never know that.
That's fine, but I find it interesting information all the same. As I would find their worldview, circumstances, medical and family history, etc. all interesting.
So what?Any number of things could be interesting, but your go-to question dealt with ethnicity.
Really? I'd be watchful of anything that might further an investigation.Why would you wonder such a thing? If you were to share that you had been raped, the last thing I would ponder would be the ethnicity of the rapist.
I'm going by what people bring up in discussion.I definitely believe you regarding hatred of Muslims and Arabs. When it comes to hatred of Jews/antisemitism, though, I believe that it may well manifest in ways that non-Jews (like you and me) wouldn't readily notice, if at all. From what I've read, antisemitism, along with anti-Muslim hatred, has increased in the US in recent months:
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Islamophobia and antisemitism on rise in US amid Israel-Hamas war
Research shows increase in prejudice and hate as civil rights group condemns ‘unprecedented surge in bigotry’www.theguardian.com
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Antisemitism and safety fears surge among US Jews, survey finds
Nearly two-thirds of American Jews feel less secure in the U.S. than they did a year ago. That’s according to the latest annual survey from the American Jewish Committee.apnews.com
Anti-Muslim incidents jump in US amid Israel-Gaza war
What and why?I wonder what the boys' ethnicity is. But we will probably never know that.
It is very possible.I don't think these boys are Français de souche
Associated Press standards state such details should only be mentioned if it's relevant (unless it's a minor amd then it's less than a few things that can be revealed). Given the attacker could have been anyone I don't see any real reason to publish especially in light of increasing Islamaphobia.I think it would be helpful to know as much as possible, don't you?
Yup. The attacker could have been English or Arabic. Anti-Semitism is increasing along with Islamaphobia (a side note, I wonder if other languages use two separate words like that?), it's common enough it really doesn't matter for this news story if it was a skinhead or Muslim. There is a victim who has suffered horribly and suffered the same regardless. I hope she has the support she needs so she has a chance to heal.The ethnicity of the perpetrators seems to me a far less significant detail than these other issues.
I just want to know as much about the potential perps as possible.Associated Press standards state such details should only be mentioned if it's relevant (unless it's a minor amd then it's less than a few things that can be revealed). Given the attacker could have been anyone I don't see any real reason to publish especially in light of increasing Islamaphobia.
It's not absolutely true. When it deals with a Français de souche, the French media reveal name, surname, nationality and also X-scan.Associated Press standards state such details should only be mentioned if it's relevant (unless it's a minor amd then it's less than a few things that can be revealed). Given the attacker could have been anyone I don't see any real reason to publish especially in light of increasing Islamaphobia.
I don't know much about the situation in France, but I know that it has become worse in most of Europe. One factor is the current Palestine conflict, but we also have a trend of increasing activity from the far right, the recent election for the European Parliament has shown that. And here, the far right is always xenophobic and usually anti-Semitic.How bad has Jew hatred gotten in France? A twelve year old Jewish girl was victimized because she was Jewish.
FTA: Later, lawyer and Jewish leader Elie Korchia said in an interview with French broadcaster BFM that the girl is Jewish and that Palestine was mentioned during the attack. French Prime Minister Gabriel Attal wrote on X, formerly Twitter, that the girl was “raped because she’s Jewish”, identifying it as an antisemitic attack.
2 French boys are accused of raping a 12-year-old Jewish girl in an act of antisemitism
Not in all of Europe. Statistics show that the safest countries for Jews in Europe are Hungary and Italy.I don't know much about the situation in France, but I know that it has become worse in most of Europe.
But accidentally...it's the so called far-right parties that support Israel.One factor is the current Palestine conflict, but we also have a trend of increasing activity from the far right, the recent election for the European Parliament has shown that. And here, the far right is always xenophobic and usually anti-Semitic.