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How Bad Will It Get?

Daemon Sophic

Avatar in flux
Trump is currently winning. Let’s assume he gets re-elected.

He has said that he will be a dictator on day 1.
Trump has always represented hard-core right-wingers, and holds contempt for left-wing ideas/ideals.
He has stated that he will shut down broadcasting networks who disagree with him.
That outspoken comedians, and Democratic political leaders, and outspoken students, etc…. Should be arrested, killed, or thrown out of the USA.

What will he really do?​

- He’s a trickle down economics believer, so he’ll yet again lower taxes on the rich, and give a tiny/short-term bonus to the 99.9% of us, like he did last time.

- He’ll try to appease his voters by yet again doing almost nothing to secure the southern border, while claiming that he is. However, he wants ICE and other law enforcers to be immune from prosecution…..so will shooting of asylum seekers become a reality?

- I doubt he will sic agents (military or otherwise) against political enemies, but there will be a palpable decline in voices being raised against his (and MAGAs) atrocities. I.e. the press will become even more right-wing-biased than it already is. This will allow more disinformation in at least the next two sets of elections.

- That last item will also translate into more women’s rights suppression.

- As he did last time, his mismanagement of the economy will destabilize the stock market, leading to lower bank loaning confidence, leading to more difficulty for small business start-ups, leading to more large corporations growth.

- He will hand the Ukraine over to his pal Putin. Genocide will result,

- He will unleash and fully fund Israel's war throughout the Middle East, perhaps getting the US to aid with our troops. But more likely it will simply result in much more Islamic animosity and an increase in terrorist attacks, both internationally and domestically.

- He will once again willfully ignore (Against all advice) the threat of nuclear weapons from North Korea and Iran, so their programs will shift into overdrive.

What else?​
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
Prolly not as bad as a number of sad countries around the world. Let’s pray for us all shall we?
 

Daemon Sophic

Avatar in flux
Prolly not as bad as a number of sad countries around the world. Let’s pray for us all shall we?
True. Thanks to Biden and Harris, the US economy is vastly better than every other nation on Earth (Ref. The Economist & The Wall Streset Journal). With The Insurrectionist’s plan for massive tariffs, the cost of living will rise sharply, as will the deficit. Which will drive down the power of the dollar. But, some of the Dem. economic strength should remain.
 

The Sum of Awe

Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
Staff member
Premium Member
True. Thanks to Biden and Harris, the US economy is vastly better than every other nation on Earth (Ref. The Economist & The Wall Streset Journal). With The Insurrectionist’s plan for massive tariffs, the cost of living will rise sharply, as will the deficit. Which will drive down the power of the dollar. But, some of the Dem. economic strength should remain.
Do you think this will happen immediately? Or after his term so whoever's next gets blamed for it again?
 

sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Trump is currently winning. Let’s assume he gets re-elected.

He has said that he will be a dictator on day 1.
Trump has always represented hard-core right-wingers, and holds contempt for left-wing ideas/ideals.
He has stated that he will shut down broadcasting networks who disagree with him.
That outspoken comedians, and Democratic political leaders, and outspoken students, etc…. Should be arrested, killed, or thrown out of the USA.

What will he really do?​

- He’s a trickle down economics believer, so he’ll yet again lower taxes on the rich, and give a tiny/short-term bonus to the 99.9% of us, like he did last time.

- He’ll try to appease his voters by yet again doing almost nothing to secure the southern border, while claiming that he is. However, he wants ICE and other law enforcers to be immune from prosecution…..so will shooting of asylum seekers become a reality?

- I doubt he will sic agents (military or otherwise) against political enemies, but there will be a palpable decline in voices being raised against his (and MAGAs) atrocities. I.e. the press will become even more right-wing-biased than it already is. This will allow more disinformation in at least the next two sets of elections.

- That last item will also translate into more women’s rights suppression.

- As he did last time, his mismanagement of the economy will destabilize the stock market, leading to lower bank loaning confidence, leading to more difficulty for small business start-ups, leading to more large corporations growth.

- He will hand the Ukraine over to his pal Putin. Genocide will result,

- He will unleash and fully fund Israel's war throughout the Middle East, perhaps getting the US to aid with our troops. But more likely it will simply result in much more Islamic animosity and an increase in terrorist attacks, both internationally and domestically.

- He will once again willfully ignore (Against all advice) the threat of nuclear weapons from North Korea and Iran, so their programs will shift into overdrive.

What else?​
He will dissolve the NATO most probably and come out of UN?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Trump is currently winning. Let’s assume he gets re-elected.

He has said that he will be a dictator on day 1.
Trump has always represented hard-core right-wingers, and holds contempt for left-wing ideas/ideals.
He has stated that he will shut down broadcasting networks who disagree with him.
That outspoken comedians, and Democratic political leaders, and outspoken students, etc…. Should be arrested, killed, or thrown out of the USA.

What will he really do?​

- He’s a trickle down economics believer, so he’ll yet again lower taxes on the rich, and give a tiny/short-term bonus to the 99.9% of us, like he did last time.

- He’ll try to appease his voters by yet again doing almost nothing to secure the southern border, while claiming that he is. However, he wants ICE and other law enforcers to be immune from prosecution…..so will shooting of asylum seekers become a reality?

- I doubt he will sic agents (military or otherwise) against political enemies, but there will be a palpable decline in voices being raised against his (and MAGAs) atrocities. I.e. the press will become even more right-wing-biased than it already is. This will allow more disinformation in at least the next two sets of elections.

- That last item will also translate into more women’s rights suppression.

- As he did last time, his mismanagement of the economy will destabilize the stock market, leading to lower bank loaning confidence, leading to more difficulty for small business start-ups, leading to more large corporations growth.

- He will hand the Ukraine over to his pal Putin. Genocide will result,

- He will unleash and fully fund Israel's war throughout the Middle East, perhaps getting the US to aid with our troops. But more likely it will simply result in much more Islamic animosity and an increase in terrorist attacks, both internationally and domestically.

- He will once again willfully ignore (Against all advice) the threat of nuclear weapons from North Korea and Iran, so their programs will shift into overdrive.

What else?​
Let's see if you are actually right or just blowing off steam. Personally I want to see life improving, not digressing.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
True. Thanks to Biden and Harris, the US economy is vastly better than every other nation on Earth (Ref. The Economist & The Wall Streset Journal). With The Insurrectionist’s plan for massive tariffs, the cost of living will rise sharply, as will the deficit. Which will drive down the power of the dollar. But, some of the Dem. economic strength should remain.
No it isn't. The economy isn't better. It's worse.

People see it whenever they pay for goods and services.
 

Jayhawker Soule

-- untitled --
Premium Member
My wife and I are both 79 years old; we could be reasonable OK so long as our Social Security and health care are maintained.

Still, with MAGA controlling the Presidency, the Senate, and the House, the U.S. and the planet has just experienced a stunning defeat for which it will pay dearly. It may not find a way to recover.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Trump is currently winning. Let’s assume he gets re-elected.

He has said that he will be a dictator on day 1.
Trump has always represented hard-core right-wingers, and holds contempt for left-wing ideas/ideals.
He has stated that he will shut down broadcasting networks who disagree with him.
That outspoken comedians, and Democratic political leaders, and outspoken students, etc…. Should be arrested, killed, or thrown out of the USA.

What will he really do?​

- He’s a trickle down economics believer, so he’ll yet again lower taxes on the rich, and give a tiny/short-term bonus to the 99.9% of us, like he did last time.

- He’ll try to appease his voters by yet again doing almost nothing to secure the southern border, while claiming that he is. However, he wants ICE and other law enforcers to be immune from prosecution…..so will shooting of asylum seekers become a reality?

- I doubt he will sic agents (military or otherwise) against political enemies, but there will be a palpable decline in voices being raised against his (and MAGAs) atrocities. I.e. the press will become even more right-wing-biased than it already is. This will allow more disinformation in at least the next two sets of elections.

- That last item will also translate into more women’s rights suppression.

- As he did last time, his mismanagement of the economy will destabilize the stock market, leading to lower bank loaning confidence, leading to more difficulty for small business start-ups, leading to more large corporations growth.

- He will hand the Ukraine over to his pal Putin. Genocide will result,

- He will unleash and fully fund Israel's war throughout the Middle East, perhaps getting the US to aid with our troops. But more likely it will simply result in much more Islamic animosity and an increase in terrorist attacks, both internationally and domestically.

- He will once again willfully ignore (Against all advice) the threat of nuclear weapons from North Korea and Iran, so their programs will shift into overdrive.

What else?​
Most of what you listed needs the consent of Congress. Looks like the Republicans will take a majority in the Senate; we still have to see what happens with the House.

Some stuff he can do on his own (or just with the confirmation of the Senate):

- appoint federal judges.

- purge the Justice Department and replace middle to senior management with his loyalists (as he's promised to do).

- pardon himself and other key figures in the coup attempt.
 

sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
My wife and I are both 79 years old; we could be reasonable OK so long as our Social Security and health care are maintained.

Still, with MAGA controlling the Presidency, the Senate, and the House, the U.S. and the planet has just experienced a stunning defeat for which it will pay dearly. It may not find a way to recover.
The expected start date of third world war is now around 2040 (earlier it was 2050).
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
My wife and I are both 79 years old; we could be reasonable OK so long as our Social Security and health care are maintained.
Surely you will still be OK.
I certainly hope so.
Still, with MAGA controlling the Presidency, the Senate, and the House, the U.S. and the planet has just experienced a stunning defeat for which it will pay dearly. It may not find a way to recover.
True.
I think the darkest time at present is for the Ukrainian people and the Palestinian civilians in Israel.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
No it isn't. The economy isn't better. It's worse.

People see it whenever they pay for goods and services.
Prices are up because economic activity is up.

There's more demand for raw materials, so the prices have gone up, which gets passed along as consumer price increases for finished products.

More people are working, so the housing market can bear higher prices.

It sucks when wages don't keep up with inflation, but there are lots of people working now who weren't working during Trump’s first term and lots of people who would have been laid off if things hadn't improved under Biden.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
He will gut the DOJ to keep himself out of prison for his many past crimes.

His new corrupt DOJ will then be used to punish anyone that speaks out against him, and to exonerate anyone committing crimes that serve his desires.

He couldn't care less about the difficulties facing the American people, or people anywhere on Earth, so he will begin gutting the systems of public aid like Social Security and Medicare, and FEMA, and the CDC and so on. And his insane sicophants in office will do all they can to enable this.

And as more citizens then fall into poverty, addiction, and homelessness, he will have them gathered up and disposed of via labor camps, deportation, who knows. And his supporters will be fine with this.

He will end support for Ukraine, and stop supporting NATO, the UN,and Israel. But none of that money will go to support the American people. He and his criminal cronies will steal it all,

Just for starters.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
He will end support for Ukraine, and stop supporting NATO, the UN,and Israel. But none of that money will go to support the American people. He and his criminal cronies will steal it all,
But...what a coincidence...when he was president between 2017 and 2020, no war was started.
He moved the embassy to Jerusalem and there was no war in the Middle East.

Maybe it's because he's very, very good at diplomacy?
 
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