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How can theists/atheists justify racism?

Darkforbid

Well-Known Member
All?

I assume you only cherry picked my post then fed it through narrow blinkers to come up with that statement.

FYI, try googling "racism since brexit", you may learn something

Why would I need too, I've been saying unrestricted migration has been causing massive resentment across the UK since 2006
 

Vidensia

New Member
There is no justification for racism, it is totally unacceptable.:mad: We are all the same under the skin, a white skin is no better than one of colour. I can never understand why some idiots claim to be proud to be white, yet are more than happy to develop a tanned skin!:rolleyes:
There are plenty of ways to justify racism, though you likely won't agree with any of them. Still, some do agree with one or more of those reasons. Furthermore, I find your need to insult people for their views and overall ignorance to be unpleasant.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Typical of remainer label a Brexit support racist



No a lot of anger against free uncontrolled migration is about the real social problem its generating

Uncontrolled? Blame the successive governments for ignoring quotas because it suited their economic projections.

Why blame foreign born and remainers?
 

Darkforbid

Well-Known Member
Uncontrolled? Blame the successive governments for ignoring quotas because it suited their economic projections.

Why blame foreign born and remainers?

Because most don't,, you however are trying to pin racism as a catch all argument
Which "real social problem" is that?

Cheep Labours repression of income

Paying for other nations Bankruptcy

Paying for the economic development of other nations while we are in a state of austerity
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Theists believe all humans are descendants of the first couple, created by God.
According to surveys here in the States, that's not true if taken at the literal level. Most theists here, including most Christian theologians, do believe God created all but did as such through an evolutionary process.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
BTW, when one reads polls/surveys on this, one needs to read the questions very carefully. For example, when Americans are asked "Did God create humans?", or similar type wording, the answer is overwhelmingly "yes". When asked "Do you accept the concept of the evolution?", most also say "yes" but not overwhelming so.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Because most don't,, you however are trying to pin racism as a catch all argument

Dont talk complete hogwash. The statistics are damning and racists will always try to shift the blame for their irrational hatred on everyone but themselves

Other than that your fist sentence deserves nothing but contempt
 

Darkforbid

Well-Known Member
Dont talk complete hogwash. The statistics are damning and racists will always try to shift the blame for their irrational hatred on everyone but themselves

Other than that your fist sentence deserves nothing but contempt

Very like the contempt you show for anything outside your narrow 'I'm always right world view'
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Very like the contempt you show for anything outside your narrow 'I'm always right world view'

Just shows how ignorant you are about me. It is of course what happens when you guess to massage your own sensibilities
 

Vee

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Racism is determined by the people who see it. The person being called a racist doesn't believe it is true. Their anger is justified in their mind or you are seeing things that really aren't there.

True, but they're angry for the wrong reasons. While it's perfectly acceptable to be an grey at someone who did something bad/evil, we shouldn't get angry because that person was born in a certain place or has a particular skin tone. Anger has a place in society, and many times is justified, but being angry at a entire group of people we don't even know based on prejudice is completely insane, and in my opinion, against human nature.
 

Vee

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I will only answer historically since it is not my actual belief system.

Theists have tended to support racism by stating that God has judged some people less worthy (curse of Ham, for example). The judgement of God, then, serves as justification for people to look down on others. This is in a system where people are 'more worthy' or 'less worthy' based on family, not just personal actions.

Humans who want to compare themselves to God. What could possibly go wrong? o_O
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
It easily explains why Caucasian European Empires comfortably colonized the entire world; it also explains why most NBA players or why all NFL cornerbacks are black.
"Them white people are good at conquering but black people are only good at dribbling balls!" is what you're saying.

No, it doesn't since those things aren't due to biological differences. You're just trying to sugar-coat your own racism and veil it with pseudo-academic language.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
True, but they're angry for the wrong reasons. While it's perfectly acceptable to be an grey at someone who did something bad/evil, we shouldn't get angry because that person was born in a certain place or has a particular skin tone. Anger has a place in society, and many times is justified, but being angry at a entire group of people we don't even know based on prejudice is completely insane, and in my opinion, against human nature.

Yeah, but it is very much a part of human nature,
unfortunately.
 
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