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how can we "see" God?

Twilight Hue

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
The only thing that is being shown here is the multitude of thoughts leaking profusely from people's imaginations through an imaginary avatar. That puppet called God.

That's all anybody ever will see for certain.
 
Windwalker

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
cristian_gavrilescu said:
how can we "see" God?
we have any kind of food with any kind of taste. we have any kind of drink with any kind of taste. we have any kind of material to build and make anything we want, the world is the place to be. evolution couldn't do this. bible quote: "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:" (Matthew 7:7). this is not the kingdom of God. believe in the magic soup of darwin (satan), believe in the frog which became a prince, believe in satan. (bad advice). even if you see God, nothing can make you believe that He is God, nothing can make you believe His law, only faith can do that. how did Lord Jesus anticipate His success, the success of christianity? simple, He knows God, and He is the Son of God.
8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. (Revelation 1:8)

illogical atheism:
who made christianity and why? who made the old testament and why? you don't believe in Lord Jesus, so someone lied and made the new testament for an evil reason, according to your opinion. those who lied, they believed in evolution? or other gods? because God and evolution are the only solutions that explain our existence. so there is this possibility, some ancient men believed in evolution but they hid that until darwin bringing to the public, so darwin ruins their plan and you the same, to be liars forever because we die, they can't enjoy of "masterplan", makes perfect sense, the irony. the old testament could be made for the same reason or made by lunatics. again, this makes perfect sense, irony again. in conclusion, darwin was an outlaw, ancient men believed in evolution, or other gods and they lied to us, making us believe in Lord Jesus. perfect sense (irony).
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I just noticed this. Nothing you said above actually tells anyone how they can see God. All I can see is that you disagree with evolution because it conflicts with how you believe. That's not telling us how to see God.

Have you seen God? Describe what that was like? Provide some details.
 
R

rational experiences

Veteran Member
8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. (Revelation 1:8)

The human being says I am being. I live and own form...I live until I die.

The human being human says I own no beginning and my end, is self presence.

I own form and live my existence...I came out of the eternal......why I have no beginning and my end is my owned form....human.

When I own my release from my life, my human self dies...and that is not an end....it is a cause.
 
Nakosis

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
cristian_gavrilescu said:
how can we "see" God?
we have any kind of food with any kind of taste. we have any kind of drink with any kind of taste. we have any kind of material to build and make anything we want, the world is the place to be. evolution couldn't do this. bible quote: "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:" (Matthew 7:7). this is not the kingdom of God. believe in the magic soup of darwin (satan), believe in the frog which became a prince, believe in satan. (bad advice). even if you see God, nothing can make you believe that He is God, nothing can make you believe His law, only faith can do that. how did Lord Jesus anticipate His success, the success of christianity? simple, He knows God, and He is the Son of God.
8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. (Revelation 1:8)

illogical atheism:
who made christianity and why? who made the old testament and why? you don't believe in Lord Jesus, so someone lied and made the new testament for an evil reason, according to your opinion. those who lied, they believed in evolution? or other gods? because God and evolution are the only solutions that explain our existence. so there is this possibility, some ancient men believed in evolution but they hid that until darwin bringing to the public, so darwin ruins their plan and you the same, to be liars forever because we die, they can't enjoy of "masterplan", makes perfect sense, the irony. the old testament could be made for the same reason or made by lunatics. again, this makes perfect sense, irony again. in conclusion, darwin was an outlaw, ancient men believed in evolution, or other gods and they lied to us, making us believe in Lord Jesus. perfect sense (irony).
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I am certain that the people of the Bible believed in God, believed in dreams and visions and experience which supported their beliefs. If one reports the truth of what they believe, does that make them a liar?

Unfortunately, belief does not equal fact. For a belief to be successful, it only has to work well enough to benefit the believer.

Christianity provides hope, equal access to God and equality. Hope/faith can provide very powerful motivation. Equality allows everyone to contribute fully to society. However this would work with or without an existent God.
 
Nakosis

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
9-10ths_Penguin said:
My Dad would say that there's a leprechaun in every bottle of Irish whiskey, but they're usually invisible. The way to see the leprechaun is to drink the entire bottle in one sitting, then look down the neck of the bottle.

Maybe it's like that.
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I'm sure them biblical prophets kept plenty of Irish whiskey on hand. :D
 
U

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
cristian_gavrilescu said:
how can we "see" God?
we have any kind of food with any kind of taste. we have any kind of drink with any kind of taste. we have any kind of material to build and make anything we want, the world is the place to be. evolution couldn't do this. bible quote: "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:" (Matthew 7:7). this is not the kingdom of God. believe in the magic soup of darwin (satan), believe in the frog which became a prince, believe in satan. (bad advice). even if you see God, nothing can make you believe that He is God, nothing can make you believe His law, only faith can do that. how did Lord Jesus anticipate His success, the success of christianity? simple, He knows God, and He is the Son of God.
8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. (Revelation 1:8)

illogical atheism:
who made christianity and why? who made the old testament and why? you don't believe in Lord Jesus, so someone lied and made the new testament for an evil reason, according to your opinion. those who lied, they believed in evolution? or other gods? because God and evolution are the only solutions that explain our existence. so there is this possibility, some ancient men believed in evolution but they hid that until darwin bringing to the public, so darwin ruins their plan and you the same, to be liars forever because we die, they can't enjoy of "masterplan", makes perfect sense, the irony. the old testament could be made for the same reason or made by lunatics. again, this makes perfect sense, irony again. in conclusion, darwin was an outlaw, ancient men believed in evolution, or other gods and they lied to us, making us believe in Lord Jesus. perfect sense (irony).
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I never heard the latter being an atheist position.

If god is everything, creator, and all of that, then can he be described in a way we understand him without reference to the bible and any scripture for that matter?

If god is common sense, what signs should we-all people-use to find him that is not heavily dependent on religion or one's theological views?
 
sojourner

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
cristian_gavrilescu said:
how can we "see" God?
we have any kind of food with any kind of taste. we have any kind of drink with any kind of taste. we have any kind of material to build and make anything we want, the world is the place to be. evolution couldn't do this. bible quote: "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:" (Matthew 7:7). this is not the kingdom of God. believe in the magic soup of darwin (satan), believe in the frog which became a prince, believe in satan. (bad advice). even if you see God, nothing can make you believe that He is God, nothing can make you believe His law, only faith can do that. how did Lord Jesus anticipate His success, the success of christianity? simple, He knows God, and He is the Son of God.
8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. (Revelation 1:8)

illogical atheism:
who made christianity and why? who made the old testament and why? you don't believe in Lord Jesus, so someone lied and made the new testament for an evil reason, according to your opinion. those who lied, they believed in evolution? or other gods? because God and evolution are the only solutions that explain our existence. so there is this possibility, some ancient men believed in evolution but they hid that until darwin bringing to the public, so darwin ruins their plan and you the same, to be liars forever because we die, they can't enjoy of "masterplan", makes perfect sense, the irony. the old testament could be made for the same reason or made by lunatics. again, this makes perfect sense, irony again. in conclusion, darwin was an outlaw, ancient men believed in evolution, or other gods and they lied to us, making us believe in Lord Jesus. perfect sense (irony).
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cristian_gavrilescu said:
how can we "see" God?
we have any kind of food with any kind of taste. we have any kind of drink with any kind of taste. we have any kind of material to build and make anything we want, the world is the place to be. evolution couldn't do this. bible quote: "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:" (Matthew 7:7). this is not the kingdom of God. believe in the magic soup of darwin (satan), believe in the frog which became a prince, believe in satan. (bad advice). even if you see God, nothing can make you believe that He is God, nothing can make you believe His law, only faith can do that. how did Lord Jesus anticipate His success, the success of christianity? simple, He knows God, and He is the Son of God.
8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. (Revelation 1:8)

illogical atheism:
who made christianity and why? who made the old testament and why? you don't believe in Lord Jesus, so someone lied and made the new testament for an evil reason, according to your opinion. those who lied, they believed in evolution? or other gods? because God and evolution are the only solutions that explain our existence. so there is this possibility, some ancient men believed in evolution but they hid that until darwin bringing to the public, so darwin ruins their plan and you the same, to be liars forever because we die, they can't enjoy of "masterplan", makes perfect sense, the irony. the old testament could be made for the same reason or made by lunatics. again, this makes perfect sense, irony again. in conclusion, darwin was an outlaw, ancient men believed in evolution, or other gods and they lied to us, making us believe in Lord Jesus. perfect sense (irony).
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This appears to be a disjointed, poorly-thought out, and rather badly written "anti-evolution theology." It exegetes no texts, it brings forward no facts, it follows no recognized process of thought -- theological or philosophical. Your hermeneutic is unclear at best and nonexistent at worst. It reads like a drunk guy vomiting words onto a page. None of it has much (if anything) to do with the theme "how can we see God." It's difficult to tell what you want to know, what you're arguing, and how you wish the debate to proceed.

I really don't know how to intelligently answer this post, other than what I've already said.
 
Wandering Monk

Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member
sojourner said:
This appears to be a disjointed, poorly-thought out, and rather badly written "anti-evolution theology." It exegetes no texts, it brings forward no facts, it follows no recognized process of thought -- theological or philosophical. Your hermeneutic is unclear at best and nonexistent at worst. It reads like a drunk guy vomiting words onto a page. None of it has much (if anything) to do with the theme "how can we see God." It's difficult to tell what you want to know, what you're arguing, and how you wish the debate to proceed.

I really don't know how to intelligently answer this post, other than what I've already said.
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The more posts I see from this new person, the more I suspect it is actually a chatbot.
 
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