How can you be a True Christian™ if you don't take the Eden story literally?

[dybmh]

Perhaps you were the confused one? You have demonstrated that time and again with my arguments.

You have no arguments. Nothing but whining and worship a void.

so do you think that it would be okay if others called you a "fake Jew"? I am not going to, but I wonder how you would react if someone did that to you.

Go ahead and see if it bothers me. You don't even know your own gods. Why would I care about your opinion about me?

And that ignores all the other stupid stuff you say.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Dude! The fact that what YOU'RE saying is not evidence is the reason that your argument fails.

Incorrect. My argument needed no evidence. The explanation why was given. I even offered a reasonable solution. It was ignored.

What was that you said about not following conversations?

 

[Subduction Zone]

You have no arguments. Nothing but whining and worship a void.



Go ahead and see if it bothers me. You don't even know your own gods. Why would I care about your opinion about me?

And that ignores all the other stupid stuff you say.

Oh my, the champion of whining is projecting again.

But I will not name call.

 

[dybmh]

Perhaps you were the confused one? You have demonstrated that time and again with my arguments.

Also do you think that it would be okay if others called you a "fake Jew"? I am not going to, but I wonder how you would react if someone did that to you.

btw. since your ignorant, i'll have pity on you.

if anyone tries to accuse a person of being a fake-jew, they have automatically shown their ignorance. there is no such thing a s a fake jew.

also, the only people whom I might care about, saying something like would be other jews. as soon as one of them says that, it makes me wonder if they themselves are jewish, maybe they are the one's pretending.

it's beautiful catch-22

not only do i not care about what you and any faux-atheist says about my identity, if any jew says it, its reversed back on them.

And, if thats not enough, I am protected on high by the most powerful force that can ever exist:

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And I will bless those who bless you, and curse him who curses you; and in you shall all families of the earth be blessed.​

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If you don't believe me. come and get me!

 

[dybmh]

Incorrect. My argument needed no evidence. The explanation why was given. I even offered a reasonable solution. It was ignored.

What was that you said about not following conversations?

Hah, typical faux-atheism. you don't know what you're saying. you deny your own words.

 

[Trailblazer]

And that was explained to you countless tines

NO EVIDENCE WAS EVER PRESENTED.
Anyone can say "that was explained to you countless times....."
Would that hold up in any court? No, all courts care about is EVIDENCE.

by many posters

In argumentation theory, an argumentum ad populum (Latin for "appeal to the people") is a fallacious argument that concludes that a proposition is true because many or most people believe it: "If many believe so, it is so."

This type of argument is known by several names,[1] including appeal to the masses, appeal to belief, appeal to the majority, appeal to democracy, appeal to popularity, argument by consensus, consensus fallacy, authority of the many, bandwagon fallacy, Argumentum ad populum - Wikipedia

Your court of law analogy doesn't work because you were "found guilty" a long time ago.

If a vote was taken I would be found innocent because every just person on this forum knows I answer all questions posed to me... and then some!
I never deflect.

Guilty as charged, without even ONE piece of evidence.

 

[dybmh]

Oh my, the champion of whining is projecting again.

Not at all. I have zero complaints. What am I complaining about. Every thing you do proves theism. Every word you type is evidence of your god. I am loving this. I haven't complained at all.

But I will not name call.

Told-ya.

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And I will bless those who bless you, and curse him who curses you; and in you shall all families of the earth be blessed.​

 

[Subduction Zone]

btw. since your ignorant, i'll have pity on you.

if anyone tries to accuse a person of being a fake-jew, they have automatically shown their ignorance. there is no such thing a s a fake jew.

also, the only people whom I might care about, saying something like would be other jews. as soon as one of them says that, it makes me wonder if they themselves are jewish, maybe they are the one's pretending.

it's beautiful catch-22

not only do i not care about what you and any faux-atheist says about my identity, if any jew says it, its reversed back on them.

And, if thats not enough, I am protected on high by the most powerful force that can ever exist:

​

And I will bless those who bless you, and curse him who curses you; and in you shall all families of the earth be blessed.​

​

If you don't believe me. come and get me!

Again, it was merely an example. And I can see that it would bother you. It was merely used to show that what you are doing is wrong.

Though as usual, your "logic" appears to be terribly flawed.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Not at all. I have zero complaints. What am I complaining about. Every thing you do proves theism. Every word you type is evidence of your god. I am loving this. I haven't complained at all.



Told-ya.

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And I will bless those who bless you, and curse him who curses you; and in you shall all families of the earth be blessed.​

You complain in almost every post . You also regularly refute yourself or tell us that you do not understand logic.

 

[CG Didymus]

I reject the claims you and your messenger make about that evidence.

Again, Literal-believing Christians have "evidence" for a young Earth, a 6-day Creation and a world-wide flood. Baha'is don't believe any of that. And I wouldn't be surprised if Baha'is used what most scientist say, that the evidence that the Christians are using is faulty.

It's just another inconsistency among believers that atheists have to deal with. I suggest theists get together and decide what God is so we athesis only have to deal with one set of claims.

Yup, the God the Baha'is believe in is not the same God that some of the other religions believe in. I still like Elijah's method of determining who has the real God and who has some made-up false God. He had the prophets of Baal call to their God to send fire to consume a sacrifice. Nothing happened. But Elijah called on his God and fire did come down and consumed the sacrifice. If any of the God's are real, why can't the followers of that God do something like that? I get the feeling it's because they know that their God won't answer.

It's too easy for them to keep saying are invisible God is real... of course, it's because their Scriptures say so.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Hah, typical faux-atheism. you don't know what you're saying. you deny your own words.

Remember your false accusation of me not following a conversation? You did not follow that one. She was getting back into her old ways and I was merely warning her about it. That was not being used to prove her right or wrong, it was merely advice.

But what was her response? It was merely denial. Now I have shown her in the past how she was guilty of exactly what I said that she was guilty of. But all she had then was more denial And not only have I shown that she argues that way. So have others. If I really wanted to I could quote page after page after page of her doing so with various posters. I simply do not want to do that. I just want her to try to debate properly

My claim was confirmed by others too. That was the compromise that I offered. If I quoted her posts back at her she would merely deny her past actions again. I know that that would be futile.

 

[Subduction Zone]

NO EVIDENCE WAS EVER PRESENTED.
Anyone can say "that was explained to you countless times....."
Would that hold up in any court? No, all courts care about is EVIDENCE.

In argumentation theory, an argumentum ad populum (Latin for "appeal to the people") is a fallacious argument that concludes that a proposition is true because many or most people believe it: "If many believe so, it is so."

This type of argument is known by several names,[1] including appeal to the masses, appeal to belief, appeal to the majority, appeal to democracy, appeal to popularity, argument by consensus, consensus fallacy, authority of the many, bandwagon fallacy, Argumentum ad populum - Wikipedia

If a vote was taken I would be found innocent because every just person on this forum knows I answer all questions posed to me... and then some!
I never deflect.

Guilty as charged, without even ONE piece of evidence.

None was needed for a correction.

It was not a discussion of the topic here. It was merely an aside. A suggestion so that you would debate properly.

Again, your court analogy fails because you were not under trial. You were corrected on this once already. Using the same broken argument is not a refutation.

 

[ppp]

. A suggestion so that you would debate properly.

Or, at the least, with integrity. Alas.

 

[dybmh]

Remember your false accusation of me not following a conversation? You did not follow that one. She was getting back into her old ways and I was merely warning her about it. That was not being used to prove her right or wrong, it was merely advice.

But what was her response? It was merely denial. Now I have shown her in the past how she was guilty of exactly what I said that she was guilty of. But all she had then was more denial And not only have I shown that she argues that way. So have others. If I really wanted to I could quote page after page after page of her doing so with various posters. I simply do not want to do that. I just want her to try to debate properly

My claim was confirmed by others too. That was the compromise that I offered. If I quoted her posts back at her she would merely deny her past actions again. I know that that would be futile.

Their confirmation is nothing more than "hallelujah, Hail Satan." My direct and objective experience of your behavior prohibits any credibility on this. I cannot trust you to be honest in any way.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Their confirmation is nothing more than "hallelujah, Hail Satan." My direct and objective experience of your behavior prohibits any credibility on this. I cannot trust you to be honest in any way.

No, it is support from people that can reason logically and rationally. Something that should exist regardless of religious beliefs.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

You complain in almost every post . You also regularly refute yourself or tell us that you do not understand logic.

I've discovered that, just as in real life, you can't expect someone to debate or act with personal integrity when it's evident that they don't have any. I don't see any purpose in debating with people like that, particularly those who go online and act like that, because there are rarely any consequences for their obnoxious behavior and verbally abusive language. In my experience, people who behave like that online would hardly ever talk to someone like that in person, and I shudder to think about the people who do. To be quite honest, I wouldn't want to know them, let alone be married to someone like that. In fact, I consider such a person to be incredibly toxic, impossible to reason with, and someone who should be shunned. In my opinion, people who act like that are not worth the trouble. And I say that as someone who grew up with verbally abusive parents and an older brother who behaved the same way.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I've discovered that, just as in real life, you can't expect someone to debate or act with personal integrity when it's evident that they don't have any. I don't see any purpose in debating with people like that, particularly those who go online and act like that, because there are rarely any consequences for their obnoxious behavior and verbally abusive language. In my experience, people who behave like that online would hardly ever talk to someone like that in person, and I shudder to think about the people who do. To be quite honest, I wouldn't want to know them, let alone be married to someone like that. In fact, I consider such a person to be incredibly toxic, impossible to reason with, and someone who should be shunned. In my opinion, people who act like that are not worth the trouble. And I say that as someone who grew up with verbally abusive parents and an older brother who behaved the same way.

I do have to admit that sometimes I do it for my entertainment.

Though occasionally I do find a valid thread to debate in. I may have killed @sun rise 's latest thread. But it was a claim that I remembered being shown to be bogus and I think that I have done so.

 

[dybmh]

No, it is support from people that can reason logically and rationally. Something that should exist regardless of religious beliefs.

Nah, it's meaningless. Just the choir. There's no way they're following the barrage of BS you've been slinging all day.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Nah, it's meaningless. Just the choir. There's no way they're following the barrage of BS you've been slinging all day.

Projection again. I saw that in another tread people were pointing out the same errors of yours that I have pointed oujt.

You seem to think that you are more intelligent than others. Have you ever considered trying to use rational arguments supported by evidence? If you opponents can do so then it should be a snap for you.

 

[dybmh]

I've discovered that, just as in real life, you can't expect someone to debate or act with personal integrity when it's evident that they don't have any. I don't see any purpose in debating with people like that, particularly those who go online and act like that, because there are rarely any consequences for their obnoxious behavior and verbally abusive language. In my experience, people who behave like that online would hardly ever talk to someone like that in person, and I shudder to think about the people who do. To be quite honest, I wouldn't want to know them, let alone be married to someone like that. In fact, I consider such a person to be incredibly toxic, impossible to reason with, and someone who should be shunned. In my opinion, people who act like that are not worth the trouble. And I say that as someone who grew up with verbally abusive parents and an older brother who behaved the same way.

If you're trying to insult me, it needs to be true. Otherwise I really don't care about your opinion. I recall your posts. I recall you lied about reading the whole bible and knowing it, but obviously you didn't. And then you made a silly claim about the Attis myth, but botched the date of the version you were referring to 1800 years. But it was only 1800 years ~sarcasm~

I respect that you have shared having had a traumatic experience in your youth and you have written that you begged God and prayed for help and recieved none. But I also think you're just as unfair and biased as any other religious person. And you shield yourself from criticism just as much as any of the others who do it.

My posts are justified. My reactions are justified. I'm not breaking the rules. Those are the simple facts. You have friends, you have a community here, I hope, which supports you. But your comments of me are simply not landing anywhere. They don't effect me. They don't make any impact on me. Those are just the facts.