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how can you explain life without God?

still convinced there is no God???

  • yes

    Votes: 51 87.9%
  • no

    Votes: 7 12.1%

  • Total voters
    58

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Wow. 13 atheists are 'convinced' there is no God and only one other atheist other than me thinks there might be one? And I thought hard atheism went out of fashion... Sigh :facepalm:
Do you assume that everyone who doesn't accept "God did it" as an "explanation" is an atheist?

Why would you assume that if science doesn't currently understand a phenomenon the only other reasonable explanation must be "God did it?" There was a time, after all, when the origins of disease, earthquakes, and the sun coming up were similarly mysterious.

Science isn't trying to deny God. Perhaps you'd be more comfortable thinking of science as an investigation into God's mechanism of action.
 
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methylatedghosts

Can't brain. Has dumb.
so as an atheist you do not believe in God, so how do you explain the universe being made, the earth being formed, and mankind including animals being created???
It begins like this.

"Many billions of years ago, the universe exploded into existence. Bits were formed, and then more bits formed, and then combined to form bits of atoms, and then those bits combined to form atoms. Those atoms combined to form molecules." And so on.

As for the bit before exploding into existence; "I don't know." and the occasional "But I'm thinking on it".
 

839311

Well-Known Member
What does the word convinced mean anyway?

From convinced - definition of convinced by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.:
Adj.
1.convinced - persuaded of; very sure; "were convinced that it would be to their advantage to join"; "I am positive he is lying"; "was confident he would win"
2.convinced - having a strong belief or conviction; "a convinced and fanatical pacifist"

Yes, that is indeed what it means, and means exactly what I thought it meant. Good to know I understand that word, thanks. Whats your point?

I cannot say for sure is God exists, but I from the arguments I have heard for and against the existence of God, the 'against' arguments win for me.

Im getting bored of this. I don't know how many times Ive come across atheists who have simply deluded their minds into a state of confusion. In one moment they will say they are convinced there is no God, or certain that there is no god, or claim that definetly there is no God. But then when challenged on their faith they will crawl beneath the "Oh, I don't really mean that. I mean, there could be a god. I just dont think there is..."

Great. Good for you. Try not to self-inflict too much damage to your brain that way.


Answering no to the question 'Still convienced there is no God?' to me sounds like the 'for' arguments have convienced me.

The 'Do you think God exist'-question isn't really a yes/no question, so the poll is bacically broken.

If you don't like the poll then you dont have to answer it. I think its valid for those people that are in either one position or the other. I mean, for those people that chose to participate in the poll, its not as if they can't read, or unaware of what english words mean. Convinced is what it is, as per your definiton. I fell under the second option, which was perfectly valid for me. The poll, as I understood it, and as I expect other people to have understood it, is an option between hard atheism and weak atheism. I chose weak, 13 other people chose hard. So, what do you expect me to think??
 
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839311

Well-Known Member
Do you assume that everyone who doesn't accept "God did it" as an "explanation" is an atheist?

No... :sarcastic

Why would you assume that if science doesn't currently understand a phenomenon the only other reasonable explanation must be "God did it?"

I said I was an atheist... :sarcastic

Science isn't trying to deny God. Perhaps you'd be more comfortable thinking of science as an investigation into God's mechanism of action.

Perhaps you don't know what planet you are on right now... :sarcastic
 

McBell

Unbound
so as an atheist you do not believe in God, so how do you explain the universe being made, the earth being formed, and mankind including animals being created???
You make far to many assumptions.
Your question ASSUMES the universe was "made".
Your question ASSUMES mankind and animals were "created".

Since I do not agree with your assumed premises, I will not answer the question.
 

lunakilo

Well-Known Member
Yes, that is indeed what it means, and means exactly what I thought it meant. Good to know I understand that word, thanks. Whats your point?
The point is (the part you for some reason cut out of my post:
I cannot say for sure is God exists, but I from the arguments I have heard for and against the existence of God, the 'against' arguments win for me.

Answering no to the question 'Still convienced there is no God?' to me sounds like the 'for' arguments have convienced me.
And the reason for writing the definition of the word convienced was that to me convienced doesn't mean that I am sure, it just means the with my current understanding of how the world is put together I am convienced by the argument that God does not exist.

Im getting bored of this. I don't know how many times Ive come across atheists who have simply deluded their minds into a state of confusion. In one moment they will say they are convinced there is no God, or certain that there is no god, or claim that definetly there is no God. But then when challenged on their faith they will crawl beneath the "Oh, I don't really mean that. I mean, there could be a god. I just dont think there is..."

Great. Good for you. Try not to self-inflict too much damage to your brain that way.
Huh?!

I am no so worried about my brain.

If you don't like the poll then you dont have to answer it. I think its valid for those people that are in either one position or the other. I mean, for those people that chose to participate in the poll, its not as if they can't read, or unaware of what english words mean. Convinced is what it is, as per your definiton. I fell under the second option, which was perfectly valid for me. The poll, as I understood it, and as I expect other people to have understood it, is an option between hard atheism and weak atheism. I chose weak, 13 other people chose hard.
So you answer the poll the way you understand it and I answer it the way I understand it and the result doesn't make sense.

I sounded to me like Student20 intended the question to be about atheism >< theism and not about strong atheism >< weak atheism + everything else.
But people can read the question anyway they want and that is the problem.

So, what do you expect me to think??
Huh?!

Why should I expectyou to think anything in particular?
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
so as an atheist you do not believe in God, so how do you explain the universe being made, the earth being formed, and mankind including animals being created???
Greetings, Student!

I don't explain those things, although I've read much material about them

Note: the poll question could be interpreted different ways. I'm still "convinced" there are no gods, but
this is a speculative position. Since there's no way to disprove the existence of gods, they're possible.
 

McBell

Unbound
so as an atheist you do not believe in God, so how do you explain the universe being made, the earth being formed, and mankind including animals being created???
I don't.
And until such time as you can present credible evidence that the universe was made and humans and animals being created, I do not have to explain it.

In fact, since it is YOUR claim that the universe was made, it is on YOU to show that it was.

Good luck with that.
 

Viker

Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
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