How can you justify the sheer complexity that evolution would have to evolve?

[TagliatelliMonster]

lol, it wasn't? You're saying the Earth was not around before light came to be as it is now?

Correct.

Light is emitted by stars.
The sun is a star.
The earth formed after the sun.

 

[gnostic]

The word day there is used as a concept to signify it was a structure with a beginning and a close, thus each day could be thousands of years.

Except that Genesis 1 specifically say the each day comprised of “evening” and “morning”, not “a thousand years”.

That’s the context clearly stated 6 times, to verses 5, 8, 13, 19, 23 & 31 - the day is “And there was evening and there was morning, the first day.”

There are no 24-hour mentioned, but there are also no mentions that a day being 1 year or 1000 years. To interpret a day being more than cycle of evening and morning, are just dishonest apologetic biblical scholarship.

And being with Jehovah’s Witnesses I am not surprised that this dishonest organisation gives exemptions to their followers to bear false witness.

Is that’s what JW is, YoursTrue? Jehovah’s Witnesses equals “false witness”?

 

[YoursTrue]

Except that Genesis 1 specifically say the each day comprised of “evening” and “morning”, not “a thousand years”.

That’s the context clearly stated 6 times, to verses 5, 8, 13, 19, 23 & 31 - the day is “And there was evening and there was morning, the first day.”

There are no 24-hour mentioned, but there are also no mentions that a day being 1 year or 1000 years. To interpret a day being more than cycle of evening and morning, are just dishonest apologetic biblical scholarship.

And being with Jehovah’s Witnesses I am not surprised that this dishonest organisation gives exemptions to their followers to bear false witness.

Is that’s what JW is, YoursTrue? Jehovah’s Witnesses equals “false witness”?

To say that each creative day had an opening and a close except for the 7th day. Anyway perhaps later ..

 

[YoursTrue]

Correct.

Light is emitted by stars.
The sun is a star.
The earth formed after the sun.

I don't know, maybe it was...

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

I don't know, maybe it was...

It is.

 

[blü 2]

To say that each creative day had an opening and a close except for the 7th day. Anyway perhaps later ..

There is only one allusion to a day being a thousand years in the Tanakh, and there it's unambiguously a poetic usage.

I can think of no reason why the authors of Genesis would have said what they said, in our terms a solar day, if they hadn't intended such a day plain and clear, with the already mentioned specification of a morning and an evening.

Remember that these authors were familiar with the science of their place and time, and they had no concept of the existence or nature of gravity, orbits, satellites, planets, heliocentry, a spherical earth, the nature of stars, deep space, a great many of our present understandings. Instead they thought the sky was a hard dome ─ a 'firmament' ─ that you could walk on, and that the flat earth ─ either like a disk or like a table, both are found ─ was immovably fixed at the center of creation. If you have any doubts about what it says, I set out a list of relevant quotes here >Gravitational waves in Newton theory are 4-th order, in Einstein's are 2-nd!!!<.

Enjoy!

 

[metis]

To say that each creative day had an opening and a close except for the 7th day. Anyway perhaps later ..

In Judaism, the next day starts at sundown the previous day.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

There are 3 billion base pairs in the human genom(a cell) and around 30-40 trillion cells in a human each specialized for a specific function.

There are approximately 86 billions of neurons in the brain.

The eye has a cornea, iris, pupil, lens, retina, optical nerve, macula, fovea, Aqueous Humor, Vitreous Humor, Ciliary Muscles, sclera, Choroid and Conjunctiva to name a few. The eye can distinguish between 10 million colours.

The human gut is home to trillions of microorganisms, collectively known as the gut microbiome.

These are just a few incredible facts about the human body there are hundreds more.

This doesn't even touch on the origins of the first cell, first DNA, first multi cell etc etc

How can you expect anybody to believe that it was random mutations that ultimately created all of this, the complexity is ridiculous and there's no way all these complex organisms could have evolved to work together in harmony as they do?

As they say in Scotland, mony a mickle maks a muckle.

(Many tiny things added together makes a very large thing)

Edit: and it's not just random mutation. It's also natural selection.

 

[Revoltingest]

Let's pick this one....

The eye has a cornea, iris, pupil, lens, retina, optical nerve, macula, fovea, Aqueous Humor, Vitreous Humor, Ciliary Muscles, sclera, Choroid and Conjunctiva to name a few. The eye can distinguish between 10 million colours.

Abiogenesis & evolution had billions of years of opportunity.
The Earth has about 200,000,000 square miles of area.
The depth pf zones supporting life (atmosphere to ocean bottom) is miles.
Chemical reactions that could contribute to either phenomenon would take
up tiny fractions of a cubic millimeter. But they're spread out over the planet's
size & vast history. So the number of opportunities for abiogenesis & steps in
evolution have been enormous....beyond the capacity of my calculator.

If you claim that abiogenesis & evolution are improbable based upon your
cited numbers, you must also consider that improbable things happen
when the trials are many orders of magnitude greater than the claimed
improbability. In short, apply Murphy's Law to life on Earth.

Now, on to the modern human eye.
It didn't just spring into existence.
There were many evolutionary steps preceding it.

Evolution of the eye - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[gnostic]

There are 3 billion base pairs in the human genom(a cell) and around 30-40 trillion cells in a human each specialized for a specific function.

There are approximately 86 billions of neurons in the brain.

The eye has a cornea, iris, pupil, lens, retina, optical nerve, macula, fovea, Aqueous Humor, Vitreous Humor, Ciliary Muscles, sclera, Choroid and Conjunctiva to name a few. The eye can distinguish between 10 million colours.

The human gut is home to trillions of microorganisms, collectively known as the gut microbiome.

These are just a few incredible facts about the human body there are hundreds more.

This doesn't even touch on the origins of the first cell, first DNA, first multi cell etc etc

How can you expect anybody to believe that it was random mutations that ultimately created all of this, the complexity is ridiculous and there's no way all these complex organisms could have evolved to work together in harmony as they do?

So you are expecting us to accept superstitions (eg "God did it") and the supernatural (eg miracles) over scientific studies?

Mutations may played some parts in the evolution of the eyes, but I think it is more to do with Natural Selection.

There are sea creatures at the bottom of the deepest ocean trenches, and because light don't reach that depth, selective pressures on these, wondrous creatures to live without needing the eyes. That's Natural Selection, not Mutations, wordy80.

The only thing that truly matter in biology, is being able to reproduce, and being able to sustain life & growth by acquiring energy through some means.

For example, plants use light to convert water & carbon dioxide into starch (carbohydrates, energy sources) & oxygen, through process known as photosynthesis. The plants have no nerves, hence have no brains, nor have need for eyes.

As wondrous as the eyes are, they are not use for energy to sustain life or to sustain growth, nor can the eyes themselves cause reproduction.

And eyes only applied to some animals, but not for others. But what about the plants, fungi, bacteria, archaea, etc, none of these required eyes for their lives.

And if we focused on animals, only vertebrates have central nervous systems, which include a brain and a spinal cord. Invertebrates have various different types of nervous systems. One of the most simplest nervous system, are actually quite primitive, called nerve net.

Look up nerve nets.