Sure, try it yourself with the cladogram in post #1281. Trace the human back to the ancestral tetrapod. Do you find a bird, whale, or lizard?She would?
Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.
Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!
Sure, try it yourself with the cladogram in post #1281. Trace the human back to the ancestral tetrapod. Do you find a bird, whale, or lizard?She would?
Then you're either not understanding the science or not examining the right information. Those actually familiar with the information believe in evolution and LUCA.The idea of one LUCA for all life on earth to have emerged (evolved) from then mutations or whatever borders on the fantastical. That's how I look at it now the more I examine what science says about evolution.
I think we need to stay tuned, as new information on this topic is coming in every day. Just yesterday I was reading an article of how mathematicians are calculating how many random numbers you have to have before patterns begin showing up. I even read that some scientists are proposing a new Law of Nature to explain how the universe seems to evolve to more complicated forms, not just with life, but with all systems.There are 3 billion base pairs in the human genom(a cell) and around 30-40 trillion cells in a human each specialized for a specific function.
There are approximately 86 billions of neurons in the brain.
The eye has a cornea, iris, pupil, lens, retina, optical nerve, macula, fovea, Aqueous Humor, Vitreous Humor, Ciliary Muscles, sclera, Choroid and Conjunctiva to name a few. The eye can distinguish between 10 million colours.
The human gut is home to trillions of microorganisms, collectively known as the gut microbiome.
These are just a few incredible facts about the human body there are hundreds more.
This doesn't even touch on the origins of the first cell, first DNA, first multi cell etc etc
How can you expect anybody to believe that it was random mutations that ultimately created all of this, the complexity is ridiculous and there's no way all these complex organisms could have evolved to work together in harmony as they do?
Your silly argument from incredulity / awe is noted.The idea of one LUCA for all life on earth to have emerged (evolved) from then mutations or whatever borders on the fantastical. That's how I look at it now the more I examine what science says about evolution.
What we humans observe around us is based on so many billions of billions of billions of details that during the time of the entire universe's existence they could not have produced themselves.It's important to recognize that the complexity seen in biological systems does not arise instantaneously, but through the accumulation and retention of small changes over profound expanses of time. While the ultimate origins of all biological complexity are still being studied and researched, evolutionary theory provides an empirically supported framework for understanding the development of life's complexity.
But while it may be "obvious" to you, it is certainly not "obvious" to many others.What we humans observe around us is based on so many billions of billions of billions of details that during the time of the entire universe's existence they could not have produced themselves.
I am not going to do any calculations, it is so obvious that it is not even necessary.
Yes we know you have your propaganda that sounds good to you, the actual study of biology says otherwise.Check this article about the ability of cells to specialize
How much time do you think it could take to all kind of cells to "learn" how to do that?
PD: Don't hesitate on reading/watching the articles and videos down there, in the series WAS IT DESIGNED? ... and get the point.
So what do DNA similarities mean?There truly is nothing beyond conjecture to conclude that DNA similarities mean evolution.
um...So what do DNA similarities mean?
Worse, he plagiarized and just fiddled some unimportant bits to see if he could get past the proctors.um...
Lazy creator?
What we humans observe around us is based on so many billions of billions of billions of details that during the time of the entire universe's existence they could not have produced themselves.
I am not going to do any calculations, it is so obvious that it is not even necessary.
Demanding a calculation of how long an autonomous universe would need to generate by itself everything we observe today is just an excuse for not accepting the obvious: that is absolutely impossible.
The fossil record does not even support the theory of slow change.
Think for example of how many systems any living organism has, even the simplest cell. Just imagine how something comes into existence without having already completed the existence of everything that it requires for it to be produced.
For example: what needs to come into existence first to have a simple loaf of bread.
Can you make a loaf of bread without having got flour? Can you have flour if someone doesn't grind the grain? Can there be grain if plants don't produce fruit? Can a plant produce fruit without having sprouted from a seed? Can there be a seed without a previous plant? Can a plant grow without water or soil? Can there be water if it doesn't rain? Can there be rain if there are no oceans? Can a grain plant be planted in the sea?
The simple fact that humans take for granted that there are plants and water and thousands of other things that are already complete in themselves makes people forget that each of these things could not have existed without others that kept them in existence. Imagine how long it would take for everything that exists to come to have everything that resulted in its existence.
There is not enough time in the universe for that.
Why?There must have been something else, like direction, control, intelligence.
I need evidence to support that. Your arguments from awe / complexity / incredulity / ignorance are not convincing.Do you really need a calculation to understand that?