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I would be interested in seeing you back it up with some actual evidence showing how other religions have no logic to them. But that would probably be a different thread, should you choose to take me up on my inquiry.
sorry, to clarify, i meant christian religions.
and i think that would be pointless with you, no offense, but why would you listen to what i said about the illogical bible anymore than what the next guy said about it?
(truly mean no offense by comment, correct me if im wrong)
There is nothing logical about miracle stories, though they may be instructive in other ways.
neither is the big bang theory/miracle....different word for something just as impossible and miraclulous. or at least that you can prove, just like me and the bible.
Science rests on axioms, that is true. But its conclusions are falsifiable in the strictest sense, which presents quite a chasm between science and metaphysics.
And no, clearly people do not have to believe a higher being started everything about you. There are a number of atheists who function rather well without such an assumption.
any athiest who doesnt believe in some kind of beginning is in denial. not unless you believe that the blackness of the universe came from nowhere, and before that whatever existed came from nowhere also. It takes
faith to believe in the kinds of theories of science that exist today, Faith in the men who are doing the experiments, unless you yourself have extensively researched and done your own studies.
a. Which creation story? There are 2 different ones in the Bible alone.
b. Scientific theories are based on interpretations of observable evidence. Biblical stories of creation are not.
c. Scientific theoies can be (and are) overturned when new evidence is brought to light. The same cannot be said of Biblical stories, at least not until someone invents time travel.
youll have to enlighten me on #a.
#b.observing one thing does not necesarily proof anything else. watching the apple fall to the earth only proves that things fall. all else is a theory/guess, it may be educated but it still holds not absolute truth i.e. it requires faith to believe in the scientists(men) who do the observing.
#c.true, i have
faith in the bible, something that has stood the time of many generations.(i know that one is going to cause some remarks
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but you put your
faith in other men, with other books, who tell you something that you know could very likely, yes likely to be wrong.....dating of the earth uses methods that can so easily be altered by the earth and the men doing the testing very easily. argon dating is one of the more common and easily altered testing methods out there.
Science is interested in "how" not "why."
umm?? why did the apple fall from the tree? im sorry the scientists that ive talked to only seem to use how instead of why because they dont want to admit that they too are searching for answers of why everything.
That you have confused the purpose of science ("how") with the purpose of religion ("why") is, very sorry, your problem for you to tackle.
Not if you believe in the bible, then it is the why and the how.
In the end i can believe in a God, you can believe in other mens theories(unless you do your own testing).
but if im right then good for me if God looks down on me with gladness,
if your right then all i did was be a good person to my fellow man all my life, and i was crazy but nothing bad happens to me when i die.
on the alternative if you spend your whole life shunning God(idea that he exists) then that can actually go against you when you die.
Im not guaranteed a reward after i die, but at least im not taking the chance of being punished either.
oh hey, a little thought for you. In the bible God created, beast and man, and the plants of the earth with an age. meaning nothing was created in its 'baby'/'seedling' form. so if that is true then how old were the rocks that God put on the earth?
one more question, how do you explain the rock granite on the earth?
foa
