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buddhist

buddhist

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Useless2015 said:
Than why do thousands of muslim children get haunted and killed by Buddhist monks????? Buddhism is maybe the worst religion out of all and i am including satanism.
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Those "monks" are not authentic Buddhists in my view. They do not follow the early Buddhist texts as I understand them, e.g.:

The first precept: I undertake the training rule to refrain from taking life. (Khp 2)
A monk who has been accepted should not deprive a living being of life, even if it is only a black or white ant. Any monk who purposely deprives a human being of life, even to the extent of causing an abortion, is not a contemplative, not a son of the Sakyan. (Mv I.78.2)​
 
Twilight Hue

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
ak.yonathan said:
Right, however Buddhism goes against human nature, at least instinctively. What about those people who have yet to know of Buddhism? Are they doomed? Seems to me like the way to make everyone happy is to install the opposite of Buddhism in reality.
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Actually Buddhism dosent work with expectations and ideals. It's simple abiding by which one observes and realises via our natural ability to garner insight through various experiences.

I'm sure there are many who haven't ever practiced Buddhism a day in their lives, yet can be accomplished Buddhists without even knowing or experiencing the religion.

Incidently, if one dosent include the opposite as you mention, It's not a very good way to practice Buddhism effectively.

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ak.yonathan

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buddhist said:
What is "instinctive human nature"? With your argument, it seems you'd be advocating that babies and children should not be trained to grow beyond their instictive behaviors to become adults?

Buddhism is not a set of tenets or doctrines to believe in - it is to be practiced. The observations made and taught by Lord Buddha were keen and precise observations made of the laws of reality. There is no crisis if someone doesn't hear about or read the scriptures of "Buddhism"; they would only need open eyes to perceive and understand the laws of reality immanent around them. Obeying those laws is equivalent to following Buddhism.
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Instinctive human nature always wants to act selfishly and thinking that that is the way to succeed in life. If people don't know about Buddhism, then they will not follow its teachings, because like I said it goes against their basic instincts. It doesn't matter that it is not something to believe in, but it is something to practice. So again I ask, are they doomed?
 
Etritonakin

Etritonakin

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Jaiket said:
I don't have the answer, clearly, but I like to think about it.

Does anyone here believe that if everyone followed their religion we would have better lives?
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The latter commandments are a good place to start, and are a basis for loving one's neighbor -and loving God beginning with the first few commandments leads to eternal peace and happiness for all.

Forgiveness and overlooking wrongs is definitely also necessary to keep generations of hate from continuing into the future.

Due to many factors, however, mankind is incapable of universal and lasting peace -especially as men live just long enough to get the general idea -and then die.

God gave men many opportunities in the past -mostly so that it could not be said that he did not -as he knew successive generations of new creative beings would not yet be ready to accept his instruction. Therefore, he allowed us to experience this reality individually -and eventually will allow us to nearly bring about the end of our ways -which would be our complete self-destruction if not prevented.
That will all serve as evidence of the necessity of the government of God -whereas we were once all individually and collectively new and ignorant.
At that point -when it will be accepted -God will begin to govern Earth directly -those who were "in Christ" will serve under him -and all who have ever lived since Adam will be resurrected, purified and given an opportunity to live forever.

Micah 4:3 And he shall judge among many people, and rebuke strong nations afar off; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up a sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.
 
buddhist

buddhist

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ak.yonathan said:
Instinctive human nature always wants to act selfishly and thinking that that is the way to succeed in life. If people don't know about Buddhism, then they will not follow its teachings, because like I said it goes against their basic instincts. It doesn't matter that it is not something to believe in, but it is something to practice. So again I ask, are they doomed?
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Yes. Those who do nothing but give in to their basest desires are destined to be reborn in the animal, ghost, or hellish realms. The majority of humans are not destined for the heavenly realms, according to early Buddhism.
 
Sleeppy

Sleeppy

Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
Very simple. Invest conctertedly in technological means of production. Distribute. No more profits. No more long work weeks.
 
SpeaksForTheTrees

SpeaksForTheTrees

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The Ardent Atheist said:
No, but if you want to increase the percentage of happy people, just shoot the sad people.
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Nice philosophy if you want to get rid of the athiest ?
Round y'all up in a few days if we wanted.
Being Glib about things is not happiness is compromised line of thought.
Biased
Unhealthy
Self destructive
All the wrongs reasons to be athiest imho
 
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limitedyoke

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I have not read the Qur'an but from the bible I would say no, the mass murdering and stoning that would be happening would scare most Christians away from being christian and that in of itself regardless of how much I agree or disagree with Christianity is not ok
 
Sleeppy

Sleeppy

Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
buddhist said:
How does that solve anything?
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Cultivating peaceful human natures requires sustenance foremost. Time is always our most precious commodity. When we're able to produce human necessities for everyone, a part from the competition that capitalist systems provide, and put social life (education, entertainment, medication, etc) in the forefront, peace will reign.
 
Demonslayer

Demonslayer

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Sleeppy said:
Cultivating peaceful human natures requires sustenance foremost. Time is always our most precious commodity. When we're able to produce human necessities for everyone, a part from the competition that capitalist systems provide, and put social life (education, entertainment, medication, etc) in the forefront, peace will reign.
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Completely unattainable, sadly, because for the most part I agree with this idea.

I remember thinking when I was a kid that life would be easy once we had robots to do all the work. I envisioned a life where people would have to work half as much. And the truth is we have fewer and fewer jobs these days that need old fashioned manpower. Yet just to keep your job today most people have to work 10-14 hour days.

We're working harder, not smarter, as they say. It's less about capitalism though, which some people will blame, and more about greed. As long as there are people who will take and take and take, everyone else will need to fight for their fair share.
 
buddhist

buddhist

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Sleeppy said:
Cultivating peaceful human natures requires sustenance foremost. Time is always our most precious commodity. When we're able to produce human necessities for everyone, a part from the competition that capitalist systems provide, and put social life (education, entertainment, medication, etc) in the forefront, peace will reign.
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Having been provided the basic necessities, does that automatically eliminate humans' inherent desires for greed, regarding non-basic necessities?
 
buddhist

buddhist

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Demonslayer said:
Completely unattainable, sadly, because for the most part I agree with this idea.

I remember thinking when I was a kid that life would be easy once we had robots to do all the work. I envisioned a life where people would have to work half as much. And the truth is we have fewer and fewer jobs these days that need old fashioned manpower. Yet just to keep your job today most people have to work 10-14 hour days.

We're working harder, not smarter, as they say. It's less about capitalism though, which some people will blame, and more about greed. As long as there are people who will take and take and take, everyone else will need to fight for their fair share.
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The 10% who own the robots hoard the benefits of their efficiency for themselves, instead of sharing the wealth with the public. This leaves less people employed (those who have skills that have not been automated yet), and the rest are left unemployed.

Eventually, as robotics and computing advances even further, more of those currently employed will join the ranks of the unemployed, leaving even more people in misery.
 
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