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how do you feel when threatened with Hell?

Dan From Smithville

He who controls the spice controls the universe.
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I wish we had more prairies...

The wind over a cornfield makes me angry. Shouldn't, but it does.

Luckily, I'm in a city.
I'm not so angry by them, but I would like more prairie. Lots of things that call that home that aren't so common anymore.

I find cornfields to evoke many varied feelings. On one hand they are a living wall of green growth friendly and forever seeming and the on the other mysterious and foreboding. I find it interesting that cornfields have been used so frequently as settings for scary TV shows and movies. Twilight Zone, Children of the Corn and Signs for instance. They certainly stoke the emotions.

I don't think I've been to any of the cities in Iowa. Small towns, but no cities. I think like a lot of people, my thoughts are immediately of farms and cornfields when I think o Iowa. Like I used to think only of New York City when thinking of New York, but that state has a lot more than just city.

Stay warm. I'm guessing that winter may continue to be different than it was in the past, but I don't think it is done with the Midwest either.
 

JustGeorge

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I'm not so angry by them, but I would like more prairie. Lots of things that call that home that aren't so common anymore.

I find cornfields to evoke many varied feelings. On one hand they are a living wall of green growth friendly and forever seeming and the on the other mysterious and foreboding. I find it interesting that cornfields have been used so frequently as settings for scary TV shows and movies. Twilight Zone, Children of the Corn and Signs for instance. They certainly stoke the emotions.

I don't think I've been to any of the cities in Iowa. Small towns, but no cities. I think like a lot of people, my thoughts are immediately of farms and cornfields when I think o Iowa. Like I used to think only of New York City when thinking of New York, but that state has a lot more than just city.

Stay warm. I'm guessing that winter may continue to be different than it was in the past, but I don't think it is done with the Midwest either.
Its still quite cold here.

I dislike the fields... most of our corn goes to ethanol, so I can't look out and imagine we're feeding hungry tummies... just shredding up the land.

Iowa cities can be pretty shabby. There's a few nice ones... mine isn't one of them.
 

Dan From Smithville

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Yeah, there's enough stress involving real things in life, much less than that of contrived flights of fancy.
It may be that the metaphor was written to direct us on the real negative consequences of how we deal with those stresses. A tale of warning to guide us to better, wiser behavior that has been turned into a real place by the minds of some set to convince others by fear only.
 

Dan From Smithville

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Its still quite cold here.
It's getting cold here, but we have hills and woods in many places that help along with differences in latitudes. All those combined may influence attitudes through their variation in altitude. But I may only be repeating platitudes.

I've already apologized to others for waxing poetic, but I'm feeling unusual this evening.
I dislike the fields... most of our corn goes to ethanol, so I can't look out and imagine we're feeding hungry tummies... just shredding up the land.
And most of those tummies are in cows.
Iowa cities can be pretty shabby. There's a few nice ones... mine isn't one of them.
I've no reference to agree or disagree, but many of the small towns I have seen have been nice even a few quaintly anachronistic. I'm sure that your city is improved by your presence more than you are cultivated by its.
 

JustGeorge

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It's getting cold here, but we have hills and woods in many places that help along with differences in latitudes. All those combined may influence attitudes through their variation in altitude. But I may only be repeating platitudes.

I've already apologized to others for waxing poetic, but I'm feeling unusual this evening.
I feel unusual every evening.
And most of those tummies are in cows.
Some, yes. That would be the second most common use for our corn.
I've no reference to agree or disagree, but many of the small towns I have seen have been nice even a few quaintly anachronistic. I'm sure that your city is improved by your presence more than you are cultivated by its.
Some of the towns are real cute. Some are like ghost towns.

My city... well, it produces characters.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
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How do you feel when people threaten you with Hell?

For me it brings about an enormous sense of superiority

I think it's supposed to scare me

It really doesn't
It is supposed to scare you. It is a threat levelled by people who have been frightened by it themselves.

For that reason, I always feel as if the individual levelling that threat at me is expressing their own wish that harm come to me, and while I'm not frightened myself, I find it repugnant as an expression of desire for violence against me -- for my opinions!

Funny, I'm just remembering the old TV sitcom "Maude," in which the title character, when angry with her husband, was wont to say "God'll get you for that Walter!" How like every human who believes in God tends to believe, at the same time, that God favours them over others.
 

LuisDantas

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How do you feel when people threaten you with Hell?

For me it brings about an enormous sense of superiority

I think it's supposed to scare me

It really doesn't
Same here.

It is a bit odd and probably unduly empowering to realize that there are people who take their own theology with so little respect.
 

Dan From Smithville

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I feel unusual every evening.
So, I'm presuming and preaching to a more experienced choir. Not the first time that has happened, but I'm getting better.
Some, yes. That would be the second most common use for our corn.
I have been out of the cornfield for far longer than I realized and didn't know that ethanol production had risen to greater demand than cattle.

On the upside, it is a more sustainable energy source that burns clean. I'm not sure if that is much solace to cover the loss of the prairies.
Some of the towns are real cute. Some are like ghost towns.
One of the scientists on my graduate committee was from a little town in Missouri called Frankenstein. I'm not sure that there is much there beyond the rather interesting name. There are a number of such small, almost nonexistent communities in Missouri too. One of my great aunts lived in Shamrock and my father was born in Mineola. A few run down houses close together and colorful names are about all that remain to mark the passing.
My city... well, it produces characters.
Sometimes there is value in that. It depends on the direction the characters take.

We used to be home to a man that was known by the moniker Baton Bob. His therapist told him to do something that made him happy, so he got a baton and flashy, sequin outfits and would twirl along a major highway for the commuter traffic. Another was one that I actually saw driving around one day. A man known as the South County Jesus who dresses like Christ and wonders along the streets attending different churches as his means of discipleship. Interesting characters that to my mind add spark to the diversity of the community.
 

PureX

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How do you feel when people threaten you with Hell?

For me it brings about an enormous sense of superiority

I think it's supposed to scare me

It really doesn't
I am fortunate in that I am not around those kinds of folks, but honestly I'm not really effected by it one way or another. I long ago determined what I thought about the whole 'hell' possibility and it's just not something I take seriously. And my feelings toward those who do take it seriously is that I feel a kind of sad compassion for them. As I would not want to have to live with that sort sword always hanging over my head. Or over anyone else's, either.
 

JustGeorge

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So, I'm presuming and preaching to a more experienced choir. Not the first time that has happened, but I'm getting better.

I have been out of the cornfield for far longer than I realized and didn't know that ethanol production had risen to greater demand than cattle.
Probably depends on where you are, but here, it is so.
On the upside, it is a more sustainable energy source that burns clean. I'm not sure if that is much solace to cover the loss of the prairies.
Its true, but no, its not helped me deal wth being upset about prairie loss.
One of the scientists on my graduate committee was from a little town in Missouri called Frankenstein. I'm not sure that there is much there beyond the rather interesting name. There are a number of such small, almost nonexistent communities in Missouri too. One of my great aunts lived in Shamrock and my father was born in Mineola. A few run down houses close together and colorful names are about all that remain to mark the passing.
I don't know a lot about Missouri other than the culture is more 'southern' than Iowa(more so the further south you go, unsurprisingly).
Sometimes there is value in that. It depends on the direction the characters take.

We used to be home to a man that was known by the moniker Baton Bob. His therapist told him to do something that made him happy, so he got a baton and flashy, sequin outfits and would twirl along a major highway for the commuter traffic. Another was one that I actually saw driving around one day. A man known as the South County Jesus who dresses like Christ and wonders along the streets attending different churches as his means of discipleship. Interesting characters that to my mind add spark to the diversity of the community.
I think Bob would have been fun.
 

Dan From Smithville

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Probably depends on where you are, but here, it is so.
I would think so at first blush. Overall, it appears that corn production for ethanol has increased 18X since I started working with the crop, but demand seems to have flattened out to hold steady at a bout a third of total annual production. Of course, that is region wide through the Corn Belt and not necessarily Iowa. Learn something new every day.
Its true, but no, its not helped me deal wth being upset about prairie loss.
I tried, but I understand too. I would say that it pales in comparison to what has been lost in some regards. No more buffalo for instance, though that seems like something that people wouldn't tolerate in those numbers anyway. So perhaps a poor example to look to.
I don't know a lot about Missouri other than the culture is more 'southern' than Iowa(more so the further south you go, unsurprisingly).
The Ozarks certainly was heavily settled out of the South, especially Kentucky and Tennessee. I'm not sure about the rest of the state, except the Bootheel that is, for all intents and purposes, the South. We are becoming or have become a Red state. Largely driven by the rural population and marking a disparity of that with the increasingly more populated urban areas.
I think Bob would have been fun.
He was a man doing what he enjoyed while adding a positive flavor to the community. I have friends that knew him when he still lived here.

The first time I saw the South County Jesus, I thought he was dressed up to be Gandalf. Another person doing what makes them happy without harming anyone.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
How do you feel when people threaten you with Hell?

For me it brings about an enormous sense of superiority

I think it's supposed to scare me

It really doesn't
Mostly I don't worry about it. I serve God every day, so whatever afterlife there may be will take care of itself.

I do find it incredibly arrogant that some people seem to think they know who is going to hell.
 

JustGeorge

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I would think so at first blush. Overall, it appears that corn production for ethanol has increased 18X since I started working with the crop, but demand seems to have flattened out to hold steady at a bout a third of total annual production. Of course, that is region wide through the Corn Belt and not necessarily Iowa. Learn something new every day.

I tried, but I understand too. I would say that it pales in comparison to what has been lost in some regards. No more buffalo for instance, though that seems like something that people wouldn't tolerate in those numbers anyway. So perhaps a poor example to look to.
Buffalo would be fun! :D
The Ozarks certainly was heavily settled out of the South, especially Kentucky and Tennessee. I'm not sure about the rest of the state, except the Bootheel that is, for all intents and purposes, the South. We are becoming or have become a Red state. Largely driven by the rural population and marking a disparity of that with the increasingly more populated urban areas.

He was a man doing what he enjoyed while adding a positive flavor to the community. I have friends that knew him when he still lived here.

The first time I saw the South County Jesus, I thought he was dressed up to be Gandalf. Another person doing what makes them happy without harming anyone.
I wish more people could manage such! :D
 

Dan From Smithville

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Buffalo would be fun! :D
We have a park here that has a small herd as well as elk. It is a treat to drive through and find them somewhere they are viewable. From a distance. They might be less fun up close and thundering past in historic numbers. Like the people of my beloved Ozarks, it's all relative.
I wish more people could manage such! :D
I do too. I'm trying, but right now, I'm finding it difficult. No baton twirling or public impersonations. Something a little more spiritual and something that involves my own personal passions. Mostly about bugs.
 
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