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How do you know God is morally perfect and righteous?

interminable

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But how do you verify any of this without resorting to religious books???? How do you know your god is not lying? What do you have besides his own supposed words? Are you so intelligent that such a being could not deceive you???????
Imagine a king that is all power and u know he is a liar so what can u do to escape his punishment even u know he is corrupt????

I just imagined that but in actuality I explained in my previous posts about this
A person that is all power doesn't need to lie because there is no motivation for him to do so.
We tell lie because of our imperfections.

Everything is clear just pay attention to those doubts that common people do.
 

interminable

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It's very interesting to know why God should tell lie and deceive us while he is omnipotent all power
Is it sensible???

Besides who are we that God may lie to us???
Does he fear from us?


Please a little deep reflection will solve everything
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
How do you know God is morally perfect and righteous?

Logically, you do not.

It is the other way around. You define a God as a manifestation of an ideal or virtue, then you work from there and define the consequences.
 

habiru

Active Member
I don't understand what those quotes are supposed to explain. the underlying question is "How would you know if an all powerful, all knowing being was lying to you?" How would you to be able to know his ultimate reasons for doing or saying anything? Do you believe you are so intelligent that such a being cannot possible outsmart you?

The quotes explains that God doesn't hold onto any animosity for so long, because He see us as little ones that are unable to be like Him all the time. And let's use Zuess for an example. If Zuess were a god, then how come he need to have a child to be abducted, so that this child can be his sex slave. If he were the almighty, and so then why doesn't he just created a child to be his sex slave? But then, why would an ultimate powerful being let his urges take over them? But by reading this story, that we all know where this story has derived from. From someone who has the most intimate desires for little boys. As the scriptures says, "that you will recognize them by their fruits.
A friend of mines that has a very high testosterone level. He is very big and strong. But one thing about him,it is that he does lies at all. He thinks that it is a sign of weakness, and that only little boys tells lies. He just says whatever what is on his mind, without caring what the next person thinks. He is powerful, but not that powerful enough to take on the world. But it shows how someone that very powerful thinks. And when you read the Biblical scriptures, it shows that God is very powerful, even to the extreme that he doesn't let His emotions like His anger to take over Him. That it shows that He has self-control in order to belittle Himself for something that He has created..
 

Ben Avraham

Well-Known Member
How do I Know God is Morally Perfect and Righteous!

Well! Because He is God for one; then, to be imperfect and unrighteous are conditions found only among humans. Since HaShem cannot even be compared to a man according to Isaiah 46:5, it is only obvious that He is Perfect and Righteous.
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
Thanks for being honest

U utterly wanna say that God should obey us not vice versa.

Those who u mentioned they have problems with certain type of gods
I mean if they find a god that has no orders they will say he is a perfect god because they are slaves of their passions

But the seekers after the truth say our reasons say the creator of everything had a purpose of creation so what would be that????

The ultimate message of prophets is that we should bring our lust and passions under the control of reason

Get married eat drink sleep enough but don't live like animal rather try to be angels

Do angels marry eat drink and sleep enough?

Ciao

- viole
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
This is because u have no knowledge about God and the most important thing is that u compare him with ourselves that's your mistake

When u know God as an unlimited existence which we Muslims believe every attributes that we ascribe to him is unlimited too. And when we talk about an existence that is omniscient and omnipotent there is no place for such existence to lie because he has everything.
We usually lie because of fear ,obtaining better situation, making fun of others and.... But none of these reasons can be true about an unlimited existence that created everything.
Besides every imperfections are lack of perfections and as we proved he is perfect since he is unlimited.

Telling lie , rape ' jealousy , ego , self centred and..... All of imperfections are because we are in need of something and God doesn't need anything
He can have everything in no time.

God did not create everything. That is simple to prove, Ergo He lacks something, namely the creation of at least one thing.

And if being unlimited entails not lacking anything, we can conclude that He is not unlimited. And if He is defined as unlimited, then He does not exist.

Ciao

- viole
 

interminable

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God did not create everything. That is simple to prove, Ergo He lacks something, namely the creation of at least one thing.

And if being unlimited entails not lacking anything, we can conclude that He is not unlimited. And if He is defined as unlimited, then He does not exist.

Ciao

- viole
Didn't understand anything while it was simple
 

interminable

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Do you think you are completely under control of reason by believing in things like angels?

Ciao

- viole
Believing in angels alone can't help u to control your passions

Instead practicing god's orders will help u

This question was unlike from u
 

interminable

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Does God exist?

If yes, did He create Him?

Ciao

- viole
U aren't that woman that I discussed before
What happened to u?

It's clear according to infinite regress and causality we can prove the existence of God
So he has no beginning no ending

He is the creator of time and space
 
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