Shadow Wolf
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No matter how it turns out, America will have lost and will continue to lose.
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How Do You Think The Whole Trump Fiasco Will Turn Out?
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They'd better have a fool-proof plan to make that capitulation a "publicity win" if they do...
esmith
Veteran Member
You do realize don't you that Pelosi could agree to what the President wants and the government would reopen.
youknowme
Whatever you want me to be.
I highly doubt that even if Pelosi agreed with Trump the government would reopen.
You do realize that McConnell could agree with what Pelosi wants and the government would reopen. See? We can all play stupid games.
Shad
Veteran Member
Pelosi is the minority member in this. If she wants to override the veto she can put in the effort. The GOP obviously has no issues sitting on their hands for the time being.
Oh trust me, I noticed.
Shad
Veteran Member
Sad part is the GOP only dug in their heels when Trump showed some "backbone". Trump put a spot light on the funding bill so GOP politicians have to run the risk of going against Trump if they reverse course, again.
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But then, what would become of the separation of powers? In my view, it is exactly this that Trump is having a tantrum about. HIs own stated admiration for dictators in other nations must make his own inability to dictate at home something of a frustration for him. And at his tender (emotional) age, frustration often displays as tantrum. Ask any parent...
It is really up to the constituents to grow a backbone of their own (or a bit of empathy, that is also acceptable).
Barking up the wrong tree on this one.
You should tell her to call his bluff, & give him what he wants.
Then, when he declines to sign, she'll have won the public over.
How so?
Shad
Veteran Member
Too late for that.
I do not have faith in current, vocal Trump supporters taking the moral high ground in a discussion about separation of power.
Well, to start with, I can hardly be called a "vocal Trump supporter!"
But as a Canadian, my understanding is that the Framers tried to create a system in which nobody had to be kowtowed to, in which the branches of government, legislative, executive and judicial, had sufficient independence to actually protect the very democracy itself.
And for the record, I think that's a good thing. Again, as a Canadian, my Prime Minister has a majority government, and that gives him much greater power over both the legislative and the executive functions of government than a US President could ever have. (You may take that as a small point of envy, if you will.)
Shad
Veteran Member
Dems tried something similar last year but the anti-trump members in her own party revolted. I think the current Dem seats are far more anti-Trump than it was last year. Internal party conflicts I think would kill the idea.
Daemon Sophic
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I’m pretty sure @Quetzal was talking about Shad or eSmith or Salvador.Well, to start with, I can hardly be called a "vocal Trump supporter!"
But as a Canadian, my understanding is that the Framers tried to create a system in which nobody had to be kowtowed to, in which the branches of government, legislative, executive and judicial, had sufficient independence to actually protect the very democracy itself.
And for the record, I think that's a good thing. Again, as a Canadian, my Prime Minister has a majority government, and that gives him much greater power over both the legislative and the executive functions of government than a US President could ever have. (You may take that as a small point of envy, if you will.)
Actually I think the three of them may be just one guy, logging on and spouting the same stuff with three different names.
esmith
Veteran Member
No it would not, that is unless the Congress overrides the Presidents veto with a 2/3 majority, that's 2/3 in the Senate and 2/3 in the House.