How Does a Jew Attain Salvation?

[Theunis]

"Tehillim 40:7
7 Sacrifice and meal-offering Thou hast no delight in; mine ears hast Thou opened;
burnt-offering and sin-offering hast Thou not required."

Literally speaking, this statement is not true.
Exodus 29:14
14 But burn the bull's flesh and its hide and its intestines outside the camp. It is a sin offering.

G_d has indeed required both a burnt-offering and a sin-offering.
The psalmist must be making a less literal point.

Yes. Yet I feel that this came from the Paganism of old.
It is also written that G_d found this repugnant and did not want them.

 

[Theunis]

To the Temple.

Would it be wrong to say this is how the Levites are supported by their community. Was it not so that these priests were found eating some of the offerings and sacrifices?

 

[rosends]

Would it be wrong to say this is how the Levites are supported by their community. Was it not so that these priests were found eating some of the offerings and sacrifices?

because the levites and priests did not receive a share of the land, they were communally supported through the sacrifices which they partook of (some, not all) and through the tithing system.

 

[roger1440]

I am saying nothing more deep than Jews are people, too ... so Jesus offer is as available to them, as it is to anyone else.

It seems you are saying Jews need either the Temple sacrifice or Jesus. The very existence of Jews in the 21st century proves the opposite. A person doesn’t even have to read the Bible for that one. Hmm, let me guess. Jews do not know how to interpret their own scripture. It takes a non Jew to explain to them. If that is the case, how can a non Jew trust any of Jewish scripture? It was written by Jews.

 

[metis]

The only part that I would stand firm on is that everyone needs to be forgiven since none of us (people, including Jews) keeps G_d's Law perfectly.

If God demand that we had to be perfect, then there would be no logical reason why the violation of different Laws would have different penalties according to Torah. IOW, it would more be like that breaking any one Law would be the same as breaking all of them, thus the penalty would be the same, namely one would have to be executed, but that's not what Torah says.

Also, if you have a concordance, look up the word "forgive" and its variations, and what you'll see is that the Temple sacrifices were only one way in which our sins could be forgiven.

 

[roger1440]

The only part that I would stand firm on is that everyone needs to be forgiven since none of us (people, including Jews) keeps G_d's Law perfectly

Yes, at the same time it a journey. At no time can a person sit and say, “yeah, we got this”.

 

[John D. Brey]

"Tehillim 40:7
7 Sacrifice and meal-offering Thou hast no delight in; mine ears hast Thou opened;
burnt-offering and sin-offering hast Thou not required."

Literally speaking, this statement is not true.
Exodus 29:14
14 But burn the bull's flesh and its hide and its intestines outside the camp. It is a sin offering.

G_d has indeed required both a burnt-offering and a sin-offering.
The psalmist must be making a less literal point.

The Torah uses two primary Names for God (Elohim and Yahweh). Perhaps one of the aspects of the divine character likes sacrifices while the other doesn't?



John

 

[Flankerl]

Would it be wrong to say this is how the Levites are supported by their community. Was it not so that these priests were found eating some of the offerings and sacrifices?

They weren't "found" eating some of the offerings. That's how it was supposed to be.

 

[roger1440]

I am saying nothing more deep than Jews are people, too ... so Jesus offer is as available to them, as it is to anyone else.

What exactly is the message of Jesus as told in the Gospels? The overall message is that Jesus is the promised Jewish messiah. The term “promised Jewish messiah” is meaningless unless the reader reads the Torah first. The Gospel writers demand from there readers they read the Torah first. The Torah is a prerequisite to reading the Gospels. The first Gospel is the Gospel of Matthew. In the very first chapter of Matthew the writer states Jesus is born of the line of David. Who is David? You would have to read the Torah to find out. The birth of Jesus fulfills “what was said through the prophet”. What prophet? What did the prophet say? You would have to read the Torah for the answer. Jesus fulfills the Law. What Law? You would have to read the Torah to find out. Depending on what Christian you listen to Jesus fulfills somewhere between 100 to 300 prophecies. You would have to read the Torah to find out. In each and every chapter in the Gospels the Torah is mentioned either directly or indirectly. The Gospels writers are endorsing the Torah, not throwing it away.