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How Does the Existence of God Negate Darwinian Evolution?

Skywalker

Well-Known Member
Bare claims of magic, aren't explanations of anything. They have zero explanatory power.

"god dun it" has the exact same explanatory power as "interdimensional pixies dun it". Which is to say: no such explanatory power at all.

Why would evolution which contradicts the law of monopoly have more explanatory power than God?
 

ratiocinator

Lightly seared on the reality grill.
The Law of Monopoly refutes macroevolution.

Simply false. You have posted so many false statements here (remember the nonsense about oxygen in the atmosphere?) - doesn't it bother you at all? Don't you care that you are posting falsehoods?
 

Skywalker

Well-Known Member
Orangutans have even more sexual dimorphism. Chimpanzees appear to have the roughly the same. Remember, you can't tell a female chimp by looking at her face because you are human.

Another "So what?" Argument.

How do orangutans have more gender dimorphism than people? Being a chimp doesn't give them a greater ability to recognize gender. Species has nothing to do with gender recognition. Animals can tell people's gender. They know that people are different from them.
 

Skywalker

Well-Known Member
What planet do you live on?
Are you seriously that ignorant about what goes on around you?

Go ask a gay person in the bible belt how it is to be gay in the bible belt.

The Bible says to love one another and not to judge. Jesus reached out to people who society rejected, like gay people.
 

Skywalker

Well-Known Member
You have successfully repeated what I just said.

That is indeed what evolution theory predicts: mammals will produce mammals and subspecies of mammals.

If mammals would produce non-mammals, evolution would be falsified.

Wouldn't that support evolution because it would demonstrate macroevolution?
 

Skywalker

Well-Known Member
The ozone layer formed naturally. It is simply the result of O2 in our atmosphere. Another big "So what?"

Did you check out the site that I linked? It is a Christian site with Christian scientists and they would be ashamed of your posts. Once again, why are you afraid of reality? As you said you do not have to be an atheist to be a scientist. Most Christians understand that Genesis is mythical.

Why doesn't Venus or other planets have the level of 02 that we have in our atmosphere? What Christians understand that Genesis is mythical?The Ozone layer is part of nature but not even earth like planets have our level of ozone layer.
 

Skywalker

Well-Known Member
Are you claiming all these others were hoaxes, then? what is your evidence?

Nebraska Man was created from a single tooth discovered in Nebraska. Based on only one tooth (and a lot of imagination), Nebraska Man was sketched complete with a skull, skeleton, tools, and even a family. The only problem is that the tooth was later found to have come from an extinct pig!
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
Why doesn't Venus or other planets have the level of 02 that we have in our atmosphere? What Christians understand that Genesis is mythical?The Ozone layer is part of nature but not even earth like planets have our level of ozone layer.
Genesis is understood as not exactly mythical but certainly allegorical by most mainstream Christian denominations, including Catholics, Anglicans, Methodists and Presbyterians.

Other planets do not have free O2 in the atmosphere because O2 is reactive and would disappear over time. On the Earth, it is continually renewed by the photosynthesis in plants. When life first started there was no free O2. The first organisms were anaerobic, as many bacteria are to this day. When photosynthesis evolved, initially in cyanobacteria, free O2 began to accumulate, This event is marked in the geological record by bands of oxidised minerals and is thereby dated to about 2 billion years ago.

O3 (ozone) is a product of UV light acting on O2 and dissociating it into free oxygen atoms, A free atom can attach to another O2 molecule to form O3. Any planet with free O2 in its atmosphere and a nearby star that radiates in the UV would be expected to have an ozone layer.
 
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exchemist

Veteran Member
Nebraska Man was created from a single tooth discovered in Nebraska. Based on only one tooth (and a lot of imagination), Nebraska Man was sketched complete with a skull, skeleton, tools, and even a family. The only problem is that the tooth was later found to have come from an extinct pig!
I've never heard of Nebraska Man. I have heard of Neanderthals. Are they a hoax, in your opinion?
 

Skywalker

Well-Known Member
Genesis is understood as not exactly mythical but certainly allegorical by most mainstream Christian denominations, including Catholics, Angloians, Methodists and Presbyterians.

Other planets do not have free O2 in the atmosphere because O2 is reactive and would disappear over time. On the Earth, it is continually renewed by the photosynthesis in plants. When life first started there was no free O2. The first organisms were anaerobic, as many bacteria are to this day. When photosynthesis evolved, initially in cyanobacteria, free O2 began to accumulate, This event is marked in the geological record by bands of oxidised minerals and is thereby dated to about 2 billion years ago.

What do they consider allegorical? I wouldn't disagree if someone said that Adam and Eve were allegorical because it's not important. I know Christian people who don't agree with a literal viewpoint of the flood. They think it's like the parables of Jesus.

Earth is unique in terms of having plants. Without the plants we couldn't survive and vice versa. Plants are why photosynthesis exists. Why didn't life start on other planets?
 

Skywalker

Well-Known Member
I've never heard of Nebraska Man. I have heard of Neanderthals. Are they a hoax, in your opinion?

I think Neanderthals were people with rickets. Neanderthal Man was determined to be completely human-just plain, modern people with a well-developed culture, art, and religion, but who suffered from dietary deficiencies.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
What do they consider allegorical? I wouldn't disagree if someone said that Adam and Eve were allegorical because it's not important. I know Christian people who don't agree with a literal viewpoint of the flood. They think it's like the parables of Jesus.

Earth is unique in terms of having plants. Without the plants we couldn't survive and vice versa. Plants are why photosynthesis exists. Why didn't life start on other planets?
The story of Adam and Eve and the Garden of Eden is regarded as an allegory. Origen, one of the early Fathers of the Church, thought this back in 200AD. It is hardly a new idea. What is new is the silly notion that it is all to be taken literally. This idea grew up in the c.18th and 19th.

We do not know that the Earth is unique in having plants. We do not know whether there is, or was, life on other planets. We simply do not have the information. There are billions of stars like ours and very likely there are billions of planets like the Earth, too. But we can't see these planets as they are too far away and do not shine. It is quite likely that life has arisen on some of these, but we have no way of telling.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
I think Neanderthals were people with rickets. Neanderthal Man was determined to be completely human-just plain, modern people with a well-developed culture, art, and religion, but who suffered from dietary deficiencies.
This is rubbish. Where do you get this nonsense from? We have sequenced the DNA of a Neanderthal, from a preserved bone. We know, for sure, they were a genetically distinct form of human being. More here: Neanderthal genetics - Wikipedia
 
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