How does the story of Adam and Eve compatible with science?

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

According to 2Pet.2:5, Noah was “a preacher of righteousness”, he warned them. They had the opportunity to “demonstrate their faith” & get on the Ark.

No artistic representation I've ever seen, even that blasphemous "museum" in Kentucky, show an ark designed to fit all those people Noah supposedly invited.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

Concerning the Ark: The Arc by the evidence is impossible to physically build such a ship even today. Your claim. What you claim subjectively what God did or intended to do is not evidence. This is true world wide.

Yeah. You need insurance to cover water damage in modern representations. LOL.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

Those that first told the story on a dark night around a fire, had no concept of science. The were probably still in the stone age. It has no more reality than a "Just So" story

Honestly, there are other myths around the globe that have metaphors much more accurate to reality than the Bible.

 

[shunyadragon]

Creationists forget about plate tectonics. If I remember correctly a lot of the sediments ended up in central valley California. The Gulf of California itself is a rather young feature. It is only about 5 million years old and the delta of the Colorado extends as far north as Indio. Creationists tend to look for the sediments only at the current mouth of the Colorado and look out into the Gulf of California from there. When one looks in the wrong spot it is no wonder that they cannot find the sediments that they are hoping to find:

Gulf of California - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Good post!! Yes, this is the correct geology related to the Grand Canyon and the delta sediments.

 

[shunyadragon]

So, since you consider much of your ancestors’ books, ie., the Hebrew Bible, as fiction and myth, how do you view the origin of the Passover? Do you understand the significance of the *controlled* event?

The objective verifiable evidence concerning the history covered by the flood does not exist. Based on the history of the text evolved from Babylonian and sumerian ancient texts it is based on oral stories handed down about a catastrophic flood of the Tigris Euphrates River Valley.

The only 'controlled events' known are objectively verified 'Natural events such as the documented catastrophic flood of the Tigris Euphrates River valley by Geologic evidence that corresponds to the timing of being some time before the earliest recorded record when these valley were settled. The other catastrophic floods of the world are caused by known documented causes at different times such as Tropical storms. catastrophic local river floods, tsunamis, glacial lake collapses,

Like all religions the 'observances like the Passover are based traditional beliefs and not necessarily historically documented. The supernatural events in the Book of Exodus are not historically documented outside the Exodus of the Bible. There is no archaeological evidence for the events of the Book of Exodus.

(There on raditonal beliefs and not necessarily e’s that word again!)

You don’t believe your God can be the source of miracles, altering the laws of physics!

And no local floods resulted in the preserved megafaunal remains enveloped by the Permafrost…. In some cases, deep within it.

There is no objective evidence for the miraculous events recorded in all the ancient scriptures of the world. Yes over hundreds of thousands of years or more large mammals lived and died in the arctic buried in layers of peat and permafrost over time. This is still happening today. In the Arctic climate they were preserved. If it was a tropical climate very few bones would have survived unless they were quickly buried by sediment along rivers.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Yeah. The Thermians.

I have seen the movie, but I forgot their name. You have a good point. I have met Christians that claimed that all of the parables were real life events. Most of them include the parable of the unfaithful wife. You know, let he that be without sin cast the first stone". Jesus never said that. You are probably aware of how many Christians keep nattering endlessly about all of the "manuscripts" that they have. Manuscripts are merely hand copies of earlier works. But if you live the the manuscripts you also die by them. That parable is oddly enough missing from the earliest manuscripts. I do not know the first time it appears, though a scholar probably would, but it somehow caught on and was fond in more and more manuscripts.

Hmm . . . Google?

It first appears in the mid fifth century, more than 400 years after Jesus's death:

Should ‘Let He Who Is Without Sin Cast the First Stone’ Be in the Bible?

That is a very literalistic Christian site. Not really a scholarly one, but it shows that even Christians know that it was not an original work.

 

[blü 2]

I do not believe one can observe an evolution.

What do you make of experiments that demonstrate evolution happening?

Like this famous example, for instance?

 

[TLK Valentine]

FYI, I have a PhD in organic synthetic chemistry.

From Trump University, as like as not.

Everywhere else refers to it as "Synthetic Organic Chemistry."

 

[Hockeycowboy]

And there ya' have it....humans existing earlier than 6,000 years ago is incompatible with Christianity. Good to know.

Don’t misunderstand…
Saying human history is relatively young, is no contradiction to the Earth being billions of years old.

You do see that, I hope?

 

[YoursTrue]

The objective verifiable evidence concerning the history covered by the flood does not exist. Based on the history of the text evolved from Babylonian and sumerian ancient texts it is based on oral stories handed down about a catastrophic flood of the Tigris Euphrates River Valley.

The only 'controlled events' known are objectively verified 'Natural events such as the documented catastrophic flood of the Tigris Euphrates River valley by Geologic evidence that corresponds to the timing of being some time before the earliest recorded record when these valley were settled. The other catastrophic floods of the world are caused by known documented causes at different times such as Tropical storms. catastrophic local river floods, tsunamis, glacial lake collapses,

Like all religions the 'observances like the Passover are based traditional beliefs and not necessarily historically documented. The supernatural events in the Book of Exodus are not historically documented outside the Exodus of the Bible. There is no archaeological evidence for the events of the Book of Exodus.


There is no objective evidence for the miraculous events recorded in all the ancient scriptures of the world. Yes over hundreds of thousands of years or more large mammals lived and died in the arctic buried in layers of peat and permafrost over time. This is still happening today. In the Arctic climate they were preserved. If it was a tropical climate very few bones would have survived unless they were quickly buried by sediment along rivers.

In other words, many of various religions are involved in celebrating myths.

 

[YoursTrue]

No artistic representation I've ever seen, even that blasphemous "museum" in Kentucky, show an ark designed to fit all those people Noah supposedly invited.

There was a reason. However -- here is something Jesus said about the days of Noah when the Flood came, likening it to his return (not physical return though): You will find this in Matthew chapter 24:
"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. 37As it was in the days of Noah, so will it be at the coming of the Son of Man.
38For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark. 39And they were oblivious, until the flood came and swept them all away. So will it be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40Two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left. 41Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left."

 

[YoursTrue]

Don’t misunderstand…
Saying human history is relatively young, is no contradiction to the Earth being billions of years old.

You do see that, I hope?

I have also found that writing of history is "relatively" new, really only a few thousand years old. Despite the claim that humans were evolved much before that, and the reason some give is that they didn't "need" to write because they were kind of like nomads...

 

[Subduction Zone]

I have also found that writing of history is "relatively" new, really only a few thousand years old. Despite the claim that humans were evolved much before that, and the reason some give is that they didn't "need" to write because they were kind of like nomads...

History could not exist until after civilization existed.

 

[Subduction Zone]

There was a reason. However -- here is something Jesus said about the days of Noah when the Flood came, likening it to his return (not physical return though): You will find this in Matthew chapter 24:
"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. 37As it was in the days of Noah, so will it be at the coming of the Son of Man.
38For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark. 39And they were oblivious, until the flood came and swept them all away. So will it be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40Two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left. 41Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left."

And if Jesus was who you think that he was then that was merely a literary tool. On the order of saying "She is as old as the hills" It works as an attempt to get a message across. Do you believe that Jesus was God or not?

 

[YoursTrue]

History could not exist until after civilization existed.

I'm sorry, but your comments prompts me to say "monkey-human-monkey" history maybe in some people's viewpoint.

 

[YoursTrue]

And if Jesus was who you think that he was then that was merely a literary tool. On the order of saying "She is as old as the hills" It works as an attempt to get a message across. Do you believe that Jesus was God or not?

One would have to understand the definition of the word 'god' (or God) as it applies in various contexts. The Bible acknowledges there are many gods. Jesus as quoted in the Bible answers that question in part: (John 20:17 - Jesus spoke to Mary and said, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended unto the Father: but go unto my brethren, and say to them, I ascend unto my Father and your Father, and my God and your God." Thus Jesus said he has a God and this God was his God.
My answer: Jesus is not God, but the Son of God who obeyed his Father throughout his life, before and after his appearance on the earth. I hope that helps to understand my view of whether Jesus was (is) God or not. The short answer is no, I do not believe Jesus was God, but was given great power and authority by God, his Father.

 

[shunyadragon]

In other words, many of various religions are involved in celebrating myths.

True, many variable conflicting myths of Creation without the knowledge of science that evolved from earlier writings and oral traditional stories.

 

[shunyadragon]

Don’t misunderstand…
Saying human history is relatively young, is no contradiction to the Earth being billions of years old.

You do see that, I hope?

300.000+ years of documented human history in Africa and the Levant is relatively young compared to an earth and universe billions of years old.

 

[Balthazzar]

How does the story of Adam and Eve compatible with science?

Biology, reproduction, and psychology, coupled with the typical parental "it's time for you to grow up talks". Beyond this, honest teachings about the pains of childbirth and the difficulty associated with life realities.

 

[Balthazzar]

Wait a sec, DNA research world wide has proven that we're all descendants s of one woman and one man.

How so? I do know that humans only have one set of parents, 1 maternal and 1 paternal who are responsible for our dna sequence and coding. It's a stretch, imo, to suggest that worldwide research has "proven" that we all descended from one single man and woman. Although, I'm sure there is a desire for this to be true.