How Exactly Did The Russians Influence The U.S. Elections?

[Underhill]

From what I have personally observed over my brief years of existence on this Earth, I see it as a pendulum, it swings this way and that way- You Wait Your Turn! Don't be greedy or grasping or make sulky faces if you think you lost, and most importantly - don't whine! It just makes you look like sexually unsatisfied groupies on a party bus who had slices of bologna thrown at your butt-cheeks with no orgasm in sight!

Who is wining?

When it comes to party I agree. There are swings.

But public opinion on social issues has shifted dramatically in the liberal direction for decades. And opinion on economic matters is starting to make a similar shift.

 

[Parchment]

But public opinion on social issues has shifted dramatically in the liberal direction for decades. And opinion on economic matters is starting to make a similar shift.

What kind of cheese would you like to accompany that Whine with?
I prefer Night Train!

 

[Underhill]

What kind of cheese would you like to accompany that Whine with?
I prefer Night Train!

Clue Castello for me please.

 

[Revoltingest]

Assange says it wasn't the Russians.....
Assange To Hannity: Our Source Was Not The Russian Government

 

[habiru]

Assange says it wasn't the Russians.....
Assange To Hannity: Our Source Was Not The Russian Government

Everybody should know about now, that it weren't the Russians that had hacked into these emails, that were true authentic.. The U.S. government are claiming that they can trace where the hacks had originated from. But why they wanted Assange to reveal his sources? All of these politicians were all in-cahoots with one another. They had a money making scheme that would of had last a lifetime. But they doesn't want an outsider like President Trump to ruin everything that they has work for a very long time. But when is it a crime to influence the public with the truth. I can understand that the emails were lies. But they weren't. They are plotting a scheme to throw our minds off the facts that are in those emails, and having us to focus on a war Russia. But luckily, Putin has been Baptized, and so he doesn't has an harden heart like the others, that he is looking for peace instead of war. But it look as if Obama is trying to push the Russian President buttons, by accusing that the Russians hackers, kicking the Russian's Ambassadors out of this country as if they were stray dogs, and just making up plain ole' lies about them in front of the Russians faces. But the Russian President has been ignoring all of these tactics to provoke them into having a war with us. Everytime Putin ignores Obama, that Obama just laughs about it and then try figuring out another way how to push Putin's buttons.

"I shall come to ask for the Consecration of Russia to My Immaculate Heart...If people attend to My requests, Russia will be converted and the world will have peace." Essentials: The Facts: The Consecration of Russia

 

[metis]

Oh ya, 17 different intelligence agencies must all be so corrupt, ignorant, or both so that they're all making up these stories. And then all those senators and representatives who have been informed by the intelligence community all are just so dishonest and ignorant that they are just playing along with this.

Ya, right! Got it!

 

[Revoltingest]

Oh ya, 17 different intelligence agencies must all be so corrupt, ignorant, or both so that they're all making up these stories. And then all those senators and representatives who have been informed by the intelligence community all are just so dishonest and ignorant that they are just playing along with this.

Ya, right! Got it!

Then you also still believe that Saddam had the claimed WMDs?
And which intelligence agency says they're certain the Ruskies did it?
Julian Assange says it wasn't the Russians.
Unlike the government employed experts, he is in a unique position to know for certain.

 

[habiru]

Oh ya, 17 different intelligence agencies must all be so corrupt, ignorant, or both so that they're all making up these stories. And then all those senators and representatives who have been informed by the intelligence community all are just so dishonest and ignorant that they are just playing along with this.

Ya, right! Got it!

You can get anything you want done if you have a lot of money. And senators works for money, and just imagine what they will do for it.

 

[habiru]

 

[habiru]

 

[whirlingmerc]

They probably didn't.

So the question is... if someone caught Hillary (Obama, Kerry, etc .... ) in a bunch of lies... that the lies don't matter?

I know it's terribly disappointing to some but there is not a constitutional right to lie and not such right that evidence obtained in an unconventional manner should be thrown out of consideration of the people in an election even if your an elite politician and 'cleared by the FBI' as merely reckless not criminal. People looked at Hillary and decided mostly there were two bad choices but middle class democrats didn't feel she represented their interest, church going people largely voted against her and people concerned with the wheels coming off the bus regarding economy, debt and healthcare didn't trust here. Those are Hillary's fault not the Russians

Probably was mostly WikiLeaks... but the greater damage was that key democrats were caught lying to the public and no embarrassment no shame no integrity.... sad
If there was any doubt key democrats will lie to the public, doubt no more

Both Hillary and Trump have significant flaws but being so comfortable with misleading people is not presidential of Mrs Clinton and she did herself in, if there's someone to blame its herself. I agree Trump has some rough edges and says undiplomatic things. If he takes the advice of people around him he might do ok.

 

[Revoltingest]

Probably was mostly WikiLeaks... but the greater damage was that key democrats were caught lying to the public and no embarrassment no shame no integrity.... sad
If there was any doubt key democrats will lie to the public, doubt no more

Both Hillary and Trump have significant flaws but being so comfortable with misleading people is not presidential of Mrs Clinton and she did herself in, if there's someone to blame its herself

Moreover, it wasn't just Hillary....twas the machine of which she was part.
The DNC rigged things in her favor, along with the NYT & other leftish media.
Add to this her history with Wall St, the Clinton Foundation, & access selling,
& she looks like merely the tip of the iceberg.

 

[metis]

So the question is... if someone caught Hillary (Obama, Kerry, etc .... ) in a bunch of lies... that the lies don't matter?

I agree Trump has some rough edges and says undiplomatic things. If he takes the advice of people around him he might do ok.

And you actually believe that Hillary has told more lies over the last year than Trump?

And what about all the things that Trump has done that so totally counter even the most basic Christian teachings, whereas I simply cannot understand how a Christian could actually lower themselves enough to vote for him? Do we have to repeat the long list of what he has said and done that are polar-opposite of what you read in the gospels?

 

[habiru]

So the question is... if someone caught Hillary (Obama, Kerry, etc .... ) in a bunch of lies... that the lies don't matter?

I know it's terribly disappointing to some but there is not a constitutional right to lie and not such right that evidence obtained in an unconventional manner should be thrown out of consideration of the people in an election even if your an elite politician and 'cleared by the FBI' as merely reckless not criminal. People looked at Hillary and decided mostly there were two bad choices but middle class democrats didn't feel she represented their interest, church going people largely voted against her and people concerned with the wheels coming off the bus regarding economy, debt and healthcare didn't trust here. Those are Hillary's fault not the Russians

Probably was mostly WikiLeaks... but the greater damage was that key democrats were caught lying to the public and no embarrassment no shame no integrity.... sad
If there was any doubt key democrats will lie to the public, doubt no more

Both Hillary and Trump have significant flaws but being so comfortable with misleading people is not presidential of Mrs Clinton and she did herself in, if there's someone to blame its herself. I agree Trump has some rough edges and says undiplomatic things. If he takes the advice of people around him he might do ok.

But you have forgotten something.......

https://imgur.com/GslJ8zH

Well, one thing that I know that she certainly had lied about was that she had said that she was physically fit to be president.

Clinton tells FBI she could not recall all briefings on preserving documents

 

[averageJOE]

So...Democrats are claiming Russia influenced the elections by releasing emails showing how the Democrats rigged the primary elections???

 

[tytlyf]

So...Democrats are claiming Russia influenced the elections by releasing emails showing how the Democrats rigged the primary elections???

democrats didn't rig the primaries. The swamp sure did against Trump tho

 

[averageJOE]

democrats didn't rig the primaries. The swamp sure did against Trump tho

Your kidding...right? Do you even know what those emails were about?
Wikileaks Proves Primary Was Rigged: DNC Undermined Democracy

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/23/us/politics/dnc-emails-sanders-clinton.html?_r=0

 

[Milton Platt]

I haven't seen one shred of evidence or heard a good argument that would make me believe that Russians somehow got Trump elected. We do know that the same intelligence agencies that are claiming "the Russians did it!" are the same intelligence agencies that got us into the first Iraq war under false pretenses and have used mass surveillance against it's own people for years and lied about it and now we are supposed to trust them with the claim that somehow Russians manipulated the 2016 U.S. election. I'd say there is probably far more evidence and a better case to be made that many of our own domestic media sources attempted to overtly and covertly manipulate public opinion influencing the election in Clinton's favor rather than Russia in Trumps.

I haven't heard anyone say that. What was said is that they tried to influence the elections.

 

[Lyndon]

The Russians got Trump elected, its pretty plain and simple. There; someone said it.

 

[Revoltingest]

The Russians got Trump elected, its pretty plain and simple. There; someone said it.

Hillary got Trump elected.
She's a Russian agent.
There...someone said it.

It's an incontrovertible fact.
But my proof is secret.