How Exactly Did The Russians Influence The U.S. Elections?

[whirlingmerc]

The latest Intel says the information in the Wiki Leaks was substantially true
That was after the DNC Chair said otherwise

I think people picked up that the DNC was not being honest with them

Intel report on Russian interference finds no documents forged

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While the report accused Russian President Vladimir Putin of ordering a campaign to influence the U.S. election and hurt Hillary Clinton’s candidacy, it found that the material sent to WikiLeaks did not contain “any evident forgeries.”

The claim that the emails may have been doctored or forged was raised by DNC Interim Chair Donna Brazile in October, when she was criticized for an email that surfaced in hacked messages from Podesta’s account.
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[tytlyf]

The latest Intel says the information in the Wiki Leaks was substantially true
That was after the DNC Chair said otherwise

I think people picked up that the DNC was not being honest with them

Intel report on Russian interference finds no documents forged

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While the report accused Russian President Vladimir Putin of ordering a campaign to influence the U.S. election and hurt Hillary Clinton’s candidacy, it found that the material sent to WikiLeaks did not contain “any evident forgeries.”

The claim that the emails may have been doctored or forged was raised by DNC Interim Chair Donna Brazile in October, when she was criticized for an email that surfaced in hacked messages from Podesta’s account.
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Doesn't matter if they're forged or not. The purpose of the information obtained from the hack was to be used to smear the candidates even further. That's a whole lot of additional information that RW media can manipulate even if it's harmless intel.

 

[whirlingmerc]

Doesn't matter if they're forged or not. The purpose of the information obtained from the hack was to be used to smear the candidates even further. That's a whole lot of additional information that RW media can manipulate even if it's harmless intel.

You represent the 'character doesn't matter' and 'honesty doesn't matter position' well which is the direction of the DNC for a number of years.

 

[metis]

Mostly CNN telling one lie to cover-up another lie.
Its gone from neuroses to psychosis.

Where do you get most of your news from, may I ask? I use multiple sources, and I rarely ever see CNN out of touch with most of them with the main exception of Fox.

 

[metis]

You represent the 'character doesn't matter' and 'honesty doesn't matter position' well which is the direction of the DNC for a number of years.

If that was important to you, then why did you vote for Trump?

 

[Parchment]

This thing might be better posted in the Jokes/games section:
Russia Hacking report
One of the key findings were that Russia supposedly used paid trolls to get on media sites and make pro-Trump statements to influence the election- in other words any pro- Trump statements you have seen anywhere might have been Russian trolls!

 

[whirlingmerc]

If that was important to you, then why did you vote for Trump?

lesser of two evils

 

[habiru]

democrats didn't rig the primaries. The swamp sure did against Trump tho

Election being rigged?

Well, it looks like to me that they did not detected as being rigged until after President Trump has won.

 

[habiru]

This thing might be better posted in the Jokes/games section:
Russia Hacking report
One of the key findings were that Russia supposedly used paid trolls to get on media sites and make pro-Trump statements to influence the election- in other words any pro- Trump statements you have seen anywhere might have been Russian trolls!

I haven't seen hardly anyone supporting President Trump on these sites. I had to fight all by myself against millions of Trolls that are on these sites. Well, corporation's Trolls and which Hillary has slept with them all.

 

[metis]

lesser of two evils

Really? With all the things that Trump has said and done, which is a list of things that could fill this page, you honestly think that Hillary is more "evil" than Trump? Do we have to put up a list of some of these again?

And how can you as a Christian actually support a man who has done and said these many despicable things, whirlingmerc? Adultery, two divorces, bragging about his affairs, saying he can grope women, intentionally walking into even teenage girls changing clothes, his persistent lying to whereas many members of his own party have called him a "pathological liar", the many lawsuits against him for not paying sub-contractors, his paying of two fines for illegal use of campaign funds, bragging about how he doesn't need God's forgiveness, etc.

And what was Hillary guilty of? One was a terrible decision to use her own server and the other that involved her lying under oath, both which granted were terrible for her to do. I don't cut her any slack at all on these things. But these two items, which were determined not to be bad enough for prosecution, are somehow more "evil" than Trump's list, even though I only put up some of the items he's done?

Maybe think more about that when you're in church tomorrow.

 

[whirlingmerc]

Yes. Hillary had decades of 'bad judgement' and it caught up with her.

But add that the GOP platform was better than the DNC platform
The DNC platform even wanted to repeal the Hyde Amendment, the one that liberals swore on stacks of Bibles that protected religious liberty and conscience not using tax dollars for abortion

 

[metis]

Yes. Hillary had decades of 'bad judgement' and it caught up with her.

But add that the GOP platform was better than the DNC platform
The DNC platform even wanted to repeal the Hyde Amendment, the one that liberals swore on stacks of Bibles that protected religious liberty and conscience not using tax dollars for abortion

We do not finance abortion, and the investigations into this has found that what was done against PP was entirely a fabrication of guilt. If it wasn't, then where's the lawsuit to try PP for illegal use of funds? A congressional agency could have easily done that-- but they didn't, and that should tell you something.

But I can't help notice how you've moved the goalposts. The issue is your statement about "the lesser of the two evils", namely Hillary and the Donald.

And as far as "bad judgement" is concerned, do you honestly believe for one minute that Trump's believing in Putin while dissing 17 different intelligence agencies is anything but "bad judgement"?

So, again, think about this while in church tomorrow in terms of how could a Christian actually vote for Trump with all that he's said and done? You had other options.

 

[whirlingmerc]

Actually there are many ways that the AHA funds abortion though it says it doesn't and the DNC platform did have a plank to repeal the Hyde Amendment

 

[metis]

Actually there are many ways that the AHA funds abortion though it says it doesn't and the DNC platform did have a plank to repeal the Hyde Amendment

Sources? I mean real sources.

BTW, there are a great many other components to life than just abortion. I personally am opposed to abortion, but I am unwilling to have me or the state tell a woman what she must do to that which is in her, especially since I and the state has enough problems of our own.

 

[whirlingmerc]

You weren't aware the DNC platform called for the repeal of the Hyde amendment?
see article How the Democratic platform betrays millions of the party faithful

As far as getting taxpayers to pay anyway, ere are 4 ways
see article 4 Ways Planned Parenthood Billls Taxpayers For Abortions

and according to one Forbes article, Chris Conniver writes
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As best I can determine, taxpayers subsidize roughly 24% of all abortion costs in the U.S. with 6.6% borne by federal taxpayers and the remaining 17.4% picked up by state taxpayers. If we apply the 24% figure to the total number of abortions, this is equivalent to taxpayers paying the full cost of 250,000 abortions a year, with about 70,000 financed by federal taxpayers and 180,000 financed by state taxpayers
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see article Are American Taxpayers Paying For Abortion?

In the end, the irony is that DNC wanted Trump to run against Hillary but didn't realize they got out of touch with too many groups And the GOP platform was better and more respectful to religious liberty and conscience.

 

[habiru]

 

[whirlingmerc]

Both the RNC and DNC were attacked.... the DNC was the soft target with poor security and so got their clock cleaned....
Perhaps a good lesson to the DNC to be more careful

 

[Revoltingest]

Perhaps a good lesson to the DNC to be more careful

Or less corrupt.

 

[whirlingmerc]

Or less corrupt.

True how true...
They seem to be forgetting to be embarrassed over bad judgement and bad behavior
but... there's allot of that going around lately

 

[metis]

You weren't aware the DNC platform called for the repeal of the Hyde amendment?

I had thought that the DNC first put it in but then removed it prior to final passage.

Secondly, just a reminder that the Hyde Amendment does legally allow abortions in cases of rape and incest.