How Exactly Did The Russians Influence The U.S. Elections?

[columbus]

We need to work with Russia, not against. We humans are all on this planet together. Whatever happens on a global scale affects us all.

Why would an oligarchic tyrant work with us?
I am kinda stunned by the people who trust Russians and Wikileaks more than the CIA.
Tom

 

[Scuba Pete]

Even in Taxachusetts?

Dude, go to Boston and search for Russian bookstores. So many. So cool.

Conned?

Since you don't know what it is, here's a definition for you from www.Dictionary.com

Con
adjective
1. involving abuse of confidence :
a con trick.
verb (used with object), conned, conning.
2. to swindle; trick:
That crook conned me out of all my savings.
3. to persuade by deception, cajolery, etc.
noun
4. a confidence game or swindle.
5. a lie, exaggeration, or glib self-serving talk:
He had a dozen different cons for getting out of paying traffic tickets.
Origin Expand
1895-1900, Americanism; by shortening of confidence

So yeah, you've been conned, duped, hoodwinked, misled, double crossed, inveigled, bamboozled, and I could go to a thesaurus if you need additional help in understanding the concept. While we're at it, I have a bridge in Arizona I want to sell you. You seem to be an easy mark, er customer.

 

[Watchmen]

There was absolutely nothing fair or square about the way that Trump won, any intelligent person should see that.

Wrong.

 

[Watchmen]

You obviously not at all familiar with Trump's record. Maybe do some homework before spouting things like the above. Maybe google "what laws has Trump violated" and see what you find, OK?

BTW, the *eyeroll* is just so childish, and if that's the best you can do, then I'd rather just have conversations with the adults here at RF.

I'm very familiar with the accusations. Too bad you're not "adult" enough to handle someone disagreeing with you.

 

[Lyndon]

Wrong.

You Trump lovers are so original!!

 

[Watchmen]

You obviously not at all familiar with Trump's record. Maybe do some homework before spouting things like the above. Maybe google "what laws has Trump violated" and see what you find, OK?

BTW, the *eyeroll* is just so childish, and if that's the best you can do, then I'd rather just have conversations with the adults here at RF.

Oh, and thanks for not denying that Hillary is a career criminal. Gives you credibility! Ha!

 

[Watchmen]

You Trump lovers are so original!!

I'm not a Trump lover. Lol. The left is so ignorant if you disagree with them they call you a Trump lover! Ha!

 

[Revoltingest]

I'm not a Trump lover. Lol. The left is so ignorant if you disagree with them they call you a Trump lover! Ha!

They're still very disappointed & angry.....& having a difficult time handling it.

 

[Kuzcotopia]

If I may jump in here, I have this one interesting tidbit of likely media efforts in Hillary's favor.....
Hacked emails suggest Trump was right after all: Clinton got previews of some debate questions

Yep, that's awful. I cannot defend that action, not excuse Clinton for her environment. Had the right put up ANYONE else but Trump, I would have voted against her based on this kind of terrible behavior. I certainly wouldn't try to rationalize it because she has a capital D by her name, either.

But that behavior is not the claim the OP made, is it?

The position of the OP suggests a wild conspiracy theory where all of media that isn't specifically and unapologically right wing is automatically left and colluding against the president-elect.

Trying to use that wild conspiracy theory to create to normalize our president-elect's rejection of the CIA's conclusions, sight unseen I might add, is both lazy and insane.

 

[Revoltingest]

Yep, that's awful. I cannot defend that action, not excuse Clinton for her environment. Had the right put up ANYONE else but Trump, I would have voted against her based on this kind of terrible behavior. I certainly wouldn't try to rationalize it because she has a capital D by her name, either.

But that behavior is not the claim the OP made, is it?

The thread was heading in this direction....but not at my direction.

The position of the OP suggests a wild conspiracy theory where all of media that isn't specifically and unapologically right wing is automatically left and colluding against the president-elect.

Trying to use that wild conspiracy theory to create to normalize our president-elect's rejection of the CIA's conclusions, sight unseen I might add, is both lazy and insane.

Trump does have a vivid imagination.
And he shares it more than I like.

 

[Neo Deist]

"Freedom" does not involve having a foreign state alter what should be free and honest elections. I appreciate your being a veteran, but I can't say you voted to actually help this country this time. Time will tell.

BTW, a lot of people fought for our freedom.

Free and honest elections would be the candidates disclosing everything that they have ever done and then letting the public decide who is the better candidate.

 

[Watchmen]

They're still very disappointed & angry.....& having a difficult time handling it.

So true!

 

[Guy Threepwood]

Travelling thru MI, OH, PA, NY, CT, & MA, I saw a whole lotta Trump & Pence signs.
I saw only a couple Hillary signs.

Musta been them Russkies planting them in people's yards!

I really wish I'd traveled as much here this election season to get a first hand poll. I was in Canukistan, Francostan, and Germistan for much of it, and they still mainly speak some sort of unintelligible gibberish.

I never supported Trump as a candidate, I agreed with the Dems, he was the most beatable... until I saw the level of support in our state-

We both live in similar areas I think; satellites of liberal constituencies..? which were key in turning MI, PA, WI, OH.... so really they should save all the trouble and just poll us next time..

 

[Revoltingest]

Musta been them Russkies planting them in people's yards!

I really wish I'd traveled as much here this election season to get a first hand poll. I was in Canukistan, Francostan, and Germistan for much of it, and they still mainly speak some sort of unintelligible gibberish.

I never supported Trump as a candidate, I agreed with the Dems, he was the most beatable... until I saw the level of support in our state-

We both live in similar areas I think; satellites of liberal constituencies..? which were key in turning MI, PA, WI, OH.... so really they should save all the trouble and just poll us next time..

In my town, anyone with a Trump sign would've been risking arson or at least a tongue lashing.
As I related before, my assistant had a Trump bumper sticker, & one 'progressive' told him (both
by note on the windshield & by yelling.....
"F*** you! You Nazi piece of s***!"
Fortunately for both my assistant & the progressive, I've spent years counselling the former
on being more like Jesus, & less violent. No arrests or emergency room visits were made.

 

[metis]

I'm very familiar with the accusations. Too bad you're not "adult" enough to handle someone disagreeing with you.

It's not that you disagreed with me but the way in which you did it. That pretty much should be common sense, but then...

So,...

1.the election is over.

2.members of Congress have called for an investigation and they belong to both parties and the POTUS agrees; therefore...

3.there's going to be an investigation into what any serious backer of our democracy should support for security reasons.

Now, which of these do you not understand?

 

[metis]

Free and honest elections would be the candidates disclosing everything that they have ever done and then letting the public decide who is the better candidate.

And you think I would disagree with that?

But let me also add to the above that people should also look very carefully into the issues that are involved and that this is typically more important than just having some sort of popularity contest. Do you agree with that?

 

[Revoltingest]

Dude, go to Boston and search for Russian bookstores. So many. So cool.

Since you don't know what it is, here's a definition for you from www.Dictionary.com

Con
adjective
1. involving abuse of confidence :
a con trick.
verb (used with object), conned, conning.
2. to swindle; trick:
That crook conned me out of all my savings.
3. to persuade by deception, cajolery, etc.
noun
4. a confidence game or swindle.
5. a lie, exaggeration, or glib self-serving talk:
He had a dozen different cons for getting out of paying traffic tickets.
Origin Expand
1895-1900, Americanism; by shortening of confidence

So yeah, you've been conned, duped, hoodwinked, misled, double crossed, inveigled, bamboozled, and I could go to a thesaurus if you need additional help in understanding the concept. While we're at it, I have a bridge in Arizona I want to sell you. You seem to be an easy mark, er customer.

You voted for a war monger who promised free college educations & no middle class tax increase.
Those in glass houses shouldn't.....you know.

 

[metis]

Oh, and thanks for not denying that Hillary is a career criminal. Gives you credibility! Ha!

Apparently, honesty is not your forte. I have never excused Hillary for what I have repeatedly posted here at RF as a "stupid mistake"-- and that's not the only one she made. Since you cannot admit the same about Trump, and since you posted a lie about me, then I would suggest you are serioiusly honesty-challenged. Either way, I have had more than enough of your arrogance and sarcasm, so I'm going to just be dealing with the more adult and honest members here at RF.

 

[Revoltingest]

Apparently, honesty is not your forte. I have never excused Hillary for what I have repeatedly posted here at RF as a "stupid mistake"-- and that's not the only one she made. Since you cannot admit the same about Trump, and since you posted a lie about me, then I would suggest you are serioiusly honesty-challenged. Either way, I have had more than enough of your arrogance and sarcasm, so I'm going to just be dealing with the more adult and honest members here at RF.

You mispronounced "forte".

 

[Scuba Pete]

You voted for a war monger who promised free college educations & no middle class tax increase.

I never saw her as someone who profited from war ie, a war monger. Wanting to protect America and war mongering are two different things. Not that I expect anyone who voted for Trump to be able to discern such nuances in the English language, but it needs to be noted. If you feel she did profit from war, I would love to see your evidence. But like almost every negative thing said about Clinton, there's only bluster and incredibly little supporting evidence. You wrap yourself in Trump's con job like a security blanket. You cling to the lies and the hate like your tenuous grasp to reality depended on it. Oh snap. It does.

So, what's Trump hiding that he's so afraid of what the CIA is finding? Disparaging the CIA is not usually a Republican value.