How Great is the Darkness?

[mickiel]

One thing about my life I have regretably come to accept, is that I live my life in the Darkness. I had to leave the Church many years ago because I began to understand that I was different than them, I had a lot of sin in me, and it was in me to stay. I was born with sin, and it ruled much of my life. It was also just as easy for me to believe in God, since my memory began, as far back as I can recall. I just always believed in God, that has never been an issue with me, its been easy. But there was something in me that was drawn to sin. The way it made me " Feel", the pull it had has always been more powerful than I. Its just that when I was young, I didnot know what this " Darkness was." This " Thing inside of me", this influence that kept hurting me, rotting my sucesses and knocking me down. I didnot understand that this " Force" was indeed Great!

In Matthews 6:23, Jesus himself gives an astounding teaching;"But if your eye is bad, your whole body is full of Darkness. If therefore the Light in you is Darkness, how Great is the Darkness!" If what is really leading you, is this Great Darkness, then the Darkness is your Master. Its what has you. And it has had me all of my life. It has never taken away my belief in God, but it has continually asserted its dominance over me. I understand what the Great King David meant when he asked God not to let his sin have dominion over him.

But I wanted to give an inside view of this Great Darkness, because I live in it each day.

Peace.

 

[slave2six]

I have no idea what you're talking about. It sounds like you either need to go to confession or you need to just accept that you are the way you are.

Chaos.

 

[AlsoAnima]

One thing about my life I have regretably come to accept, is that I live my life in the Darkness. I had to leave the Church many years ago because I began to understand that I was different than them, I had a lot of sin in me, and it was in me to stay. I was born with sin, and it ruled much of my life. It was also just as easy for me to believe in God, since my memory began, as far back as I can recall. I just always believed in God, that has never been an issue with me, its been easy. But there was something in me that was drawn to sin. The way it made me " Feel", the pull it had has always been more powerful than I. Its just that when I was young, I didnot know what this " Darkness was." This " Thing inside of me", this influence that kept hurting me, rotting my sucesses and knocking me down. I didnot understand that this " Force" was indeed Great!

In Matthews 6:23, Jesus himself gives an astounding teaching;"But if your eye is bad, your whole body is full of Darkness. If therefore the Light in you is Darkness, how Great is the Darkness!" If what is really leading you, is this Great Darkness, then the Darkness is your Master. Its what has you. And it has had me all of my life. It has never taken away my belief in God, but it has continually asserted its dominance over me. I understand what the Great King David meant when he asked God not to let his sin have dominion over him.

But I wanted to give an inside view of this Great Darkness, because I live in it each day.

Peace.

'The Darkness' you describe is a psychological behavoir used to protect your mind from abuse.

 

[mickiel]

I have no idea what you're talking about. It sounds like you either need to go to confession or you need to just accept that you are the way you are.

Chaos.

It has not been easy, but I have accepted that I live in the Darkness. It is not in my belief system that a human needs to go to some " Confession", like I think the Catholics do, there is nothing that anyone can " Do" for me, I am where I am. I am in the Darkness and I accept that. In Romans 11:32 it reveals that God himself has " Shut up All in Disobedience", only that he will let them all out one day. I am just one of those he has not let out. I am still locked into my sin.

Peace.

 

[cottage]

One thing about my life I have regretably come to accept, is that I live my life in the Darkness. I had to leave the Church many years ago because I began to understand that I was different than them, I had a lot of sin in me, and it was in me to stay. I was born with sin, and it ruled much of my life. It was also just as easy for me to believe in God, since my memory began, as far back as I can recall. I just always believed in God, that has never been an issue with me, its been easy. But there was something in me that was drawn to sin. The way it made me " Feel", the pull it had has always been more powerful than I. Its just that when I was young, I didnot know what this " Darkness was." This " Thing inside of me", this influence that kept hurting me, rotting my sucesses and knocking me down. I didnot understand that this " Force" was indeed Great!

In Matthews 6:23, Jesus himself gives an astounding teaching;"But if your eye is bad, your whole body is full of Darkness. If therefore the Light in you is Darkness, how Great is the Darkness!" If what is really leading you, is this Great Darkness, then the Darkness is your Master. Its what has you. And it has had me all of my life. It has never taken away my belief in God, but it has continually asserted its dominance over me. I understand what the Great King David meant when he asked God not to let his sin have dominion over him.

But I wanted to give an inside view of this Great Darkness, because I live in it each day.

Peace.

Might this be a case of major, ie clinical, depression that you are suffering?

 

[mickiel]

'The Darkness' you describe is a psychological behavoir used to protect your mind from abuse.

Well its something more powerful than I, I know that. But I do believe it causes psychological disorders, the Darkness certainly does that, I hold enough of these Psyco thinking problems to know. I have been a bit crazy all my life. Its simply the Power of the Darkness, its far Greater than I understood.

Peace.

 

[Wandered Off]

In Romans 11:32 it reveals that God himself has " Shut up All in Disobedience", only that he will let them all out one day. I am just one of those he has not let out.

Well at least you don't have to try to do anything about it then.

 

[mickiel]

Might this be a case of major, ie clinical, depression that you are suffering?

I think that has something to do with it, yes. Depression is certainly one of the Branches of the Darkness. And depression can and does effect literally everyone, thus we can see the Great influence of the Darkness. I have been depressed, off and on, for 40 years running. This is why this Darkness is so Powerful, it can infect you with things that will be with you all of your life, but yet not take away your life. And then yet, it could do that to people, it can kill too!

Peace.

 

[AlsoAnima]

Well its something more powerful than I, I know that. But I do believe it causes psychological disorders, the Darkness certainly does that, I hold enough of these Psyco thinking problems to know. I have been a bit crazy all my life. Its simply the Power of the Darkness, its far Greater than I understood.

Peace.

Not really. It gives the illusion of being great because you refuse to deal with it. It's much like when you were young and could not control your temper, your emotions controlled you, and then you learned to control them. For instance, I can't feel what others are feeling, I can't empathize. However, I've learned that when others experience something they think is bad, I should be nice to them, because I want people to be nice to me when I experience something bad.

 

[mickiel]

Well at least you don't have to try to do anything about it then.

Oh I have " Tried " all my Life. You just don't know how much I have tried. I have fought it all along the way, have asked God a million times to help me . But I have never been freed from it. I understand a small bit better what Paul meant in Romans 7:15-21. I often do not understand why I do things that I hate. Its not me thats doing it, but this thing in me called sin, or the Darkness. That evil is ever present in me, and I can't shake it man, I have tried.

How can a man remove a part of himself? No, its something God has to perform, and if God does not do it, your just screwed.

Peace.

 

[mickiel]

Not really. It gives the illusion of being great because you refuse to deal with it. quote]


For you to say that I refuse to deal with it, affords me the realization that you do not know me or understand me. And I am not obligated to convince you that I have not refused to deal with it. I understand that there are Greater things, greater Powers that exist, which I am simply no match for, no matter what " I do."

I consider God and the Darkness, as two examples of those things.

Peace.

 

[mickiel]

In Revelations 12:9, an example of what Jesus meant by refering to the Darkness as being Great, is shown; It speaks of the " Great Dragon" being thrown down, it then calls him " The Serpent of Old", so its Great and Old. It says this Great Dragon is called the Devil and Satan, but then it says he has " Deceived the WHOLE WORLD!" So whatever this thing is, this Prince of Darkness, its old and very Powerful. And its influence has covered this entire planet.

Now if this stuff is real, its just some serious power being discussed here. Power that can infect human life. So just how Great is this Darkness?

Peace.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

You're so goth.

 

[mickiel]

You're so goth.

No, Goth is mainly associated with White people, I am not White. My color is closer to the Darkness. My mood is closer to the Darkness. My thinking infected by the Darkness. My life trapped within the Darkness. The Darkness then is a total eclipse of a human, nothing is left alone. Nothing spared.

So its more correct to say I am so Dark.

Peace.

 

[cottage]

I think that has something to do with it, yes. Depression is certainly one of the Branches of the Darkness. And depression can and does effect literally everyone, thus we can see the Great influence of the Darkness. I have been depressed, off and on, for 40 years running. This is why this Darkness is so Powerful, it can infect you with things that will be with you all of your life, but yet not take away your life. And then yet, it could do that to people, it can kill too!

Peace.

I'm sorry to hear you suffer from that wretched condition. While it is my good fortune never to have experienced it myself, I know of several people (my wife included) who have bouts of depression, of varying severity, for no obvious reason. And that's the problem, as you know: there doesn't have to be a reason or a particular cause. Being able to talk to someone who listens (the so-called 'talking cure'), can achieve remarkable results, and is favoured over medication in many cases. I think being lonely, or being alone (and of course you can feel alone even in the company of people) can bring on or exacerbate the condition. So good friends, ones you can talk to and who understand the condition, are an asset. I hope better times lie ahead for you.

Regards
Cottage

 

[Kilgore Trout]

No, Goth is mainly associated with White people, I am not White. My color is closer to the Darkness. My mood is closer to the Darkness. My thinking infected by the Darkness. My life trapped within the Darkness. The Darkness then is a total eclipse of a human, nothing is left alone. Nothing spared.

So its more correct to say I am so Dark.

Peace.

I'm sorry, but if that isn't goth, then nothing is.

 

[AlsoAnima]

For you to say that I refuse to deal with it, affords me the realization that you do not know me or understand me. And I am not obligated to convince you that I have not refused to deal with it. I understand that there are Greater things, greater Powers that exist, which I am simply no match for, no matter what " I do."

I consider God and the Darkness, as two examples of those things.

Peace.

Denial is common, especially when a persons psychological problems are pointed out.

You make yourself too small in your mind, you put limits on yourself in order to defend youself from a percieved threat. The Darkness is not real, but a personalification of your problem, you make it large with your mind, when really it is just a fraction of a single person.

 

[mickiel]

I'm sorry to hear you suffer from that wretched condition. While it is my good fortune never to have experienced it myself, I know of several people (my wife included) who have bouts of depression, of varying severity, for no obvious reason. And that's the problem, as you know: there doesn't have to be a reason or a particular cause. Being able to talk to someone who listens (the so-called 'talking cure'), can achieve remarkable results, and is favoured over medication in many cases. I think being lonely, or being alone (and of course you can feel alone even in the company of people) can bring on or exacerbate the condition. So good friends, ones you can talk to and who understand the condition, are an asset. I hope better times lie ahead for you.

Regards
Cottage

Thank you very, very much.

Peace toward you.

 

[mickiel]

Denial is common,
The Darkness is not real, .

This is where I disagree with you, the Darkness is Real, it is really you who are in denial. The Darkness is real, and its in every place on this planet, and its in me. Thats how I know its real, it lives in me. Its real to me.

And it has proven itself over, and over and over again. Every time I climb the ladder of success, its showed up to knock me back down. Its even become predictable, I see simular patterns, it does it almost the same way every time. It even gets into my dreams.

Peace.

 

[Autodidact]

Oh I have " Tried " all my Life. You just don't know how much I have tried. I have fought it all along the way, have asked God a million times to help me . But I have never been freed from it. I understand a small bit better what Paul meant in Romans 7:15-21. I often do not understand why I do things that I hate. Its not me thats doing it, but this thing in me called sin, or the Darkness. That evil is ever present in me, and I can't shake it man, I have tried.

How can a man remove a part of himself? No, its something God has to perform, and if God does not do it, your just screwed.

Peace.

Maybe you should try something other than God.