Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe it becomes obvious that you never knew Him. I told a pastor that once and he responded that he knew Jesus from the Bible. That isn't a personal relationship.
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How in the world can ANYBODY think the Jews and Christians have the same god, that Jesus is messiah?
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I believe it becomes obvious that you never knew Him. I told a pastor that once and he responded that he knew Jesus from the Bible. That isn't a personal relationship.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe that confirms what I said.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
It is both hypocritical and morally repugnant for you to make such a claim. You simply do not know what was going on in my mind but are so pathetically arrogant and judgmental that you believe you can. Jesus said "judge ye not...", but somehow you not only feel qualified to judge, and you clearly do not believe in what Jesus said.
I would suggest that there's a difference between believing about Jesus but not in him, so would suggest you do the latter. You might also reread the Parable of the Sheep and Goats, and also the Parable of the Sower and the Seed because there's lessons in both that you seemingly have missed.
Domenic
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I am a writer of fiction. The above are things in question, things of truth. They are a greater mystery than ever written in fiction. The story of conflict, not between man, and things unseen, but a war between a living God, and a rebel Angel.
Enoch is in the scriptures three times. He is said to have been a man loved by God…Yet his writings were left out when the Bible was compiled. Enoch was the seventh from Adam, and the great grandfather of Noah. He wrote not for those of his time, but for those of ours. He recorded the names of the 200 angels who left the third Heaven, took the daughters of man, and had off springs…the giants. He also records the things these 200 gave to man.
Noah was the last good man of God before the flood. The Bible not only records his time before, and during the great world flood, it tells of his time after the flood. After the flood Noah grew grapes, made wine, and got drunk. As he lay drunk, Ca’naan saw his father’s nakedness.
Genesis 9:22 “Ham the father of Ca’naan saw his father’s nakedness.” God has his way of hiding in the scriptures things he knows the Tares will change. Religious leaders teach the story ends here. But there is more. Hang on to your seats…I’m going to take you on a mind blowing ride with one scripture: Leviticus 18:8 “The nakedness of your father’s wife you must not lay bare, it is your father’s nakedness.”
This scripture makes it clear, Ham had sex with his own mother. Noah lived 350 years after the flood, but had no other children. How did Noah come to find out what Ham had done? Ham was of the dark skin. Ham had a son, Ca’naan, who was also of the dark skin. When Noah learned what Ham had done, he put a curse on Hams son Ca’naan. Why would he do that? Are the scriptures suggesting Noah’s wife gave birth to Ca’naan? After Ca’naan was born, the family split up. There had to be a very big family fight. Noah’s two other sons knew what Ham had done, but never told their father…they covered it up. The three sons and their wives went off in different directions. It is not recorded if Noah’s wife stayed with Noah, or went with one of her sons. For whatever reason, Noah had no other children.
I would suggest those who have an interest in scriptures read the book of enoch.
Christians, Hebrews, Jews, Samaritans, false Jews, Masoretic text, Dead Sea Scrolls, Septuagint, Jesus, Wheat and Tares, Fools, Sinners, Sperm, False Gods, Demons, Enoch, Nakedness, Trickery, Deception, Truth, Babylon, Khazars, False Religions, Conflict of text, Oldest to newest manuscripts…
I am a writer of fiction. The above are things in question, things of truth. They are a greater mystery than ever written in fiction. The story of conflict, not between man, and things unseen, but a war between a living God, and a rebel Angel.
Enoch is in the scriptures three times. He is said to have been a man loved by God…Yet his writings were left out when the Bible was compiled. Enoch was the seventh from Adam, and the great grandfather of Noah. He wrote not for those of his time, but for those of ours. He recorded the names of the 200 angels who left the third Heaven, took the daughters of man, and had off springs…the giants. He also records the things these 200 gave to man.
Noah was the last good man of God before the flood. The Bible not only records his time before, and during the great world flood, it tells of his time after the flood. After the flood Noah grew grapes, made wine, and got drunk. As he lay drunk, Ca’naan saw his father’s nakedness.
Genesis 9:22 “Ham the father of Ca’naan saw his father’s nakedness.” God has his way of hiding in the scriptures things he knows the Tares will change. Religious leaders teach the story ends here. But there is more. Hang on to your seats…I’m going to take you on a mind blowing ride with one scripture: Leviticus 18:8 “The nakedness of your father’s wife you must not lay bare, it is your father’s nakedness.”
This scripture makes it clear, Ham had sex with his own mother. Noah lived 350 years after the flood, but had no other children. How did Noah come to find out what Ham had done? Ham was of the dark skin. Ham had a son, Ca’naan, who was also of the dark skin. When Noah learned what Ham had done, he put a curse on Hams son Ca’naan. Why would he do that? Are the scriptures suggesting Noah’s wife gave birth to Ca’naan? After Ca’naan was born, the family split up. There had to be a very big family fight. Noah’s two other sons knew what Ham had done, but never told their father…they covered it up. The three sons and their wives went off in different directions. It is not recorded if Noah’s wife stayed with Noah, or went with one of her sons. For whatever reason, Noah had no other children.
I would suggest those who have an interest in scriptures read the book of enoch.
Flankerl
Well-Known Member
You claimed Jews don't name their child Yoshua or Yehoshua. Which is simply untrue as even Hasidics have named their child so.
I know it must be hard but don't be sad about it.
RabbiO
הרב יונה בן זכריה
You're assuming things about the authorship of the Book of Enoch. Why?
Domenic
Active Member
You can start here:
1. Brenton's Septuagint: English Translation - Logos Bible Software
https://www.logos.com/product/16106Cached
Overview. This volume contains Lancelot Charles Lee Brenton’stranslation of the Septuagint Old Testament. The translation uses the Codex Vaticanus as its base text
rosends
Well-Known Member
So the Septuagint is the mysterious set of scrolls you keep alluding to?
And here I thought you had something reasonable in mind.
Harmonious
Well-Known Member
I'm mad at him for being intellectually dishonest and treating us like fools because we haven't seen his vaunted scrolls.
Domenic
Active Member
False servants have tried for over 2,000 years to destroy Gods word. It is impossible. Gods word will destroy those who try. There is a reason Jesus came when he did, where he did. He knew the tares would have him killed, and he came to die. The reason why he died he has kept secret from those tares.
Harmonious
Well-Known Member
People bearing false messages and false prophecies have tried for over 3327 years to destroy God's word, God's people, and God's people's faith in His word.
People come, people go. But the Torah is eternal. God's promises are eternal. And things will happen in their time.
And Jesus is, frankly, irrelevant to everyone, unless they want to believe him to be relevant to them.
Harmonious
Well-Known Member
See how that works?
BilliardsBall
Veteran Member
Why did Abraham serve G_d a milk appetizer, then make him wait for hours to have (cold) meat? Why was Abraham so rude, and G_d so patient?
Pick an answer, any answer.
Pick an answer, any answer.
Akivah
Well-Known Member
You know that event took place during the day in a desert right? How could the meat that Abe served, be cold?
Akivah
Well-Known Member
How do you know that your English language Septaugint is the most accurate biblical text of all?
Domenic
Active Member
The Septuagint is much older than the Torah, and the two do not match. When Jesus was here as a human the Jews rejected him. They still do. What is strange, the Jews of Hollywood have made many movies about Jesus, "The Robe, The ten Commandments, etc. Why do they make movies about Jesus if they don't believe what they put into these movies...is it just for money?
Domenic
Active Member
How do you know the Torah is? Have you ever wondered why the Septuagint, and Torah do not match? Where did the Torah come from? Many have said, "From here, and there," but history shows different. They have found in Jewish graves, little clay false Egyptian gods. Were these graves of true Jews, or false Jews? History shows the false Jews were there. Did they go away, or are they still there? Some speak of headstones with the cross of David (the sun god) on them. Would these be real, or false Jews? it is against Gods law for his people to loan money for interest. Would a true Jew do that?
I was born into a Catholic family. By the age of 9 I knew something was wrong. I had to relearn Gods word, and test it. The nation that was born in 1948 was not born of Gods people, and it will not stand. Many there are Gods people, but who they are following are not. Question everything. Keep going to God for the truth, he holds nothing back from his people.
Kolibri
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Ham's sin was the not showing proper respect for Noah but in telling his brothers about the discovery. The major sin was not Ham's but his son Cannan as it was this grandson that got the curse - not Ham, nor his other sons, Cush, Mizraim, and Put. Ham was neither blessed nor cursed. Ham (including his other 3 sons) was neglected since he showed neglect. (Ge 9:25-27)
You are correct in that Le 18:8 does connect exposure to nakedness as a metaphor for a sexual sin, but that thought is not limited to that verse about a father's wife. Actually all of Le 18:6-19 and 20:17 use this metaphor. It is much more probable that Cannan committed or attempted some abuse of his unconscious grandfather directly; and that Ham, though having knowledge of this, failed either to prevent it or to take disciplinary action against his son, and compounded the wrong by making known to his brothers Noah's disgrace.
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Harmonious
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Perhaps you just don't know, but according to the laws of Kashrut, which Abraham didn't have to follow, the wait time between milk and meat is far shorter than that between meat and milk.
Harmonious
Well-Known Member
You are preaching your belief.
Feel free to do so. But it is only belief. Your conclusion may be satisfactory to you, but keep in mind - it is only your belief.