How is morality defined? What is right and wrong?

[waitasec]

but is morality and ethics the same thing?

i don't think so

morals reflect a personal view
ethics reflect societies view as a whole

 

[Thief]

In order act using logic, cause and effect, evidence, etc we must have intent. There must be reasoning present and we must consider the consequences. To use these qualities successfully means that our intent is actualized. If I act and consequences arise that I did not intend then I did not understand the full scope of my actions. If I did not understand the full scope of my action then I did not fully apply cause and effect. Thus a better moral decision will have existed.

I might agree....so quote post #62...and consider the consequences.

 

[Curious George]

I might agree....so quote post #62...and consider the consequences.

You do understand that I was considering the implications of another person's argument?

I had not stated my view

Save, in relation to perspective
on that other argument

By the sword.
relative.
subjective.

perhaps-
but certainly not the only one!

not plausibly speaking anyhow.
Sure, we can say, in the end,
only one truth will prevail

Yet, if one of us
guesses correctly
but argues incorrectly
who could blame the others
for thumbing their noses?

 

[FlyingTeaPot]

And yet there are a vast number of defines moralities the world over.
Thus the REASON morality is subjective...


Morality of generation seems a bit worthless when you stop and consider the vast number of moralities each generation has.

Yup. :yes:

 

[Thief]

You do understand that I was considering the implications of another person's argument?

I had not stated my view

Save, in relation to perspective
on that other argument

By the sword.
relative.
subjective.

perhaps-
but certainly not the only one!

not plausibly speaking anyhow.
Sure, we can say, in the end,
only one truth will prevail

Yet, if one of us
guesses correctly
but argues incorrectly
who could blame the others
for thumbing their noses?

Indeed! and who is worthy to stand before heaven?

So..did you actually consider?
If you ARE able to enter, and no one objects....
It could then be your turn to watch the door....
and a sword will be handed to you.

Right and wrong as seen and dealt by you?

Yet it remains written....
'Better to be a doorkeep in the house of my God
than to dwell in the tents of wickedness'.

 

[Curious George]

Indeed! and who is worthy to stand before heaven?

So..did you actually consider?
If you ARE able to enter, and no one objects....
It could then be your turn to watch the door....
and a sword will be handed to you.

Right and wrong as seen and dealt by you?

Yet it remains written....
'Better to be a doorkeep in the house of my God
than to dwell in the tents of wickedness'.

Why the chosen!...If they are...by a choice, of course-
Yet, is it really theirs?
And is this really mine?

Perhaps again you are mistaken...
On that which I lay claim...For...
Neither in tent nor house:
Have I called myself judge.

 

[Thief]

Why the chosen!...If they are...by a choice, of course-
Yet, is it really theirs?
And is this really mine?

Perhaps again you are mistaken...
On that which I lay claim...For...
Neither in tent nor house:
Have I called myself judge.

Even the Carpenter had no desire of a crown.
Of Himself, He did say...'brother and fellow servant'.

Yet so many of this world desire it to be so, that He be king.
First they claim to lay their faults unto Him....
and then claim He will be kind about it...later on.

Judgment?....yeah.
You cannot walk among angels without it.

Chosen?...yeah again.
The angelic choose who will follow and who will be left behind.
Their choice.....not ours.

 

[Curious George]

Their choice.....not ours.

Very different than your earlier ode.

 

[Thief]

Very different than your earlier ode.

Show me.

 

[Curious George]

This

Morality is relative....

It is given to you to deal with indiscretion, and what you allow to pass,
will affect everyone else's peace.

So....the knock at the door...and someone of indiscretion enters.
You've got the sword.
It's your call.

versus

Yet so many of this world desire it to be so, that He be king.
First they claim to lay their faults unto Him....
and then claim He will be kind about it...later on.

Judgment?....yeah.
You cannot walk among angels without it.

Chosen?...yeah again.
The angelic choose who will follow and who will be left behind.
Their choice.....not ours.

 

[waitasec]

:spit:

 

[Thief]

This.... versus

So you didn't see the similarity?

As you are now, you are developing a sense of judgment.
Eventually this opportunity will pass.

When you stand from the dust, they will decide if they want you to follow.
Their choice.

If you follow, it's because you have some grace about you, and your presence can be trusted.

So, if your position (later on) becomes as their position....
If you say as they say...do as they do...
It will come your way to decide if the next guy will follow you.
It will be your decision to allow entry...or forbid.

As it is written....
What you declare loose on earth shall be loose in heaven.
What you declare bound on earth shall be bound in heaven.

It's your word...as you see fit.
And it's your judgment that determines.....your next step.
Can you be trusted to follow?
Will you ever be trusted with a sword?

 

[Curious George]

So you didn't see the similarity?

As you are now, you are developing a sense of judgment.

ironic? no?
to judge one as a judge....

seems funny.
but hey, who am I?
just a wondering piece of dust?
a kernel of truth floating on seas of uncertainty?
or perhaps...by chance...maybe-
something more

Cheers Thief

 

[jasonwill2]

Even the Carpenter had no desire of a crown.
Of Himself, He did say...'brother and fellow servant'.

Because he already claimed to have one? If he was the Son of God, wouldn't he be the prince to the king, and already have a very high place in the kingdom of Yahweh?

 

[Thief]

Because he already claimed to have one? If he was the Son of God, wouldn't he be the prince to the king, and already have a very high place in the kingdom of Yahweh?

A quick comparison of one gospel to another...and you will see....
He never wanted a crown on His head.
He did leave the vicinity when such talk arose.

It is the religious who insist their Inspiration must also be their king.
His own disciples, and any follower, to this day....insist.

But of Himself He did say...'brother and fellow servant'.
His followers and believers should leave it as such.

 

[jasonwill2]

A quick comparison of one gospel to another...and you will see....
He never wanted a crown on His head.
He did leave the vicinity when such talk arose.

It is the religious who insist their Inspiration must also be their king.
His own disciples, and any follower, to this day....insist.

But of Himself He did say...'brother and fellow servant'.
His followers and believers should leave it as such.

Then he is a liar?

 

[greenfish77]

Sometimes morality does not come from society or our parents. Sometimes our views differ strongly from our parents and society.

 

[Prophet]

If you search the Bible for the words "hypocrite" and "hypocrisy" you will find many of Jesus most profound teachings on the nature of good and evil. Understand that, on the surface, all hypocrites fake the quality of selflessness while remaining selfish in motive for all that they say or do.

 

[Thief]

Then he is a liar?

If someone misunderstands you.....you become a liar?

I see the disciples of the Carpenter lacking understanding....to the very last hour.
That doesn't mean He lied.

 

[arhys]

A Christian might say that morality is defined by Genesis 1:27: "So God created man in his own image [...]"

Charles Darwin, of all people: "A moral being is one who is capable of reflecting on his past actions and their motives - of approving of some and disapproving of others."

Morality in man is a higher instinct - one of those gifts of God which separates our nature from those of the dumb beasts of the field - forethought, retrospect, reflection, probability, and strategy, to name a few others.