How many 'Sons' does God have?

[Yusz]

How many 'Sons' does God have?

In spirituality, all human is son of God :yes:..

 

[Thief]

In spirituality, all human is son of God :yes:..

I can't go that far.
Some people perform other than holy.

I would refrain.
I suspect the angels will show disapproval....and might do so with sword in hand.

 

[bnabernard]

I tend to get bogged down with uncreated life, ie, if God is life, omnipresent, everlasting, infinite, then man is created but has a lease on life?

bernard (hug)

 

[Sha'irullah]

Son in regards to Hebrew is quite metaphorical and especially within Jewish tradition and etymology. If it is written in Exodus that god begot a son then surely the Jews would accept it as they hold the Taurat and Tanak which is the canon text yet somehow they hold a different conclusion. Son just means creation and should not be taken in such a literal context. It is no different then how I call my custom created computer "my child". It is just an expression that has long since been used to display the closeness of the creator towards his creation.

 

[bnabernard]

Given the omnipresence of life/God and using the computor as a scant reference, could we say that man exists in life rather than life exists in man?

bernard (hug)

 

[Enki2]

Problem, the Nephlin only had their flesh destroyed, they were allowed to exist as spirits without fles, Why, because they had not transgressed against God, they had been taught by their fathers the fallen angels, there was no laws brocken by the sons of the fallen angels and they acted in ignorance using their superiority in the same way as man does over animals.

They the spirits are given a period of time to come to terms with the truth and reject the ways of their fathers and satan.

Yeshua like John the baptist, are reincarnations of Adam and Elijah, Adam had to show that he can stand up to temptation as he was not the one originaly tempted by satan.

Unfortunately a great deal of the spirits just don't get it and they still think that they can make a stand and govern themselves and have no need to heed their father in creation.
Just as unfortunate is they have dispute among themselves.

bernard (hug)

AAHH Bernard: Nephlin means "Those who came from above came", God forbid any God, Elohim (plural) or his sons to mate or reproduce with earth women. Would the creating spirit have VIOLATED IT'S OWN ORDINANCES, to impregnate a legally married woman. Churches teach against reincarnation, even though Jesus stated that John the Baptist was Elijah reborn and they recognized it not. The bible teaches that the children of the fallen ones were evil and were devouring the world, so IT brought on the great flood. BUT it also state that there was Noah and his group and there as

Christmas past was a day to relieve the heavy work load of the poor. It was a day off for them and a day of generosity. To not be letting workers off and to not be giving to the poor that day was a bad social move. Doesn't anyone here watch old movies?????

on the earth before and after the flood. SO how did they survive the flood? The Bible teaches that the fallen ones were buried in darkness until end of time, Every biblical quote indicates that they expected the events to happen shortly or with in a generation or so, yet thousands of years have passed and it still hasn't been fulfilled.

 

[starlite]

The expression “Son of God” primarily identifies Christ Jesus. Others referred to as “son(s) of God” include intelligent spirit creatures produced by God, the man Adam before he sinned, and humans with whom God has dealt on the basis of covenant relationship. The entire nation of Israel was viewed by God as his “son” because of being his chosen people, a “special property, out of all the peoples.”

Jesus is not merely God’s unique Son but also his “only-begotten Son,” as he descended from God in the sense of being produced by God. This is confirmed by apostolic references to this Son as “the firstborn of all creation” and as “the One born [form of gen·na′o] from God” (Col 1:15; 1Jo 5:18), while Jesus himself states that he is “the beginning of the creation by God.”—Re 3:14.

Jesus is the “only-begotten Son” in that he is the only one of God’s sons, spirit or human, created solely by God, for all others were created through, or “by means of,” that firstborn Son.

Colossians 1:16, 17

16 because by means of him all other things were created in the heavens and on the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All other things have been created through him and for him. 17 Also, he is before all other things, and by means of him all other things were made to exist

 

[Blackmarch]

How many 'Sons' does God have?


Many people tell us "but the Bible clearly says that Jesus is the Son of God. How can you say that Jesus is not God's only begotten son when Jesus says it so clearly in black and white in the Bible?" Well, first of all, we need to know the language of his people, the language of the Jews to whom he was speaking. Let us see how they understood this proclamation.

Let us begin by asking: How many sons does the Bible tell us that God Almighty has?

Jacob is God's son and firstborn: "Israel is my son, even my firstborn" [Exodus 4:22]

Solomon is God's son "He shall build an house for my name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom for ever. I will be his father, and he shall be my son": 2 [Samuel 7:13-14]

Ephraim is God's firstborn: "for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn" [Jeremiah 31:9] (who is God's firstborn? Israel or Ephraim?).

Adam is the son of God "Adam, which was the son of God" [Luke 3:38].

Common people (you and me) are the sons of God:
"Ye are the children of the LORD your God" [Deuteronomy 14:1].
"For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God" [Romans 8:14].
"But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name" [John 1:12].
"That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;" [Philippians 2:15].
"Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: ... now are we the sons of God" 1 [John 3:1-2].
"When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?" [Job 38:7].
"Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD" [Job 2:1].
"Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD" [Job 1:6].
"when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men," [Genesis 6:4].
"That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they [were] fair" [Genesis 6:2].

As we can see, the use of the term "son of God" when describing normal human beings was not at all an uncommon practice among Jesus' people.

Well then, was Jesus the only begotten son of God?

Read Psalms 2:7 : "I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me (King David, King), Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee"

Indeed, the Jews are even referred to as much more than this in the Bible, and this is indeed the very trait which Jesus (pbuh) held against them. When the Jews picked up stones to stone Jesus (pbuh) he defended himself with the following words
"Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, 'I said, Ye are gods?' If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken..." [John 10:34]

(he was referring to Psalms 82:6 "I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High..") As we can see from these and many other verses like them, "son of God" in the language of the Jews was a very innocent term used to describe a loyal servant of God. Whether the translators and editors chose to write it as "Son of God" (with a capital S) in reference to Jesus and "son of God" (with a small S) in reference to everyone else does not diminish the fact that in the original language, both cases are exactly the same. Are we beginning to see what drove the most learned men of the Anglican Church to recognize the truth? But let us move on.

Grolier's encyclopedia, under the heading "Jesus Christ," says:
"During his earthly life Jesus was addressed as rabbi and was regarded as a prophet. Some of his words, too, place him in the category of sage. A title of respect for a rabbi would be "my Lord." Already before Easter his followers, impressed by his authority, would mean something more than usual when they addressed him as "my Lord.".... it is unlikely that the title "Son of David" was ascribed to him or accepted by him during his earthly ministry. "Son of God," in former times a title of the Hebrew kings (Psalms 2:7), was first adopted in the post-Easter church as an equivalent of Messiah and had no metaphysical connotations (Romans 1:4). Jesus was conscious of a unique filial relationship with God, but it is uncertain whether the Father/Son language (Mark 18:32; Matt. 11:25-27 par.; John passim) goes back to Jesus himself" .

There seems to be only two places in the Bible where Jesus (pbuh) refers to himself as "son of God." They are in John chapters 5 and 11. Hastings in "The dictionary of the Bible" says: "Whether Jesus used it of himself is doubtful." Regardless, we have already seen what is meant by this innocent title. However, Jesus is referred to as the "son of Man" (literally: "Human being") 81 times in the books of the Bible. In the Gospel of Barnabas, we are told that Jesus (pbuh) knew that mankind would make him a god after his departure and severely cautioned his followers from having anything to do with such people.

Jesus was not the son of a human man (according to both the Bible and the Qur'an). However, we find him constantly saying "I am the son of man." Why?. It was because in the language of the Jews, that is how you say "I am a human being."

What was he trying to tell us by constantly repeating and emphasizing to us throughout the New Testament "I am a human being," "I am a human being," "I am a human being"?. What had he foreseen? Think about it!.

Do Christians emphasize this aspect of Jesus? The New Testament Greek word translated as "son" are "pias" and "paida" which mean "servant," or "son in the sense of servant." These are translated to "son" in reference to Jesus and "servant" in reference to all others in some translations of the Bible (see below). As we are beginning to see, one of the most fundamental reasons why Jesus (pbuh) is considered God is due to extensive mistranslation. We shall see more and more examples of this throughout this book.

Islam teaches that Jesus (pbuh) was a human being, not a God. Jesus (peace be upon him) continually emphasized this to his followers throughout his mission. The Gospel of Barnabas also affirms this fact. Once again, Grolier's encyclopedia says:

"...Most problematical of all is the title "Son of Man." This is the only title used repeatedly by Jesus as a self-designation, and there is no clear evidence that it was used as a title of majesty by the post-Easter church. Hence it is held by many to be authentic, since it passes the criterion of dissimilarity."

Humans were created in the likeness of a perfect human.
We are all sons and daughters. the only difference about Christ was that he was first and by him can mercy work within the bounds of justice.

 

[starlite]

This is what I have learned. Jesus many times referred to himself as “the Son of man,” using the expression that occurs about 80 times in the Gospels. This expression indicates that he was fully human and not God incarnate. It also showed that he was not a materialized angel. By identifying himself this way, he highlighted his human birth—the fact that he was truly a man. Jesus' being called the “Son of man” calls attention to his being of the human race by virtue of his fleshly birth; his being called the “Son of God” stresses his being of divine origin, not descended from the sinner Adam or inheriting imperfection from him but having a fully righteous standing with God. Therefore, Jesus alone was able to stand as the ransom sacrifice...the perfect exchange for the once perfect Adam. In this way, our sins can be forgiven and God's original purpose for the earth will be fulfilled.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Two each, Shiva has Ganesha and Kartikeya. Ganesha has two, Labha and Shubha. The sun God also has two, Yama and Shani (Saturn).

Krishna had many more: "Out of 16.108 wives of Krishna, every wife had 10 children who had the same nature of Krishna! Thus, Krishna had totally 1,61,080 Children. Let us see the list of the 80 children born through the first 8 wives!"
Does Lord Krishna had any children which later became his successor?

 

[starlite]

Two each, Shiva has Ganesha and Kartikeya. Ganesha has two, Labha and Shubha. The sun God also has two, Yama and Shani (Saturn).

Krishna had many more: "Out of 16.108 wives of Krishna, every wife had 10 children who had the same nature of Krishna! Thus, Krishna had totally 1,61,080 Children. Let us see the list of the 80 children born through the first 8 wives!"
Does Lord Krishna had any children which later became his successor?

Very interesting...thank you for sharing

 

[Aupmanyav]

Lord Krishna was born in Vrishni sub-clan of Yadus. The equivalent today are the Varshneyas, and Yadavas who make a sizable percentage of Indian population.