exchemist
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How to Be a Gintleman?
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I became an involuntary gin drinker. My ex was an angry drunk, and if I brought home any kind of booze, he'd drink it.... except gin. It grew on me.
I didn't typically drink the cheap stuff straight, but it seemed a sin to mix Bombay Sapphire, which was expensive, and something I only got on very special occasions.
exchemist
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Then you have had 2 x .275 x 15 ~ 8 units of alcohol. (I unit is 10g alcohol)
That is a lot, equivalent to about 3/4 bbl wine, and I would stop there if I were you, unless it is very long evening and you are eating as well. And especially if you are a woman (your profile doesn't seem to say).
I've had evenings in my life at which I've consumed that much but for me, as a 67kg man, 8 units was* definitely a "skinful".
*Nowadays, due to my susceptibility to heart arrhythmia (AFib) I limit myself to 3-4 units in an evening - and then not more than 3 times per week.
I think it's a good idea to keep track of your units. A bottle of wine is about 10 units and a pint of 4% beer is 2 units. 6 units in a session is enough for plenty of merriment, without a hangover provided you drink plenty of water. (The French try to drink a glass of water for every glass of wine and I find that is a good practice.)
exchemist
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Bombay Sapphire was one my favourites. I used to enjoy a dry martini on Friday nights. But one of those is already ~3 units, so nowadays that would be my lot for the evening. Usually I prefer to save my units for wine with the meal.
I haven't had any in years. Bombay Sapphire on the rocks used to be my bar drink(waaaaay back in the days I actually went to such establishments), though I did encounter one bar that, despite having several drinks, I wasn't even tipsy. I went back and told them to leave the rocks out. I got a lot of attitude about it, and I suspect the drinks they had been mixing were mostly rock with little booze. But I wasn't paying $6 a glass for water.
exchemist
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I should think not, indeed!
Later this year, I'm hoping to get a catheter ablation to burn away the short-circuits in my heart that cause the AFib. Who knows, if it's successful I may be able to tackle the odd dry martini again. But I'd better keep schtum about that with the doctor............... But pro tem there is no gin in the house. As an aperitif now I usually stick to kir, since that is wine based, so a glass is ~1 unit.
I'm not familiar with kir.
I take it alcohol has a pretty big effect on AFib, then? That concerns me a little... my mom wound up in the hospital a few days ago, and was diagnosed with AFib. She drinks like a fish.
exchemist
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That could well be why, yes. Alcohol is definitely one of the well-known factors that can induce it in susceptible people. You don't have to cut it out entirely, but it helps if you are careful.
As I say, I've found by trial and error that if I stay below 4 units on a given night and don't drink at all on 3 nights per week, I don't get much trouble (though I'm afraid that it seems my singing can also trigger it, so I've stopped that for now, until I can get some beta blockers.) Another thing that can bring it on is "rest and digest" i.e. going to bed after a heavy meal. My episodes have always come on in the night, waking me from sleep about midnight and usually passing off spontaneously after I get up in the morning. Usually some combination of singing, eating late and/or alcohol the previous evening is involved.
Its interesting what triggers these things... I've noticed I get more 'fluttery' as the evening goes on, though my arrhythmias are benign. I remember you had said at one point you were curious on whether or not singing caused it; I'm guessing from this response it does. Food kinda gives me the flutters, too, but its usually quite mild, and nothing that's going to discourage me from eating...
As for Mom, I'm afraid she has numerous vodka/Pepsi drinks per night(I'd guess between 3-7, depending on how her daily bar trip goes), and I don't see that stopping anytime soon. They did put her on some meds for it, though; beta blockers, I assume.
Two bottles too many of the wrong stuff imo,gin was called “mothers ruin” when I was a kid as it’s a depressant.
In answer to “what does it take to be a real gentleman “,I was raised to be one lol but here’s a breakdown:
honour
Etiquette
Timing
Timing?
exchemist
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I can't prove it is the singing, and my cardiologist says there isn't any data to support it, but then there wouldn't be, since there won't be enough people who sing and get AF to make a decent sample for trials. But he did say he had a trumpet player who thought it was playing that did it. And one of my choir directors knew a tenor singer who found it did it - used to get an episode in the night following a concert, just like me. I reckon something to do with pressure from the diaphragm.
AF is not usually life-threatening but the risk is of stroke: if you have it for several days continuously, you can get a blood clot in the atrium that is not beating properly which can detach and , er, move around...... So an anticoagulant is a good idea. I'm due to get some of that too. The modern ones are very good: much safer and more manageable than Warfarin.
But your mum would do well to watch the booze a bit, if she can. I'm mainly a wine drinker and I have found a good system to allow me to open a bottle and drink it in known volumes over a period of a week, without it deteriorating due to being opened. I decant into screw-top quarter bottles which I fill to the top so very little air is left to oxidise it, and keep them in the fridge (to slow down the rate of reaction) until I am ready to let one warm up for drinking. So I drink a quarter of a bottle at a time (~2.5 units) and find the taste is fresh for a week or more.
But if she's on the vodka and coke/pepsi she will need to use less vodka. I have one of those cocktail shaker things with a measuring cap which is 25ml. That is 10g of alcohol for any standard spirit that is 40% i.e.1 unit of alcohol. If she measures with that she can keep track of what she is drinking and control it.
AF is no fun, so worth making a bit of an effort, I think.
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Is it poetry or is it real? If it is poetry it is good and funny. If it is real, it is worrisome and very sad. I tried to kill myself once by drinking too much. All that I did was hit my head on the back of the rocking chair.
One should make sure the lady arrives first and not the gentleman
No. Lol. Might as well keep going.
exchemist
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Reminds me: it has been said that a Scottish gentleman is a man who knows how to play the bagpipes.....but doesn't.
All alcohol is a central nervous system depressant. That's what "depressant" means in that context, not an emotional depressant (although it can have that effect on some).
exchemist
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Easier, I used to find, if the gentleman is not drunk - and doesn't develop a full bladder during the process.
Mix it with maple syrup.
Reminds me: it has been said that a Scottish gentleman is a man who knows how to play the bagpipes.....but doesn't.
sometimes lol.