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How to cure Corona Virus? ! (solution ... maybe)

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stvdv

Veteran Member
How to cure Corona Virus?

Disclaimer and warning: I am not a doctor, but I like to use my brain and take my own responsibility; not trust Big Pharma blindly. AND don't trust me blind either. I am not responsible for what you do with what I have written below.

We could see in Italy an increase of 80% of people killed by the Corona Virus.
That's a very high rate, if it would continue, 70 million people could die in just 57 days.
And 7.8 billion could die in just 81 days. (see the attachment below)

Of course, this is quite a doom scenario, unlikely to happen, but this 80% increase death in Italy shows, that this virus means business. In the news it was already prophesied that from now on every winter we get this virus again. Why winter? Because the virus won't survive easily in the heat. So, it seems easy to kill the virus, just go and sit in a sauna for 1 hour.

For example, Italy has already 2000 death from Corona (800 in just 3 days), whereas India, just has 2 death so far. Italy only has 60 million people, whereas India has 20 times more (1.34 billion). I have been in India many years, mostly over 25 degrees Celsius (in the south). This time a year in the south it used to be quite hot, but that is only 40 degrees Celsius. So, it seems 40 degrees is good to stay virus free maybe (they even say that in summer virus will go. Summer Holland means 25 degrees only.

When I was young I had bronchitis. And my mother made me sit above a bucket with steaming hot water, and a towel over my head, and I had to inhale the hot steam. It did work. I am not a doctor, but maybe bronchitis is also a bacteria or virus (*). So, maybe the simple solution is to use this simple method to kill the virus. Why they don't tell it in the news, I wonder. Maybe it will be bad for business, when they come up with a medicine. I can't think of any other reason. Because if I can come up with such a simple solution, why not all the doctors in the world?

Note: Of course, don't make it too hot, sometimes it felt like I was burning those infected sinuses of mine.

Just some thoughts I had. From now on, I take a daily steam-bath 5 minutes a day; just to be on the safe side I think. Of course this is not scientific, if others can prove me wrong, let's hear it. Or if others have other ideas, let's hear it. I don't believe in Big Pharma giving us always the right answers, especially if they can make big bucks out of it. And to me it seems that all the viruses in recent years is good business for them. But I must admit, I do have trust issues, maybe they are not so much into money business as I think.

(*): Google gave:
Infectious bronchitis usually occurs in the winter due to viruses, including the influenza virus. Even after a viral infection has passed, the irritation of the bronchi can continue to cause symptoms. Infectious bronchitis can also be due to bacteria, especially if it follows an upper respiratory viral infection.

Below what could happen, if, like in Italy, death increase continues with +80% per 3 days.

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Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Some extra information, I will add later on. Have to run an errand now.

I suspect it may help with some of the symptoms and perhaps even help you to survive an infection. The cure however is your own body's defensive systems fighting off the invading virus.

If you can alleviate some of the symptoms, you can give your body enough time to combat the virus and recover. IMO.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
How to cure Corona Virus?

Disclaimer: I am not a doctor, but I like to use my brain and take my own responsibility; not trust Big Pharma blindly. So whatever is written is at your own risk.

We could see in Italy an increase of 80% of people killed by the Corona Virus.
That's a very high rate, if it would continue, 70 million people could die in just 57 days.
And 7.8 billion could die in just 81 days. (see the attachment below)

Of course, this is quite a doom scenario, unlikely to happen, but this 80% increase death in Italy shows, that this virus means business. In the news it was already prophesied that from now on every winter we get this virus again. Why winter? Because the virus won't survive easily in the heat. So, it seems easy to kill the virus, just go and sit in a sauna for 1 hour.

For example, Italy has already 2000 death from Corona (800 in just 3 days), whereas India, just has 2 death so far. Italy only has 60 million people, whereas India has 20 times more (1.34 billion). I have been in India many years, mostly over 25 degrees Celsius (in the south). This time a year in the south it used to be quite hot, but that is only 40 degrees Celsius. So, it seems 40 degrees is good to stay virus free maybe (they even say that in summer virus will go. Summer Holland means 25 degrees only.

When I was young I had bronchitis. And my mother made me sit above a bucket with steaming hot water, and a towel over my head, and I had to inhale the hot steam. It did work. I am not a doctor, but maybe bronchitis is also a bacteria or virus (*). So, maybe the simple solution is to use this simple method to kill the virus. Why they don't tell it in the news, I wonder. Maybe it will be bad for business, when they come up with a medicine. I can't think of any other reason. Because if I can come up with such a simple solution, why not all the doctors in the world?

Note: Of course, don't make it too hot, sometimes it felt like I was burning those infected sinuses of mine.

Just some thoughts I had. From now on, I take a daily steam-bath 5 minutes a day; just to be on the safe side I think. Of course this is not scientific, if others can prove me wrong, let's hear it. Or if others have other ideas, let's hear it. I don't believe in Big Pharma giving us always the right answers, especially if they can make big bucks out of it. And to me it seems that all the viruses in recent years is good business for them. But I must admit, I do have trust issues, maybe they are not so much into money business as I think.

(*): Google gave:


Below what could happen, if, like in Italy, death increase continues with +80% per 3 days.

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These numbers don't make any sense. The whole population of Italy is 60m, the same as the UK. It is perfectly obvious that exponential growth cannot continue indefinitely. It will start to deviate more and more from the exponential curve, as more people become resistant, and as more of the most vulnerable group are killed by it, so that it starts to run out of new people to infect.

As has been said many times, it is expected that something like 1-4% of the population is vulnerable to dying of this disease, not the whole population of Italy. We don't know exactly, because we do not know how many milder cases have not been identified.

The home remedy for bronchitis you are referring to eases the symptoms, but does nothing to arrest the disease. For that, with a virus, you need your own immune system to take care of it, which it will do in time.

I back "Big Pharma" against old wives' tale any day, incidentally.

P.S. Take at look at the curves in this link: "Flattening the curve": Why we need to cancel everything and stay home to help stop coronavirus - CBS News

What you see is that at the very start, the shape is exponential increase. This is where we are now. However, this starts to straighten out into straight-line growth and then flattens, and finally peaks and then declines. You will see that sort of shape with both the number of infections and the number of deaths. What you are doing with your table is taking the exponential curve at the far left of the curve and imagining it goes on like that ad infinitum. It can't and it won't.
 
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Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
nd 7.8 billion could die in just 81 days.
That will not happen. That would exceed the black death by a very large amount. That number you give is the entire global population, a 100% kill rate. That is a fear fueled belief and not one based in fact or logic.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
I suspect it may help with some of the symptoms and perhaps even help you to survive an infection. The cure however is your own body's defensive systems fighting off the invading virus.

If you can alleviate some of the symptoms, you can give your body enough time to combat the virus and recover. IMO.
Yes, that's true, good point. We need a good defense system.
Maybe I should take a few boxing lessons also. Although maybe outward defense system is not related to inward, but I believe everything is related in this organism, our body.
 

HonestJoe

Well-Known Member
We could see in Italy an increase of 80% of people killed by the Corona Virus.
No we couldn’t. That either demonstrates a gross ignorance of basic statistics or a wilful intent to stir up panic.

In the news it was already prophesied that from now on every winter we get this virus again. Why winter? Because the virus won't survive easily in the heat. So, it seems easy to kill the virus, just go and sit in a sauna for 1 hour.
It isn’t quite that simple. While in theory that might help, people with infections will typically get a fever exactly for this reason. Part of the issue isn’t the virus itself but the impact the fever has on the patient, especially if they have underlying health issues. A sauna isn’t really going to help reduce the spread of the virus though, which will be dependent on environmental conditions. Unless we all live in saunas 24-7, it isn’t of much practical use.

When I was young I had bronchitis. And my mother made me sit above a bucket with steaming hot water, and a towel over my head, and I had to inhale the hot steam.
That isn’t about killing the virus, more alleviating the symptoms. You’d feel better because the hot steam would temporarily help clear and open your lungs. It’s unlikely to have a significant impact on any viral infection above and beyond what your body would naturally do to fight it.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
That will not happen. That would exceed the black death by a very large amount. That number you give is the entire global population, a 100% kill rate. That is a fear fueled belief and not one based in fact or logic.
You failed to read correctly.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
You failed to read correctly.
I did. You posted a hypothesis that is based on something that already cannot happen because people are recovering and healing from the virus.
 
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Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I suspect it may help with some of the symptoms and perhaps even help you to survive an infection. The cure however is your own body's defensive systems fighting off the invading virus.

If you can alleviate some of the symptoms, you can give your body enough time to combat the virus and recover. IMO.
Thats my thoughts as well.
 

HonestJoe

Well-Known Member
There was an increase of 80% in Italy in just 3 days.
Italy 50% mortality rate with COVID-19
I ate one apple yesterday and two apples today. That's a 100% increase per day so does that mean in a couple of weeks I'll be eating hundreds of apples a day?

Picking a single data point and blindly assuming it will continue unchanged is unjustified. Infection rates and related mortality rates from this virus (and those like it) follow predictable patterns. The don't endlessly increase exponentially as you're suggesting, the rise, peak and fall naturally.

You'd be able to dishonestly cherry pick an artificial "increase in death rates" from pretty much every country that has suffered from corona-virus and probably most other life-threatening viral pandemics that have ever occurred. None of them have ever escalated in the manner you suggested.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
A sauna isn’t really going to help reduce the spread of the virus though, which will be dependent on environmental conditions. Unless we all live in saunas 24-7, it isn’t of much practical use.
True! That's quite a problem, to sit in a sauna all day.

My Master always called me to south India. I understand now why. Here in Holland, those were the sick month for me. And 24/7 hot Indian temperature kept me safe from these viruses (except once he told me to get the hell out of South India, because Malaria was coming).

Do you know what temperature would make a difference, to keep the virus gone? They do say that coronavirus problem will be in winter. Here we don't have it in summer, even while we only have like 20 degrees Celsius in summer. If the critical temperature would be like 20 or 25 degrees, that would be easy to manage by staying in a warm room. 30 degrees would be a problem already though (and very costly).
 
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