How to cure Corona Virus? ! (solution ... maybe)

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[stvdv]

There are a few things you can do, based on researching what experts have said and consulting with experts for myself.


1. Immune boosting therapy via supplementation. Most people are deficient in the necessary vitamins and minerals to have optimal health.

Specifically what you can do for that:
-For acute infections, intravenous vitamin c done daily, in mega doses, will knock it out. Vitamin c is the fuel of the immune system. This has been known to be an effective treatment for decades for a variety of issues, and is reportedly currently being done in China as the primary means of treating the infection.
-For less serious infections, take 6,000-15,000mg spaced out over the course of the day. Taking vitamin C every hour or two. Taking it all at once has exponentially diminishing returns because the gut puts a limit on how much ascorbic acid is transferred into the bloodstream; so most of it will go out the other end without getting into your bloodstream. I don't know if food based vitamin c pills have superior absorption rates to ascorbic acid, but I suspect it would, if you wanted to try those instead.
-You can bypass this problem by using liposomal vitamin c, which is a fat soluble form that will go into the bloodstream without any limitations. But it must be from a reputable source, because many things sold as liposomal vitamin c actually aren't genuine. It is expensive, but can do more work with less vitamin c, and it is supposedly just a good alternative to intravenous vitamin c. I'd acquire some of this but then save it for if symptoms are getting bad and the normal vitamin c isn't cutting it for you, and you don't have the option of getting intravenous vitamin C.
-Take 30mg of Zinc twice a day if already infected.
-Take 5000 UI of vitamin D3 once a day.
-Oregano oil capsules twice a day. It's a powerful antiviral oil.

2. Colloidal silver will kill the virus on contact while not harming your normal cells. It has to be silver particles smaller than a nano meter. And from a reputable source so it's quality is trustworthy. You can take it several different ways to maximize your uptake of it. Hold it under the tongue multiple times a day to let some pass directly into your bloodstream. Spray it into your nose multiple times a day to clear out any there. Gargle it if you're having symptoms appear in your throat.

3. Anti-viral essential oils. Important to use a high potency organic essential oil blend from a reputable source. I use a Young Living blend called "thieves". Several of the ingredients in it are said to be anti-viral and anti-bacterial. It gets it's name from the legend that supposedly this blend of herbs was used by thieves to steal from the homes of black death victims in medieval Europe, because the herbs placed in a mask over the face allowed them was said to allow them to be around the infection without getting it. Perhaps it would be effective to spray this onto masks as well if one wanted more defense when going outdoors.

4. Boosting overall health in order to boost immune health. This entails a comprehensive multi-vitamin to support overall health. I use Youngevity's Tangy Tangerine because of it's combination of both trace minerals and vitamins. I think it's the most comprehensive one I've found that also isn't very expensive. I also take a food based "green powder" from Garden of Life.

5. A raw vegan diet. Dr. Fred Bisci has about 90 and has been raw vegan since his 30s, and specializes in consulting with people to heal their issues using a raw food diet. He points out that those on a raw vegan diet generally don't suffer from things like the flu. The reason is because your body doesn't have to waste a lot of energy trying to process cooked/processed foods, foods we weren't designed to eat, and then having to deal with the build up of toxins that result from such a lifestyle. In additional to the fact that the vitamins and enyzmes remain intact when you eat it raw so the body gets more nutrition to build itself up with.
I have been strictly raw vegan for the past three months, in order to help resolve lingering health issues, and I believe this has contributed to the virus having a more limited effect on me than it otherwise would have.

Thank you very much for all the detailed ideas you shared; much appreciated.
I also believe that diet has quite some impact. We can indeed do quite a lot, I agree completely.
And making sure not too take in, too many toxings, naturally helps a lot.

 

[leov]

It's substanceease came from a market in China, on the opposite side of the world.

Exactly, how do we know that Corona virus is not of the same nature, artificial crisis?
Do not see irony?

 

[Rise]

There's also another way to protect yourself from it. And this is the main method of defense I expect to rely on. I am reminded of an account given by John G Lake, a Christian missionary and founder of the "Healing Rooms" ministry.

Here is a quotation from his writings:

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Now watch the action of the law of life. Faith belongs to the law of life. Faith is the very opposite of fear. Faith has the opposite effect in spirit, and soul, and body. Faith causes the spirit of man to become confident. It causes the mind of man to become restful, and positive. A positive mind repels disease. Consequently, the emanation of the Spirit destroys disease germs.
And because we were in contact with the Spirit of life, I and a little Dutch fellow with me went out and buried many of the people who had died from the bubonic plague. We went into the homes and carried them out, dug the graves and put them in. Sometimes we would put three or four in one grave.
We never took the disease. Why? Because of the knowledge that the law of life in Christ Jesus protects us. That law was working. Because of the fact that a man by that action of his will, puts himself purposely in contact with God, faith takes possession of his heart, and the condition of his nature is changed. Instead of being fearful, he is full of faith. Instead of being absorbent and drawing everything to himself, his spirit repels sickness and disease. The Spirit of Christ Jesus flows through the whole being , and emanates through the hands, the heart, and from every pore of the body.
During that great plague that I mentioned, they sent a government ship with supplies and corps of doctors. One of the doctors sent for me, and said, "What have you been using to protect yourself? Out corps has this preventative and that, which we use as protection, but we concluded that if a man could stay on the ground as you have and keep ministering to the sick and burying the dead, you must have a secret. What is it?"
I answered, "Brother that is the 'law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus.' I believe that just as long as I keep my soul in contact with the living God so that His Spirit is flowing into my soul and body, that no germ will ever attach itself to me, for the Spirit of God will kill it." He asked, "Don't you think that you had better use our preventatives?" I replied, "No, but doctor I think that you would like to experiment with me. If you will go over to one of these dead people and take the foam that comes out of their lungs after death, then put it under the microscope you will see masses of living germs. You will find they are alive until a reasonable time after a man is dead. You can fill my hand with them and I will keep it under the microscope, and instead of these germs remaining alive, they will die instantly." They tried it and found it was true. They questioned, "What is that?" I replied, "That is 'the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus.' When a man's spirit and a man's body are filled with the blessed presence of God, it oozes out of the pores of your flesh and kills the germs."
Suppose on the other hand, my soul had been under the law of death, and I were in fear and darkness? The very opposite would have been the result. The result would have been that my body would have absorbed the germs, these would have generated disease and I would have died.
You who are sick, put yourself in contact with God's law of life. Read His Word with the view of enlightening your heart so that you will be able to look up with more confidence and believe Him. Pray that the Spirit of God will come into your soul, take possession of your body, and its power will make you well. That is the exercise of the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus.

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That account reminds me also of one Dan Mohler shared, where he said that when donating blood the nurse shared with him that he had the most pure blood she had ever seen. Like the blood of a newborn, despite him being in his 50s. Saying that he didn't have any of the environmental toxins one would expect to find in someone's blood simply by breathing the air around us for decades. Mohler credited being a new creation in Jesus for this phenomenon, that he was purified and made clean by the blood of Jesus.

Ultimately, if a pandemic were really bad, I suspect the only real defense we'd have is to be like the Israelites who were hunkered down under the protection of the blood of the lamb on their doorposts while the destroyer passed over their house to visit every other house in the land.
Appropriating the promise found in Psalm 91:
If you say, "The LORD is my refuge," and you make the Most High your dwelling,...No evil shall befall you, Nor shall any plague come near your dwelling.

I also am reminded of a historical account of a medieval town in Germany where the black death was severe. The people, believing their sin had made them vulnerable to the plague, repented to God with mourning and fasting in the streets, and shortly after the plague was gone from their town.

 

[Rise]

Thank you very much for all the detailed ideas you shared; much appreciated.
I also believe that diet has quite some impact. We can indeed do quite a lot, I agree completely.
And making sure not too take in, too many toxings, naturally helps a lot.

I am glad you appreciated it. I edited in two more things that can be done that I forgot about. I also expanded a bit on collodial silver.

True! That's quite a problem, to sit in a sauna all day.

Actually, that is something I have seen a naturopath recommend as a way of speeding up your body's ability to recover from an infection: Sitting in a sauna. I'd say an infrared sauna is probably the best version of the sauna for health benefits.

Is it because elevating your core body temperature speeds up the killing of the virus? That would seem to fit with the common practice of increasing your body heat to "sweat out" a fever, allowing you to recover from an illness quicker by purposely elevating your body temperature.

Keeping warm in general prevents you from being susceptible because the body doesn't handle cold well. The immune system starts to get compromised by it.

 

[dianaiad]

How to cure Corona Virus?

Disclaimer and warning: I am not a doctor, but I like to use my brain and take my own responsibility; not trust Big Pharma blindly. AND don't trust me blind either. I am not responsible for what you do with what I have written below.

We could see in Italy an increase of 80% of people killed by the Corona Virus.
That's a very high rate, if it would continue, 70 million people could die in just 57 days.
And 7.8 billion could die in just 81 days. (see the attachment below)

<snip to end.

OK, I see two things with the above post. One, this is a huge example of very bad statistics, and two, if it isn't, then the cure for COVID-19 is......wait for it....

Global Warming.

 

[HonestJoe]

Thanks for your opinion.

It isn't opinion, it's simple statistical and clinical fact. Stop spouting alarmist trash.

 

[exchemist]

Exactly, how do we know that Corona virus is not of the same nature, artificial crisis?
Do not see irony?

What I see is someone trying repeated to air a completely mad and unevidenced conspiracy theory. The virus has been examined, completely decoded and is consistent with a natural origin. There is every reason to think it has a natural origin and no reason to think otherwise, so far as I know.

 

[ratiocinator]

2. Colloidal silver will kill the virus on contact while not harming your normal cells. It has to be silver particles smaller than a nano meter. And from a reputable source so it's quality is trustworthy. You can take it several different ways to maximize your uptake of it. Hold it under the tongue multiple times a day to let some pass directly into your bloodstream. Spray it into your nose multiple times a day to clear out any there. Gargle it if you're having symptoms appear in your throat. I have heard stories of people getting over acute infections by ingesting a large amount of it, but I haven't researched that out much. Typically people say the gains from ingesting it are minimal because of what happens to it after it enters the stomach. But maybe that's why the stories I've heard involved people ingesting a lot of it to cure an infection (You also have to be careful about doing that with a low quality silver from an unreliable source. Bad homebrew silver, possibly like something you could find on amazon, could potentially do things like turn the skin blue if taken in large quantity).

This is potentially harmful nonsense, see for example (item 4): Six coronavirus health myths fact-checked

The use of colloidal silver was promoted on US televangelist Jim Bakker's show. Colloidal silver is tiny particles of the metal suspended in liquid. A guest on the show claimed the solution kills some strains of coronavirus within 12 hours (while admitting it hadn't yet been tested on Covid-19).

The idea that it could be an effective treatment for coronavirus has been widely shared on Facebook, particularly by "medical freedom" groups which are deeply suspicious of mainstream medical advice.

Proponents of colloidal silver claim it can treat all kinds of health conditions, act as an antiseptic, and state it helps the immune system. There are some occasional uses of silver in healthcare, for example in bandages applied to wounds, but that doesn't mean it's effective to consume.

There's clear advice from the US health authorities that there's no evidence this type of silver solution is effective for any health condition. More importantly, it could cause serious side effects including kidney damage, seizures and argyria - a condition that makes your skin turn blue.

They say that, unlike iron or zinc, silver is not a metal that has any function in the human body.

Some of those promoting the substance for general health on social media have found their posts now generate a pop-up warning from Facebook's fact-checking service.​

 

[oldbadger]

How to cure Corona Virus?
When I was young I had bronchitis. And my mother made me sit above a bucket with steaming hot water, and a towel over my head, and I had to inhale the hot steam. It did work.

Yes.
My wife received a message from one of the veterinary surgeons today, explaining that :-
1. ......at first this virus is noticed in the throat, producing a dry painful cough for up to three days.
2. It then develops in the nasal cavities, and from there develops in the lungs.

In the 'dry cough' days hot drinks can kill this virus and/or wash it in to the gut where it is destroyed. If you keep drinking hot drinks as regularly as possible you can reduce the effects of this sickness.

Your Mum's steam inside a towel probably did exactly the same thing.

I for one will be drinking hot drinks like lem-sip etc when I get this virus. Yep.

 

[exchemist]

Interesting thought "it starts to run out of new people to infect". That means Corona is a good "medicine" for creating a stronger human race.

So, you think that Corona virus got at a start all the weak ones in the first few days? That would mean it's a really smart virus, just selecting the weak ones, and skipping all the others. Or all got already infected, only the weak ones died of it? Or most of Italians are weak ones.

I think this increase from 1000 death to 1800 death in just 3 days (imagine it were your family or the village I live in; which counts circa 800 people), is very significant and good enough to mention, so that people become aware, that this virus means business.

And people should take it very serious if the government issues all kind of rules, like you also said in the end of your reply to flatten the curve. Many people don't take it serious enough I have seen, although now this is changing, but just yesterday a man who was coughing and told by the police to stop or go home, got mad and spit the policeman in the face. Reading this, I thought, it's good to make people aware how dangerous this virus can be. And imagine that the government orders all humans almost to stay home, close all the schools, that means they are scared to death, for the consequence when not doing such an immense extreme action.


Good point. Thanks.
I do daily kind of "dialysis" at home, and this extra cleanse gives me so much extra power, so better protection against corona. Or more accurate, leaving more power to my immune system to fight of any bugs that should not be there. So eating very healthy is also a good way to protect yourself (from dying) I think, because you don't waste energy on excess or bad food. Also good to keep stress levels low I believe. Stress of excess eating, excess sex, excess emotional stress, excess anything.


Very important, thanks for sharing the link. People really need to become aware, why this is so important.


I know, and I wrote that this won't be likely to happen. I was just showing how dangerous Corona is right now, and how important it is, to follow the guidelines mentioned by the government to flatten the curve.

You are misunderstanding some of this. It is not a question of the virus seeking out the "weaker" people first. Obviously it can't do that. The reason why the epidemic curve is not a simple increasing exponential is like this:-

Suppose at the start, the average number of new people infected by each already infected person is 2. That means if you start with 1, you get 2 more infected, then 4 the 8 then 16 then 32 and so on, i.e. a typical exponential increase. However, after a while, some of the new people the infected ones meet have already had the illness, recovered and become immune. So then what happens is the average number of new people infected each time starts to drop below 2, to 1.9, then 1.8 etc.

Eventually, when the number gets down to 1, the epidemic stops increasing, because every infected person only infects one more. But still, more and more people in the population have recovered and become immune. So the average infection number goes on down below 1. Once it is below 1, the epidemic starts to decline.

This is nothing to do with who is strong and who is weak: it is simply the way the statistical chance of passing an infection to someone who is not immune drops, as an epidemic progresses.

The exponential increase phase only lasts as long as there is no significant build-up of newly immune people.

 

[oldbadger]

Of course it's fine to point out mistakes I made int the OP
But please do read the Disclaimer
I made no claims
Just sharing​

Relax.
I think your Mum was on to something.
But my wife has heard that drinking hot drinks regularly in the early stages can make a huge difference.

That's very similar.
You had a clever Mum. :

Actually my Granny was in to a steaming bowl with towel held over all. Trouble is I can't remember what she mixed in with the water.

 

[exchemist]

There are a few things you can do, based on researching what experts have said and consulting with experts for myself.


1. Immune boosting therapy via supplementation. Most people are deficient in the necessary vitamins and minerals to have optimal health.

Specifically what you can do for that:
-For acute infections, intravenous vitamin c done daily, in mega doses, will knock it out. Vitamin c is the fuel of the immune system. This has been known to be an effective treatment for decades for a variety of issues, and is reportedly currently being done in China as the primary means of treating the infection.
-For less serious infections, take 6,000-15,000mg spaced out over the course of the day. Taking vitamin C every hour or two. Taking it all at once has exponentially diminishing returns because the gut puts a limit on how much ascorbic acid is transferred into the bloodstream; so most of it will go out the other end without getting into your bloodstream. I don't know if food based vitamin c pills (basically fruit ground up and turned into a pill) have superior absorption rates to ascorbic acid - but I suspect they would. I just haven't looked for any data on that idea yet so I can't say for sure.
-You can bypass this problem by using liposomal vitamin c, which is a fat soluble form that will go into the bloodstream without any limitations. But it must be from a reputable source because many things sold as liposomal vitamin c actually aren't genuine. It is expensive but can do more work with less vitamin c. It is also supposedly a good alternative to intravenous vitamin c. I'd get some and hold onto it in case the normal vitamin C isn't effective enough for you.
-Take 30mg of Zinc twice a day if already infected.
-Take 5000 UI of vitamin D3 once a day.
-Oregano oil capsules twice a day. It's a powerful antiviral oil.

2. Colloidal silver will kill the virus on contact while not harming your normal cells. It has to be silver particles smaller than a nano meter. And from a reputable source so it's quality is trustworthy. You can take it several different ways to maximize your uptake of it. Hold it under the tongue multiple times a day to let some pass directly into your bloodstream. Spray it into your nose multiple times a day to clear out any there. Gargle it if you're having symptoms appear in your throat. I have heard stories of people getting over acute infections by ingesting a large amount of it, but I haven't researched that out much. Typically people say the gains from ingesting it are minimal because of what happens to it after it enters the stomach. But maybe that's why the stories I've heard involved people ingesting a lot of it to cure an infection (You also have to be careful about doing that with a low quality silver from an unreliable source. Bad homebrew silver, possibly like something you could find on amazon, could potentially do things like turn the skin blue if taken in large quantity).

3. Anti-viral essential oils. Important to use a high potency organic essential oil blend from a reputable source. I use a Young Living blend called "thieves". Several of the ingredients in it are said to be anti-viral and anti-bacterial. It gets it's name from the legend that supposedly this blend of herbs was used by thieves to steal from the homes of black death victims in medieval Europe, because the herbs placed in a mask over the face allowed them was said to allow them to be around the infection without getting it. Perhaps it would be effective to spray this onto masks as well if one wanted more defense when going outdoors.

4. Boosting overall health in order to boost immune health. This entails a comprehensive multi-vitamin to support overall health. I use Youngevity's Tangy Tangerine because of it's combination of both trace minerals and vitamins. I think it's the most comprehensive one I've found that also isn't very expensive. I also take a food based "green powder" from Garden of Life.

5. A raw vegan diet. Dr. Fred Bisci has about 90 and has been raw vegan since his 30s, and specializes in consulting with people to heal their issues using a raw food diet. He points out that those on a raw vegan diet generally don't suffer from things like the flu. The reason is because your body doesn't have to waste a lot of energy trying to process cooked/processed foods, foods we weren't designed to eat, and then having to deal with the build up of toxins that result from such a lifestyle. In additional to the fact that the vitamins and enyzmes remain intact when you eat it raw so the body gets more nutrition to build itself up with.

6. Wash your produce in water with iodine added to it, and then wait for the iodine to work, before consuming it. You don't know what got onto it from people in the store, or the workers involved in bringing it from the farm to the store. Iodine should kill any virus and bacteria on it.

7. You can also make a sanitizing spray for your hands or surfaces using high proof vodka, like 140 proof or more. Most people don't know this, which means the Vodka is still on the shelf while the hand sanitizer is gone. But be sure it's high proof. If the proof is too low then it won't be concentrated enough to be effective and you're likely just wasting your money.

Items 1, 2 and 3 are entirely bogus.

Item 2 is fraudulent and dangerous.

 

[leov]

What I see is someone trying repeated to air a completely mad and unevidenced conspiracy theory. The virus has been examined, completely decoded and is consistent with a natural origin. There is every reason to think it has a natural origin and no reason to think otherwise, so far as I know.

Do you want to say that there was not a precedent when US Government deceived the entire world and started devastating war based on fake information, the war that turned upside down this nation and other nations resulted in ruin of nations and death of millions of people ?

 

[exchemist]

Do you want to say that there was not a precedent when US Government deceived the entire world and started devastating war based on fake information, the war that turned upside down this nation and other nations resulted in ruin of nations and death of millions of people ?

No, I said what I said. And oddly enough, what I said is what I meant.

 

[oldbadger]

The home remedy for bronchitis you are referring to eases the symptoms, but does nothing to arrest the disease. For that, with a virus, you need your own immune system to take care of it, which it will do in time..

Hi there.......
I'm going to try hot drinks every half hour when I eventually get the dry cough......... my wife is on a vet-surgeon grape vine and they have a variety of professional contacts, and the word is to drink hot drinks which (in the early stages) do wash much of the infection in to the guts, and this can reduce the severity of infection in the lungs later on.

She also heard that to take Ibuprofen is WRONG because it actually aggravates coronavirus.
Paracets being best to reduce temperature.

Hell........ at the end of the day, with so little info from the boffins, I'll take my chances with a bunch of veterinary surgeons! They are pretty smart, after all.

I'll try the hot drinks, the steam bowl with vicks or olbas, paracets and sheer Brit bloody mindedness.

 

[leov]

No, I said what I said. And oddly enough, what I said is what I meant.

Ok, if it make sense to you, not to me...

 

[Quagmire]

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