How to cure Corona Virus? ! (solution ... maybe)

[stvdv]

I did. You posted a hypothesis that is based on something that already cannot happen because people are recovering and having from the virus.

No, I said that "IF" it would continue at such a rate

Following with:

Of course, this is quite a doom scenario, unlikely to happen, but this 80% increase death in Italy shows, that this virus means business.

 

[stvdv]

And increase based on what? 1%?

1000 death going up to 1800 death
IF it were your family, you would take it more serious?

 

[sun rise]

Some 1600 people die in Italy daily. 7700 in US. Regular day.

So what. That's not the issue. Ignoring it is the wrong opposite of panic.

 

[exchemist]

True! That's quite a problem, to sit in a sauna all day.

My Master always called me to south India. I understand now why. Here in Holland, those were the sick month for me. And 24/7 hot Indian temperature kept me safe from these viruses (except once he told me to get the hell out of South India, because Malaria was coming).

Do you know what temperature would make a difference, to keep the virus gone? They do say that coronavirus problem will be in winter. Here we don't have it in summer, even while we only have like 20 degrees Celsius in summer. If the critical temperature would be like 20 or 25 degrees, that would be easy to manage by staying in a warm room. 30 degrees would be a problem already though (and very costly).

Think a bit about this. What is your own body temperature?

37C, right? So it is obvious that a simple temperature of even as much as 37C cannot kill any pathogen.

From what I understand, the mechanism by which summertime reduces virus infections seems to be a combination of:
- UV in the stronger sunlight,
- the greater amount of time people spend out of doors, farther apart from one another and
- with the windows open, allowing air to circulate and reducing the concentration of viruses circulating in the air we breathe in.

 

[Twilight Hue]

1000 death going up to 1800 death
IF it were your family, you would take it more serious?

Sure but also with the knowledge that its simply how life works.

Dangerous or not you cant completely shut down civilization over a 1-3% death statistic. High risk people should be informed and take appropriate measures.

Most of the population is going to be okay anyways over this, even if they catch it.

 

[HonestJoe]

Aha, I see, you missed the "IF" I wrote.

I didn't. It's a ridiculous extrapolation even as a possibility. It simply isn't how this kind of thing works.

 

[stvdv]

These numbers don't make any sense. The whole population of Italy is 60m, the same as the UK. It is perfectly obvious that exponential growth cannot continue indefinitely. It will start to deviate more and more from the exponential curve, as more people become resistant, and as more of the most vulnerable group are killed by it, so that it starts to run out of new people to infect.

Interesting thought "it starts to run out of new people to infect". That means Corona is a good "medicine" for creating a stronger human race.

So, you think that Corona virus got at a start all the weak ones in the first few days? That would mean it's a really smart virus, just selecting the weak ones, and skipping all the others. Or all got already infected, only the weak ones died of it? Or most of Italians are weak ones.

I think this increase from 1000 death to 1800 death in just 3 days (imagine it were your family or the village I live in; which counts circa 800 people), is very significant and good enough to mention, so that people become aware, that this virus means business.

And people should take it very serious if the government issues all kind of rules, like you also said in the end of your reply to flatten the curve. Many people don't take it serious enough I have seen, although now this is changing, but just yesterday a man who was coughing and told by the police to stop or go home, got mad and spit the policeman in the face. Reading this, I thought, it's good to make people aware how dangerous this virus can be. And imagine that the government orders all humans almost to stay home, close all the schools, that means they are scared to death, for the consequence when not doing such an immense extreme action.

The home remedy for bronchitis you are referring to eases the symptoms, but does nothing to arrest the disease. For that, with a virus, you need your own immune system to take care of it, which it will do in time.

Good point. Thanks.
I do daily kind of "dialysis" at home, and this extra cleanse gives me so much extra power, so better protection against corona. Or more accurate, leaving more power to my immune system to fight of any bugs that should not be there. So eating very healthy is also a good way to protect yourself (from dying) I think, because you don't waste energy on excess or bad food. Also good to keep stress levels low I believe. Stress of excess eating, excess sex, excess emotional stress, excess anything.

P.S. Take at look at the curves in this link: "Flattening the curve": Why we need to cancel everything and stay home to help stop coronavirus - CBS News

Very important, thanks for sharing the link. People really need to become aware, why this is so important.

What you see is that at the very start, the shape is exponential increase. This is where we are now. However, this starts to straighten out into straight-line growth and them flattens, and finally peaks and then declines. You will see that sort of shape with both the number of infections and the number of deaths. What you are doing with your table is taking the exponential curve at the far left of the curve and imagining it goes on like that ad infinitum. It can't and it won't.

I know, and I wrote that this won't be likely to happen. I was just showing how dangerous Corona is right now, and how important it is, to follow the guidelines mentioned by the government to flatten the curve.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

No, I said that "IF" it would continue at such a rate

It's can't, and one country to focus on while ignoring everywhere else and all known factors and variables. Far more people have recovered than those who have died. Basic math destroys your argument. There is no if, except a fantasy what if that would see everyone on this earth (and perhaps some extra people who don't exist) infected and killed. But that is impossible as more people have recovered than those who have died.

 

[pearl]

I guess the trick is to find how to stop the virus from replicating itself once it attacks the host. Much as they did with HIV.

 

[stvdv]

Sure but also with the knowledge that its simply how life works.

Dangerous or not you cant completely shut down civilization over a 1-3% death statistic. High risk people should be informed and take appropriate measures.

Most of the population is going to be okay anyways over this, even if they catch it.

That is a good attitude, being aware that being born and dying are both just life.

Of healthy people only 0.2% die I just read
And average is just 4%, of which most would be the elderly people and the sick ones

If that were true, then why close schools and make such a fuzz of closing things?
They could also decide to tell the elderly to stay inside, and let all the others just continue as usual; that should do the trick maybe?
No extra precautions needed. Or do you think the 4% might go up? What would you decide, if you were president and had to make this decision?

 

[stvdv]

It's can't, and one country to focus on while ignoring everywhere else and all known factors and variables. Far more people have recovered than those who have died. Basic math destroys your argument. There is no if, except a fantasy what if that would see everyone on this earth (and perhaps some extra people who don't exist) infected and killed. But that is impossible as more people have recovered than those who have died.

Still missing my point, I did not claim anything, I just said "IF" this would happen, following with "which is very unlikely".
You just seem to like find faults in my OP, where I just shared my ideas, not making any claims.
But if you enjoy finding faults, go ahead, I won't stop you, but won't take them serious either, nor answer them

 

[sun rise]

Sure but also with the knowledge that its simply how life works.

Dangerous or not you cant completely shut down civilization over a 1-3% death statistic. High risk people should be informed and take appropriate measures.

Most of the population is going to be okay anyways over this, even if they catch it.

Everyone should take appropriate measures to flatten the curve and avoid overwhelming hospitals. It's not business as usual for those who care about their neighbors.

 

[stvdv]

The terrible beer? Not quite that many, I think.

I had to google that. I wonder how Corona beer is selling nowadays. This virus must have some impact on the sales I think, not sure which impact

 

[stvdv]

Think a bit about this. What is your own body temperature?

37C, right? So it is obvious that a simple temperature of even as much as 37C cannot kill any pathogen.

From what I understand, the mechanism by which summertime reduces virus infections seems to be a combination of:
- UV in the stronger sunlight,
- the greater amount of time people spend out of doors, farther apart from one another and
- with the windows open, allowing air to circulate and reducing the concentration of viruses circulating in the air we breathe in.

Thanks. Those points are helpful. For 10 years I escaped cold, dampy, wet, rainy holland winter season, to stay in indian heat. Did wonders for me.
check = UV and stronger sunlight
check = outside, but I have never sat so close on top of others as in the ashram, Indians literally breathing in your neck.
check = windows open, and hot air circulating

 

[stvdv]

I didn't. It's a ridiculous extrapolation even as a possibility. It simply isn't how this kind of thing works.

Thanks for your opinion.

 

[stvdv]

Everyone should take appropriate measures to flatten the curve and avoid overwhelming hospitals. It's not business as usual for those who care about their neighbors.

Those are good points. thanks.
And it is not business as usual for those who do not care about their neighbors normally.
I even read that you can get in serious trouble if you knowingly infect others by neglect (especially if they die from it).

 

[exchemist]

I had to google that. I wonder how Corona beer is selling nowadays. This virus must have some impact on the sales I think, not sure which impact

I think I read somewhere that sales are up.

 

[leov]

So what. That's na bit hugher flu and flu-likeot the issue. Ignoring it is the wrong opposite of panic.

Or just governments playing ignorant sheep's, covering up another banking bubble or what have you, I think there is no Cd virus deaths, it just normal numbers and heavy flu and flu like numbers and, of course, Iraqi WMDs.

 

[exchemist]

Or just governments playing ignorant sheep's, covering up another banking bubble or what have you, I think there is no Cd virus deaths, it just normal numbers and heavy flu and flu like numbers and, of course, Iraqi WMDs.

It's time you gave up with this lunatic insinuation. There were NO Iraqi WMDs. This disease came from a market in China, on the opposite side of the world.

 

[Rise]

How to cure Corona Virus?

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There are a few things you can do, based on researching what experts have said and consulting with experts for myself.


1. Immune boosting therapy via supplementation. Most people are deficient in the necessary vitamins and minerals to have optimal health.

Specifically what you can do for that:
-For acute infections, intravenous vitamin c done daily, in mega doses, will knock it out. Vitamin c is the fuel of the immune system. This has been known to be an effective treatment for decades for a variety of issues, and is reportedly currently being done in China as the primary means of treating the infection.
-For less serious infections, take 6,000-15,000mg spaced out over the course of the day. Taking vitamin C every hour or two. Taking it all at once has exponentially diminishing returns because the gut puts a limit on how much ascorbic acid is transferred into the bloodstream; so most of it will go out the other end without getting into your bloodstream. I don't know if food based vitamin c pills (basically fruit ground up and turned into a pill) have superior absorption rates to ascorbic acid - but I suspect they would. I just haven't looked for any data on that idea yet so I can't say for sure.
-You can bypass this problem by using liposomal vitamin c, which is a fat soluble form that will go into the bloodstream without any limitations. But it must be from a reputable source because many things sold as liposomal vitamin c actually aren't genuine. It is expensive but can do more work with less vitamin c. It is also supposedly a good alternative to intravenous vitamin c. I'd get some and hold onto it in case the normal vitamin C isn't effective enough for you.
-Take 30mg of Zinc twice a day if already infected.
-Take 5000 UI of vitamin D3 once a day.
-Oregano oil capsules twice a day. It's a powerful antiviral oil.

2. Colloidal silver will kill the virus on contact while not harming your normal cells. It has to be silver particles smaller than a nano meter. And from a reputable source so it's quality is trustworthy. You can take it several different ways to maximize your uptake of it. Hold it under the tongue multiple times a day to let some pass directly into your bloodstream. Spray it into your nose multiple times a day to clear out any there. Gargle it if you're having symptoms appear in your throat. I have heard stories of people getting over acute infections by ingesting a large amount of it, but I haven't researched that out much. Typically people say the gains from ingesting it are minimal because of what happens to it after it enters the stomach. But maybe that's why the stories I've heard involved people ingesting a lot of it to cure an infection (You also have to be careful about doing that with a low quality silver from an unreliable source. Bad homebrew silver, possibly like something you could find on amazon, could potentially do things like turn the skin blue if taken in large quantity).

3. Anti-viral essential oils. Important to use a high potency organic essential oil blend from a reputable source. I use a Young Living blend called "thieves". Several of the ingredients in it are said to be anti-viral and anti-bacterial. It gets it's name from the legend that supposedly this blend of herbs was used by thieves to steal from the homes of black death victims in medieval Europe, because the herbs placed in a mask over the face allowed them was said to allow them to be around the infection without getting it. Perhaps it would be effective to spray this onto masks as well if one wanted more defense when going outdoors.

4. Boosting overall health in order to boost immune health. This entails a comprehensive multi-vitamin to support overall health. I use Youngevity's Tangy Tangerine because of it's combination of both trace minerals and vitamins. I think it's the most comprehensive one I've found that also isn't very expensive. I also take a food based "green powder" from Garden of Life.

5. A raw vegan diet. Dr. Fred Bisci has about 90 and has been raw vegan since his 30s, and specializes in consulting with people to heal their issues using a raw food diet. He points out that those on a raw vegan diet generally don't suffer from things like the flu. The reason is because your body doesn't have to waste a lot of energy trying to process cooked/processed foods, foods we weren't designed to eat, and then having to deal with the build up of toxins that result from such a lifestyle. In additional to the fact that the vitamins and enyzmes remain intact when you eat it raw so the body gets more nutrition to build itself up with.

6. Wash your produce in water with iodine added to it, and then wait for the iodine to work, before consuming it. You don't know what got onto it from people in the store, or the workers involved in bringing it from the farm to the store. Iodine should kill any virus and bacteria on it.

7. You can also make a sanitizing spray for your hands or surfaces using high proof vodka, like 140 proof or more. Most people don't know this, which means the Vodka is still on the shelf while the hand sanitizer is gone. But be sure it's high proof. If the proof is too low then it won't be concentrated enough to be effective and you're likely just wasting your money.