How to know the true God

[peacecrusader888]

John 17:3 states: "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." So there is only one true God. How do we know that the god we worship is the true God? He must have the three following attributes:
1. Omnipotent - having all power; almighty
2. Omnipresent - present everywhere at the same time
3. Omniscient - knowing everything, including what happened in the past and knowing what will happen in the future.

If you were to worship a god, be sure that He is the true God.

 

[peacecrusader888]

John 17:3 states: "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." So there is only one true God. How do we know that the god we worship is the true God? He must have the three following attributes:
1. Omnipotent - having all power; almighty
2. Omnipresent - present everywhere at the same time
3. Omniscient - knowing everything, including what happened in the past and knowing what will happen in the future.

If you were to worship a god, be sure that He is the true God.

God is not only omnipotent and omnipresent, but omniscient as well. The following verses prove of His being omniscient:
Isaiah 43:9, 12
Isaiah 44:7-8
Isaiah 45:21
Isaiah 46:10
Isaiah 47:13
Isaiah 48:3, 5-8

 

[Prizebeatz1]

Infinite, eternal, unconditional and much much more.

 

[PeteC-UK]

Hi Folks...

A very interesting question...

You know John above who is quoted..?...Well - He also wrote OTHER gospels that the church then banned as "herasy" - go figure - one minute he is SAINT John - but the next he is "satan spawn writing herasy"...lol...

And look - the BIBLE version of his gospel - is not even written by HIM at all - freely admitted by the catholics who manufactured the Bible...They literally "made up" the canon - like cut n paste - from HUNDREDS of other pre existant manuscripts that they then wittled them down to a bare handful of books, told us this was the ONLY permitted "truth" - and promptly went about destroying all traces of the original truth, manuscripts , direct teaching by Christ - destroyed it wherever they found it - tortured and murdered any and all who understood Him - and so affectively silence Christ and replaced His legitimate truth with bogus "catholic doctrine" which was forced upon the world under Romes military dominance..

You should ask yourselves here - WHY did they do that at all..?...The answer is obviously that the original gospels - written and claimed directly BY the disciples - have some very very DAMNING thtings to say about not only the Jewish religion - but also about the god itself directly...

Christ - actually has no affiliation to that god at all - told us quite plainly that it was lying and decievng us - claiming authority over us that it has no actual Divine rights to claim - it is NOT superior He said - NOT the FATHER that He alone teaches is of..

So - the question - how to know the TRUE god - simply cannot even be answered from within the bible - for that book is a manufactured written AGENDA aimed at keeping a much lesser (semi) divine entity in bogus position of authority over us mortals - its more like a political manifesto for election rather than a book of eternal spiritual truth - the bible is at best - a twisting of original truth - and in some places - an outright deception designed to keep you all subjugate TO that bogus authority..

Original truth from Christ does still exist !! Conatined in original gosples that the church then forbad you to hold or know - forbad on PAIN OF DEATH - and of course - we need then ask the hard question here - WHY did they first MURDER Christ..?? and WHY did they then go on to seek out all those who knew His truth, and silence them also..??....WHAT was said by him that threatened their established authority so much, and so DIRECTLY - that they found it necassary to MURDER and torture..??..

The simple truth as HE said it plainly - your god, Yahweh of the Jews - is NOT my Father He told them..It is merely an Angel that is coveting power and thus deceiving you into false obediance..He then provbed His Divine status, by performing,as we know, MIRACLEs - but look - NO priest of Yahweh can do what HE does..I will be glad to explain in depth - but for now - realise, they were THREATENED by His truth - and use that as the basis here - and it becomes VERY obvios why they were threatened, when we ACTUALLY go look at that original truth in those original gospels - plain for all to see - we find Christ speaking of an entirely new and unknown legitimate Divine spirit - and alongside He explains where this lesser trickster Angel comes from,and how we ended up in this confusion.....

Instead of the bible version - go read the original gospel that John wrote and DIRECTLY CLAIMED - within,we find a complete narrative and can immediatly see the deception begin...Or actually - read any and all tomes that the church banned as "herasy" and within you will see clear reasons why they do that - the god THEY serve is no way the same spirit that Christ alone teaches us of..I do so hate to quote scripture - but here is some that shows you directly what I mean here.. - from JUDAS - Christ is about to explain the layout of Creation itself - and He stars thus :

“Come, that I may teach you about secrets no person has ever seen. For there exists a great and boundless realm, whose extent no generation of angels has seen,in which there is a great invisible Spirit which no eye of an angel has ever seen, no thought of the heart has ever comprehended, and it was never called by any name.“

Thats pretty clear isnt it..??..

He just told Judas that He is revealing SECRETS that no mortal has EVER even comprehended before - and that no ANGEL ABOVE either has ever known before - secrets from a "great and boundless realm" that NONE BEFORE HAVE EVER ENCOUNTERED - and likewise SECRETS of an great invisible spirit, that none before have ever encountered and thus it has NO NAME !!

Understand then - these truths He is revealing - absolutely NO WAY - can that be about Yahweh of the Jews - can it..??...He is VERY CLEAR - He is from an entirely UNKNOWN and fully Divine SOURCE of ALL Creation - and He says the lesser god of the Jews is deceiving us and holding us dominated - for this reason they murdered him - silenced His truth for centuries to come, protected their own power and status at the direct expense of legitimate universal, spiritual truths - with held that from us and literally enforced the domination of Yahweh upon us all instead..

And so I say clearly - we cannot come to know the truth of the Divine by the bible alone - it is a tool used against us in a scheme of spiritual domination..Read instead the ORIGINAL teachngs of Christ,and it will all become very clear indeed...

 

[First Baseman]

Hi Folks...

A very interesting question...

You know John above who is quoted..?...Well - He also wrote OTHER gospels that the church then banned as "herasy" - go figure - one minute he is SAINT John - but the next he is "satan spawn writing herasy"...lol...

And look - the BIBLE version of his gospel - is not even written by HIM at all - freely admitted by the catholics who manufactured the Bible...They literally "made up" the canon - like cut n paste - from HUNDREDS of other pre existant manuscripts that they then wittled them down to a bare handful of books, told us this was the ONLY permitted "truth" - and promptly went about destroying all traces of the original truth, manuscripts , direct teaching by Christ - destroyed it wherever they found it - tortured and murdered any and all who understood Him - and so affectively silence Christ and replaced His legitimate truth with bogus "catholic doctrine" which was forced upon the world under Romes military dominance..

You should ask yourselves here - WHY did they do that at all..?...The answer is obviously that the original gospels - written and claimed directly BY the disciples - have some very very DAMNING thtings to say about not only the Jewish religion - but also about the god itself directly...

Christ - actually has no affiliation to that god at all - told us quite plainly that it was lying and decievng us - claiming authority over us that it has no actual Divine rights to claim - it is NOT superior He said - NOT the FATHER that He alone teaches is of..

So - the question - how to know the TRUE god - simply cannot even be answered from within the bible - for that book is a manufactured written AGENDA aimed at keeping a much lesser (semi) divine entity in bogus position of authority over us mortals - its more like a political manifesto for election rather than a book of eternal spiritual truth - the bible is at best - a twisting of original truth - and in some places - an outright deception designed to keep you all subjugate TO that bogus authority..

Original truth from Christ does still exist !! Conatined in original gosples that the church then forbad you to hold or know - forbad on PAIN OF DEATH - and of course - we need then ask the hard question here - WHY did they first MURDER Christ..?? and WHY did they then go on to seek out all those who knew His truth, and silence them also..??....WHAT was said by him that threatened their established authority so much, and so DIRECTLY - that they found it necassary to MURDER and torture..??..

The simple truth as HE said it plainly - your god, Yahweh of the Jews - is NOT my Father He told them..It is merely an Angel that is coveting power and thus deceiving you into false obediance..He then provbed His Divine status, by performing,as we know, MIRACLEs - but look - NO priest of Yahweh can do what HE does..I will be glad to explain in depth - but for now - realise, they were THREATENED by His truth - and use that as the basis here - and it becomes VERY obvios why they were threatened, when we ACTUALLY go look at that original truth in those original gospels - plain for all to see - we find Christ speaking of an entirely new and unknown legitimate Divine spirit - and alongside He explains where this lesser trickster Angel comes from,and how we ended up in this confusion.....

Instead of the bible version - go read the original gospel that John wrote and DIRECTLY CLAIMED - within,we find a complete narrative and can immediatly see the deception begin...Or actually - read any and all tomes that the church banned as "herasy" and within you will see clear reasons why they do that - the god THEY serve is no way the same spirit that Christ alone teaches us of..I do so hate to quote scripture - but here is some that shows you directly what I mean here.. - from JUDAS - Christ is about to explain the layout of Creation itself - and He stars thus :



Thats pretty clear isnt it..??..

He just told Judas that He is revealing SECRETS that no mortal has EVER even comprehended before - and that no ANGEL ABOVE either has ever known before - secrets from a "great and boundless realm" that NONE BEFORE HAVE EVER ENCOUNTERED - and likewise SECRETS of an great invisible spirit, that none before have ever encountered and thus it has NO NAME !!

Understand then - these truths He is revealing - absolutely NO WAY - can that be about Yahweh of the Jews - can it..??...He is VERY CLEAR - He is from an entirely UNKNOWN and fully Divine SOURCE of ALL Creation - and He says the lesser god of the Jews is deceiving us and holding us dominated - for this reason they murdered him - silenced His truth for centuries to come, protected their own power and status at the direct expense of legitimate universal, spiritual truths - with held that from us and literally enforced the domination of Yahweh upon us all instead..

And so I say clearly - we cannot come to know the truth of the Divine by the bible alone - it is a tool used against us in a scheme of spiritual domination..Read instead the ORIGINAL teachngs of Christ,and it will all become very clear indeed...

He didn't write "other" gospels. Those were easily deemed as faked by the Church. Men filled with the Holy Spirit can determine whether a written work is a work inspired by the Spirit of God or not.

 

[PeteC-UK]

Hi Folks..

First Baseman;

Those were easily deemed as faked by the Church. Men filled with the Holy Spirit can determine whether a written work is a work inspired by the Spirit of God or not.

The clue and rather obvious answer is in your own statement - BY THE CHURCH - understand..??...THEY ALONE gave you(s) all this truth - didnt they..?..Yes - they tortured and murdered thousands,destroyed legitimate ORIGINAL knowledge and wisdom, and replaced it with ENFORCED catholic doctrine that they said is the ONLY PERMITTED form...yes..??...Check out the crusades - check out the inquissition - check out the many many "witch trials" etc etc...they have systematically closed off all spiritual knowldge except that which THEY deem as "authentic"..

They could then (and have) tell you anything they want you to believe - and you all would have no option but to swallow every word they said...They HAVE lied and manipulated the truth all ways around...

Your last part is CRUCIAL - HOLY GHOST - it ALL rests on that just as you say...A LEGITIMATE phenomena I can personally vouch for - also intimately related to Kundalini, let me tell you - when the Christian speaks of "being born again" to receive Christ, this is VERY TRUE, but poorly understood in the Bible (on purpose, they dont want you to know this at all)..It is a legitimate and primarily ENERGETIC change - literally - the mind begns to operate differently as this legitimate communion becomes firm, and so emotions and the body likewise follows in due course until eventually ht eperson is copletly re made with this new MIND - new Self Awareness AS a part of a unified Sovereign Spirit, Our Father..

That would be the Holy Ghost according to Christ directly - a PERSONAL COMMUNION that literally EVERYONE is capable of RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW....But look and understand clearly - Christ gave us that PERSONAL ACCESS - direct mortal mind here communing with the fully Divine Source of ALL creation....YES - He said this access - this KINGDOM - is to be found WITHIN US - each and every one of us RIGHT NOW, can invoke this INNER Divine Presence (the Holy Ghost).....See then - the implications ..??...

We DONT NEED A PRIEST - a religion - a pope - a guru or any middleman at all - NOBODY ELSE can take you to this inner communion EXCEPT your own Self....In modern plain English - Christ said QUIT following everyone else - especially the religion which He despised,and I can show you all clearly He truly DID despise it...Shun all that He said - seek always and only for this INNER communion and this legitimate Presence that WILL come forth He promised, and I vouch it really works...

So, the early church realised HE IS LEGITIMATE - HE REALLY CAN take this mortal mind here and teach us how to literally BECOME DIVINE just as He taught - to have DIRECT ACCESS to the Father at all times...See - this is SUPPOSED to be the job and the authority OF THE CHURCH - only THEY have this ability to "talk to god" and through that they dominate society and are the most powerful leaders OF that society...Let it sink in..

See next - that which Christ taught legitimately makes the church immediately OBSOLETE - not needed - in fact, its a hinderance and an obstacle He said - because if you follow religion, man dogma, doctrine - then of course, you will miss entirely the legitimate INNER PERSONAL COMMUNION - filled with truth from another external source always, you will miss that vital legitimate truth within....

Quit babbling like a pagan He said - yes..?..No more useless never ending begging prayers and fawning supplications - no more useless rituals either He said - SHUN the religion - when you seek the Father, avoid the temple entirely He said,but go alone and invoke this Presence within..

To follow ME - you all MUST come to HATE your parents He warned us - didnt He.?...He means - their TRUTHS and traditions - He came to dismantle and replace it, not to continue it..lol..

When the priests realised what He was about - they MURDERED Him to silence His direct threat to their authority...Same priesthood, with same god now in religious "christianity" yes..?...Through their manufactured bible - they have WITH HELD that crucial Holy Ghost from you all - and made you fully believe that you are "unworthy" to have such a precious gift..They say you (all) are a "lost and hopeless sinner" - and only church can "save you"...lol..(if you only knew His truth youd laugh to I assure you)....

They say and make you believe that THEY alone, the clergy have this Holy Ghost - but I can assure you this is simply not so at all - and uts realy easy to prove - your common vicar preaching sermons on Sunday has next to NO IDEA of Christ legitimate truth..How could he..?.. Just like all the lay people - the common priest has been lied to and duped by those who hold authority over you all..Round in a circle they lead you...

Easy to prove - as said HOLY GHOST...You say above - and I agree - that a TRUE follower of Christ would have this essential tool available, this Holy Ghot infallable guide...VERY TRUE I absolutely agree........So - question - how come - the man who teaches us "bible truth" - the vicar preacher we see face to face in church - how come to become a CATHOLIC priest, you MUST ATTEND PRIEST SCHOOL - to be taught,and first INDOCTRINATED your self BEFORE you then go on to teach and INDOCTRINATE others on behalf of church..>SEE..???....

IF they had the Holy Ghost as REQUIRED to be legitimate - then they would not need any priest school to teach them Divine truth - the HOLY GHOST is supposed to do that ALWAYS......isnt it..??...Yes - seek THAT and only that He said...I can show you if need..

The very fact that a priest MUST go to school and be taught what to say and think and how to act - tells us explicitly beyond any doubt that they do NOT have any such legitimate Divine connection themselves....The priest who taught the common masses was in turn taught by his own boss above - HEIRACHY of domination...Those at the top fully understand Christ, and have used His legitimate truth against you all, to with hold from you vital Self understanding and legitimate inner communion, and replaced it instead with a doctrine of "you are not worthy and always need church intermediary to save you"......They have stolen truth from you , gave you lies and half truths - then led you around in a self containing circle by telling you the bible is the ONLY source of truth and forbidding all other sources as "herasy".....

Do you begin to see..??....Take the religous blinkers off...

 

[URAVIP2ME]

John 17:3 states: "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." So there is only one true God. How do we know that the god we worship is the true God? He must have the three following attributes:
1. Omnipotent - having all power; almighty
2. Omnipresent - present everywhere at the same time
3. Omniscient - knowing everything, including what happened in the past and knowing what will happen in the future.
If you were to worship a god, be sure that He is the true God.

1. Not omnipotent because there are things the true God can Not do. God can Not lie, steal, cheat, etc - Titus 1:2; Hebrews 6:18
2. Not omnipresent because God has a specific location, a specific home, according to 1 Kings 8:30; 1 Kings 8:39; 1 Kings 8:49. Our Father which art ( located ) in ' Heaven '.
3. Not omniscient because God gifted mankind with free-will choices. So, God does Not interfere with what WE decide WE want to do. God does Not force us to serve or Not serve Him.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

The following verses prove of His being omniscient:
Isaiah 43:9, 12
Isaiah 44:7-8
Isaiah 45:21
Isaiah 46:10
Isaiah 47:13
Isaiah 48:3, 5-8

Yes, God does tell the end, etc. but Not our personal end. God tells the beginning (Genesis) and the happy end climax that earth's nations will be healed at Revelation 22:2
The person who endures to the end will be saved - Matthew 24:13
We choose to serve or Not serve God because we can change our minds whenever we want to.
So, God knows the future of the Earth ( Ecclesiastes 1:4 B; Matthew 5:5 ), but as to who will be part of that future is unknown. - Matthew 25:31-33
If already known, then there would be No need for Jesus to act as Judge at the soon coming ' time of separation' on Earth between the humble 'sheep' and haughty 'goats'.

 

[First Baseman]

Hi Folks..

First Baseman;

The clue and rather obvious answer is in your own statement - BY THE CHURCH - understand..??...THEY ALONE gave you(s) all this truth - didnt they..?..Yes - they tortured and murdered thousands,destroyed legitimate ORIGINAL knowledge and wisdom, and replaced it with ENFORCED catholic doctrine that they said is the ONLY PERMITTED form...yes..??...Check out the crusades - check out the inquissition - check out the many many "witch trials" etc etc...they have systematically closed off all spiritual knowldge except that which THEY deem as "authentic"..

They could then (and have) tell you anything they want you to believe - and you all would have no option but to swallow every word they said...They HAVE lied and manipulated the truth all ways around...

Your last part is CRUCIAL - HOLY GHOST - it ALL rests on that just as you say...A LEGITIMATE phenomena I can personally vouch for - also intimately related to Kundalini, let me tell you - when the Christian speaks of "being born again" to receive Christ, this is VERY TRUE, but poorly understood in the Bible (on purpose, they dont want you to know this at all)..It is a legitimate and primarily ENERGETIC change - literally - the mind begns to operate differently as this legitimate communion becomes firm, and so emotions and the body likewise follows in due course until eventually ht eperson is copletly re made with this new MIND - new Self Awareness AS a part of a unified Sovereign Spirit, Our Father..

That would be the Holy Ghost according to Christ directly - a PERSONAL COMMUNION that literally EVERYONE is capable of RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW....But look and understand clearly - Christ gave us that PERSONAL ACCESS - direct mortal mind here communing with the fully Divine Source of ALL creation....YES - He said this access - this KINGDOM - is to be found WITHIN US - each and every one of us RIGHT NOW, can invoke this INNER Divine Presence (the Holy Ghost).....See then - the implications ..??...

We DONT NEED A PRIEST - a religion - a pope - a guru or any middleman at all - NOBODY ELSE can take you to this inner communion EXCEPT your own Self....In modern plain English - Christ said QUIT following everyone else - especially the religion which He despised,and I can show you all clearly He truly DID despise it...Shun all that He said - seek always and only for this INNER communion and this legitimate Presence that WILL come forth He promised, and I vouch it really works...

So, the early church realised HE IS LEGITIMATE - HE REALLY CAN take this mortal mind here and teach us how to literally BECOME DIVINE just as He taught - to have DIRECT ACCESS to the Father at all times...See - this is SUPPOSED to be the job and the authority OF THE CHURCH - only THEY have this ability to "talk to god" and through that they dominate society and are the most powerful leaders OF that society...Let it sink in..

See next - that which Christ taught legitimately makes the church immediately OBSOLETE - not needed - in fact, its a hinderance and an obstacle He said - because if you follow religion, man dogma, doctrine - then of course, you will miss entirely the legitimate INNER PERSONAL COMMUNION - filled with truth from another external source always, you will miss that vital legitimate truth within....

Quit babbling like a pagan He said - yes..?..No more useless never ending begging prayers and fawning supplications - no more useless rituals either He said - SHUN the religion - when you seek the Father, avoid the temple entirely He said,but go alone and invoke this Presence within..

To follow ME - you all MUST come to HATE your parents He warned us - didnt He.?...He means - their TRUTHS and traditions - He came to dismantle and replace it, not to continue it..lol..

When the priests realised what He was about - they MURDERED Him to silence His direct threat to their authority...Same priesthood, with same god now in religious "christianity" yes..?...Through their manufactured bible - they have WITH HELD that crucial Holy Ghost from you all - and made you fully believe that you are "unworthy" to have such a precious gift..They say you (all) are a "lost and hopeless sinner" - and only church can "save you"...lol..(if you only knew His truth youd laugh to I assure you)....

They say and make you believe that THEY alone, the clergy have this Holy Ghost - but I can assure you this is simply not so at all - and uts realy easy to prove - your common vicar preaching sermons on Sunday has next to NO IDEA of Christ legitimate truth..How could he..?.. Just like all the lay people - the common priest has been lied to and duped by those who hold authority over you all..Round in a circle they lead you...

Easy to prove - as said HOLY GHOST...You say above - and I agree - that a TRUE follower of Christ would have this essential tool available, this Holy Ghot infallable guide...VERY TRUE I absolutely agree........So - question - how come - the man who teaches us "bible truth" - the vicar preacher we see face to face in church - how come to become a CATHOLIC priest, you MUST ATTEND PRIEST SCHOOL - to be taught,and first INDOCTRINATED your self BEFORE you then go on to teach and INDOCTRINATE others on behalf of church..>SEE..???....

IF they had the Holy Ghost as REQUIRED to be legitimate - then they would not need any priest school to teach them Divine truth - the HOLY GHOST is supposed to do that ALWAYS......isnt it..??...Yes - seek THAT and only that He said...I can show you if need..

The very fact that a priest MUST go to school and be taught what to say and think and how to act - tells us explicitly beyond any doubt that they do NOT have any such legitimate Divine connection themselves....The priest who taught the common masses was in turn taught by his own boss above - HEIRACHY of domination...Those at the top fully understand Christ, and have used His legitimate truth against you all, to with hold from you vital Self understanding and legitimate inner communion, and replaced it instead with a doctrine of "you are not worthy and always need church intermediary to save you"......They have stolen truth from you , gave you lies and half truths - then led you around in a self containing circle by telling you the bible is the ONLY source of truth and forbidding all other sources as "herasy".....

Do you begin to see..??....Take the religous blinkers off...

No matter how much you try to build up your Argumentum ad hominem argument it is still just Argumentum ad hominem.

You are the one who doesn't see or believe in the Holy Spirit and therein lies your problem. Please don't discuss things you know nothing about.

 

[PeteC-UK]

Hi Folks...

First Baseman - Oh please - what are you saying - if it aint in the bible it aint "gods truth"..?...lol...Wise Up mate...

I can show you exactly how your bible canon came to be - fully admitted and documented even by the Catholics that made it up - lol - and I can show you Christs original truth alongside that the church banned you form knowing...I can describe the Holy Ghost to you directly and I can show you how to achieve it for your Self - again,with held from you by the church but the truth of Christ gives it freely to one and all..

.So please - open your own mind first before you tell me I know nothing about the things I discuss - as everything you yourself know here, comes solely from a self enclosed religion that I can prove beyond any doubt is corrupt, deceptive and not aligned with Christ teaching at all..Indeed, it is YOU who know nothing about His truth as they trapped your mind in their doctrine and forbad you to even aoproach Him legitiimatley....

Perhaps I should just quote endless ORIGINAL scripture until the truth finally dawns for you...Or if you are so convinced out of hand that Iam wrong, present a specific point and I will show you WHY I hold that position - or better yet - I will show you why CHRIST held that positiom also

THINK for your self - despite what they said - it is allowed - encouraged even He said...Heres a good place to start...ask yourself - why do you think they murdered Him..??..

 

[savagewind]

Ad hominem means a personal attack. Who is @PeteC-UK personally attacking? The Bible? LOL. FYI, the Bible is not a person.

 

[First Baseman]

Ad hominem means a personal attack. Who is @PeteC-UK personally attacking? The Bible? LOL. FYI, the Bible is not a person.

The Roman Catholic Church and the men filled with the Spirit who indoctrinated the books now in the Bible. Isn't it obvious?

 

[First Baseman]

Hi Folks...

First Baseman - Oh please - what are you saying - if it aint in the bible it aint "gods truth"..?...lol...Wise Up mate...

I can show you exactly how your bible canon came to be - fully admitted and documented even by the Catholics that made it up - lol - and I can show you Christs original truth alongside that the church banned you form knowing...I can describe the Holy Ghost to you directly and I can show you how to achieve it for your Self - again,with held from you by the church but the truth of Christ gives it freely to one and all..

.So please - open your own mind first before you tell me I know nothing about the things I discuss - as everything you yourself know here, comes solely from a self enclosed religion that I can prove beyond any doubt is corrupt, deceptive and not aligned with Christ teaching at all..Indeed, it is YOU who know nothing about His truth as they trapped your mind in their doctrine and forbad you to even aoproach Him legitiimatley....

Perhaps I should just quote endless ORIGINAL scripture until the truth finally dawns for you...Or if you are so convinced out of hand that Iam wrong, present a specific point and I will show you WHY I hold that position - or better yet - I will show you why CHRIST held that positiom also

THINK for your self - despite what they said - it is allowed - encouraged even He said...Heres a good place to start...ask yourself - why do you think they murdered Him..??..

Are you filled with the Holy Spirit?

 

[savagewind]

The Roman Catholic Church and the men filled with the Spirit who indoctrinated the books now in the Bible. Isn't it obvious?

See the root word of "personal". PERSON. NOT group. OK?

 

[savagewind]

Are you filled with the Holy Spirit?

I'll vouch for him.

 

[savagewind]

They keep on tryng to put bunches of men together and then call them the Holy Spirit. God, will the madness ever end?

 

[First Baseman]

See the root word of "personal". PERSON. NOT group. OK?

It's the same thing. Stop trying to troll me.

 

[First Baseman]

I'll vouch for him.

Yeah, like that really means a lot.

 

[First Baseman]

They keep on tryng to put bunches of men together and then call them the Holy Spirit. God, will the madness ever end?

Yours will, that's for sure.

 

[First Baseman]

You are the babiest baby I ever met. THAT, my dear, Is TROLLING. Please use your words correctly.

Because I won't let you troll me without calling you out on it? Yeah, I'm a baby in your twisted mind I guess.