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How to search for truth when there are *so many* belief systems

truthseeker1111

truthseeker1111

New Member
Hi all!

So glad we have this forum where I could ask this.

I was raised religious, but came to realize in adolescence that other children are raised in other faiths / belief systems , and the fact that I was handed down my tradition doesn't automatically mean it's true.

So I want to know which religion / belief system / world-view is true, if any. My natural instinct is to look into the various belief systems in the world. But Wikipedia tells me there are more than 4,000 religions in the world! And I'm guessing that doesn't necessarily include the non-theistic belief systems.

Just to clarify what I mean by "true"... I think that all world-views have truth in them - eg all religions properly practiced can give a person peace and harmony with others and happiness. But which one or ones, if any, are historically and ontologically correct. Which one is not just a bunch of myths, but is historically factual, and which one(s)' portrayal of reality is commensurate with the way reality really is?

To go through the more than 4000 systems seems very daunting, and yet, how else?

So my question is - how to approach all this, and how to proceed?

(and if ultimately the truth is inaccessible to me, I'd like to at least get the best understanding of reality that I can).

Thanks!
 
jeager106

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
"Which one is not just a bunch of myths, but is historically factual, and which one(s)' portrayal of reality is commensurate with the way reality really is?"

If anyone knew the answer to that and could back up the claim of which
religion was true we'd likely be following that particular religion.
Most all religions and denominations within those religions can and are
challenged by the believers in other religions.
We are right is the cry, or W.A.R. or WAR.
Belief in a particular renders down to faith.
Faith is something that can neither be proven nor dis-proven.
What religion has documented evidence that lends one to believe that religion
has some bases in facts?
Well....

Is the existence of Jesus historically proven?

In 90A.D. the Jewish historian Flavium Josephus, in his work entitled Antiquities (Book 18, Chapter 3 Para. 3), reported on the historical existence of Jesus as follows:
"Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man; for he was a doer of wonderful works, a teacher of such men as received the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews and many of the Gentiles. He was the Christ. And when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men among us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him: for he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him."

Other sources besides the Bible testify to the life of Jesus. For example Tacitus, the Roman historian, Suetonius, the Roman court official under the Emperor Hadrian, and Pliny the Younger, the Roman governor of Bithnia in Asia Minor.

So it's reasonable to conclude then that Jesus did exist.

Other than that I can't say.
 
Deeje

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
You are right, one cannot be born into a religion. You must choose it with your own mind and heart. If there is one God, logically, there is one faith....the rest are a paths leading nowhere.

If you are one that God wants as a citizen in his kingdom, (he is a reader of hearts and motives) then he will find you.....he will present his truth to you and your heart will respond to it.

Just ask God to show you the way and don't dismiss what your heart responds to until you have heard everything about it.
If you are humble and genuine, God will introduce himself to you and you will know it is the truth because you will feel a conviction and excitement to know more.
 
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Martin_M

New Member
truthseeker1111 said:
Hi all!

So glad we have this forum where I could ask this.

I was raised religious, but came to realize in adolescence that other children are raised in other faiths / belief systems , and the fact that I was handed down my tradition doesn't automatically mean it's true.

So I want to know which religion / belief system / world-view is true, if any. My natural instinct is to look into the various belief systems in the world. But Wikipedia tells me there are more than 4,000 religions in the world! And I'm guessing that doesn't necessarily include the non-theistic belief systems.

Just to clarify what I mean by "true"... I think that all world-views have truth in them - eg all religions properly practiced can give a person peace and harmony with others and happiness. But which one or ones, if any, are historically and ontologically correct. Which one is not just a bunch of myths, but is historically factual, and which one(s)' portrayal of reality is commensurate with the way reality really is?

To go through the more than 4000 systems seems very daunting, and yet, how else?

So my question is - how to approach all this, and how to proceed?

(and if ultimately the truth is inaccessible to me, I'd like to at least get the best understanding of reality that I can).

Thanks!
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I can only point you to my favorite example of someone asking the same question. https://www.lds.org/scriptures/pgp/js-h/1?lang=eng&tst=st1_cnt_ns
 
FearGod

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
truthseeker1111 said:
Hi all!

So glad we have this forum where I could ask this.

I was raised religious, but came to realize in adolescence that other children are raised in other faiths / belief systems , and the fact that I was handed down my tradition doesn't automatically mean it's true.

So I want to know which religion / belief system / world-view is true, if any. My natural instinct is to look into the various belief systems in the world. But Wikipedia tells me there are more than 4,000 religions in the world! And I'm guessing that doesn't necessarily include the non-theistic belief systems.

Just to clarify what I mean by "true"... I think that all world-views have truth in them - eg all religions properly practiced can give a person peace and harmony with others and happiness. But which one or ones, if any, are historically and ontologically correct. Which one is not just a bunch of myths, but is historically factual, and which one(s)' portrayal of reality is commensurate with the way reality really is?

To go through the more than 4000 systems seems very daunting, and yet, how else?

So my question is - how to approach all this, and how to proceed?

(and if ultimately the truth is inaccessible to me, I'd like to at least get the best understanding of reality that I can).

Thanks!
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Do you believe that the creator of the universe is one God or several Gods?
Which make more sense to you?
 
HonestJoe

HonestJoe

Well-Known Member
truthseeker1111 said:
To go through the more than 4000 systems seems very daunting, and yet, how else?

So my question is - how to approach all this, and how to proceed?
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Ignore the belief systems entirely. The most effective way to determine what is true is to start without any of those assumptions, assertions and biases. After all, even of the belief systems that actually purport to be a path to “truth” are typically much more complex than that and confused or corrupted over time.

It also seems highly likely that we can never know the whole truth of everything, especially not our current generation. We may well be each able to play out part in expanding human understanding of things but that’s still going to be a tiny chip off the mountain. I personally think we’d do much better focusing on the local and immediate truths of our lives and the people around us. We’ll probably die knowing little more about the universe than we were born with but we will hopefully be more content with that fact.
 
Aiviu

Aiviu

Active Member
truthseeker1111 said:
Hi all!

So glad we have this forum where I could ask this.

I was raised religious, but came to realize in adolescence that other children are raised in other faiths / belief systems , and the fact that I was handed down my tradition doesn't automatically mean it's true.

So I want to know which religion / belief system / world-view is true, if any. My natural instinct is to look into the various belief systems in the world. But Wikipedia tells me there are more than 4,000 religions in the world! And I'm guessing that doesn't necessarily include the non-theistic belief systems.

Just to clarify what I mean by "true"... I think that all world-views have truth in them - eg all religions properly practiced can give a person peace and harmony with others and happiness. But which one or ones, if any, are historically and ontologically correct. Which one is not just a bunch of myths, but is historically factual, and which one(s)' portrayal of reality is commensurate with the way reality really is?

To go through the more than 4000 systems seems very daunting, and yet, how else?

So my question is - how to approach all this, and how to proceed?

(and if ultimately the truth is inaccessible to me, I'd like to at least get the best understanding of reality that I can).

Thanks!
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Which reasons for you to seek a certain truth? Dont you recognize what is real as you live to be real? Or is there something you wish to know in a certainty? Do you see yourself as sinful? Do you see you miss something? Do you live to the fullest? Do you asking yourself about after life?

In actions we dont realize what is truth but we can sense ourselves as alive. That creates a futurely memory and a certain truth for you. The other will have a copy for themselves to this very moment which also will tell them the truth for them. Which meaning this moment made for them. Somewhen.

So what religion should point you to? They will throw you back on what i told you. Memories are somewhat hard to suffering in. But the more suffer it creates as its past or even had forgotten the higher the meaning was to you. Anyways. I think i miss to answer you question somewhere....
 
FearGod

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Rick O'Shez said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nontheistic_religions
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We have to avoid philosophical thoughts to search for the truth.

Religions that based on the notion that there's no God are philosophical and from men's illusion and that can't be regard as the truth.
In short it's either to believe there's a creator or there's none, in case if there's no creator then everyone can have his own religion
which IOW his own way of life.
 
Rick O'Shez

Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
FearGod said:
...then everyone can have his own religion which IOW his own way of life.
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And what's wrong with that? Surely it's better than trying to fit in with a dubious set of religious beliefs, or clutching at some comforting metaphysical speculations.
 
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Torah4Yah

Member
truthseeker1111 said:
Hi all!

So glad we have this forum where I could ask this.

I was raised religious, but came to realize in adolescence that other children are raised in other faiths / belief systems , and the fact that I was handed down my tradition doesn't automatically mean it's true.

So I want to know which religion / belief system / world-view is true, if any. My natural instinct is to look into the various belief systems in the world. But Wikipedia tells me there are more than 4,000 religions in the world! And I'm guessing that doesn't necessarily include the non-theistic belief systems.

Just to clarify what I mean by "true"... I think that all world-views have truth in them - eg all religions properly practiced can give a person peace and harmony with others and happiness. But which one or ones, if any, are historically and ontologically correct. Which one is not just a bunch of myths, but is historically factual, and which one(s)' portrayal of reality is commensurate with the way reality really is?

To go through the more than 4000 systems seems very daunting, and yet, how else?

So my question is - how to approach all this, and how to proceed?

(and if ultimately the truth is inaccessible to me, I'd like to at least get the best understanding of reality that I can).

Thanks!
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Torah4Yah

Member
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If you are looking for the truth it can't be found in the bible. It isn't taught in any church. Faith and grace are not what YHWH (Yahowah) taught. YHWH taught know what he said and trust in it. Know and trust is diametrically different. I have two friends that are on a team that has been translating the dss (Dead Sea scrolls) the Qumran scrolls the oldest extant text we have today found in the 1940's if you want to know the truth it is in this text I have 75% of these scrolls translated in the way God intended his words to be understood. I can email you the files if you like and give you a link to a 3000 page book explaining how they did the translation what they used and why. The bible any way you pick it apart originates from the masoretic text a already corrupted writing. I put an image of a verse as an example of how different the bible reads verses the truth
 
LuisDantas

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
truthseeker1111 said:
So my question is - how to approach all this, and how to proceed?
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Ultimately, of course, that is for you to answer. Still, if I may, there are some questions that I think are worth addressing:

- Consider the likely implications of that diversity of beliefs. Can it even make sense that people have to "bet" on the "right" belief?

- What does it mean to hold wrong or correct religious beliefs?

- What, if anything, can or should be done to validate or improve one's religious stances?
 
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