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How we know that there was no Flood of Noah.

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
How ridiculous. There is no argument given here, at all, for connecting the Milky Way, even if perceived as being a "river", with any flood myth.

What a load of tosh.
I have even less respect for New Age mysticism than I do for ancient religions. At least they had a valid excuse for their ignorance.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Probably cuz they are. They deny stuff that are basically facts aboutour geological history so they can deny the Bible. They act like they're brilliant and superior when most of them have never built anything, or personally discovered anything. They're just referring to what old men in glasses say, not understanding some of them have political agendas and others are senile.

To answer the question, no that's not my midterm linked there. Mine was based on a newspaper article about an underground cave found inside the Alps that showed a water line long ago. It's like this. When a rock area is submerged for a great deal of time, there are water lines. It's not that these dry off. Rather they discolor the rock in such a way that you can always tell that at one point the water was this height. We had relative evidence about how size inside this mountain melted then later refroze. But as you can see from that article, flooding happened in places other than just the Alps.
It doesn't really quite work that way. *Grin*

You can get a better idea of understanding rocks and water first hand for yourself with a simple experiment anyone can perform at home. Not to mention a good first hands-on experience with actual science. Aside from senile old men and glasses. :0)

Do rocks dissolve?
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Thanks Audie for taking the time to respond to one of my posts. I don't think we have interacted before, it is always nice to get a response to something you say just so you know someone is listening. I only wish I had made a better impression.



Yes, you can, I will not argue with you there. I do not feel I am the brightest bulb in the pack. I do not have a degree in Physics or Geology. I did like the Mathematics and Physics classes I took and always got A's, can't remember ever getting a A- or below. Now on Geology I did not do so good, even though ironically it seems like I do more work in that field.



The only problem with this is that you say 'There Used to be people...' I guess there still are people like that, I would claim that and even believe it is possible. I would put electrodes into a container of water and separate the hydrogen and oxygen in separate containers and burn that in my car.

But I guess I tend to believe almost anything
. I always thought the question 'is the glass half full or half empty' as silly and would answer it is full and overflowing.

Of course it is possible to run a car on water, in the sense
that you can drink sawdust. My reference was to charlatans
who claim to have invented something that makes it practical.
Cannot be done. A little education helps to guard one against
such.

If it in any way maters to you whether "god" ever committed
a horrific atrocity in the form of a "flood", you might look into it. Or might not. I wish you well.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
I go by what the Bible says.

-Water burst out from within the earth and fell from the sky.
-Every mountain peak was covered by water.
-From the first day of the flood event, rain fell for 40 days.
-Five months after the first day of the flood event (150 days), the water started to recede.
-On the first of the tenth month (which I presume is 74 days later based on other dates given), the tops of mountains are visible again. Although this is a bit ambiguous. Is it a statement that mountaintops were now visible just from Noah's perspective on the ark while resting on mount ararat, or that this is when mountains over the whole earth first would be visible even though no one was left alive to witness them?
-After another 40 days Noah starts testing the extent of the flood waters receding by sending out a raven.
-After 7 days he tried again with a dove, and a dove returned with a fresh olive branch.
-After 7 more days he did it again, but the dove did not return.
-On the first of the first month (which I presume is 7 days later), the water was dried up from the earth.
-On the 27th of the 2nd month (which I presume is 56 days later), the water on the earth was completely dry. And then God told Noah to leave the ark.
-From the first day of the flood event to leaving the ark, it was presumably 370 days.

I await you attempting to prove this never happened.

Nearly all of this is more or less like trying to prove what
rock Jesus pissed on when he was 12.

However--From the first day of the flood event,

If by flood event,you mean a world wide
flood, that did not happen so the rest is moot.


It is of course, not strictly accurate to say you
go by what the bible says. You choose go with
your chosen reading. The bible also says the hills
will clap, and some few other things that one might
not want to take too literally.

But regardless..

There are various ways to show that the flood is
but a myth. The existence of polar ice that
predates any possible time for the flood will do.

Of course, if you've decided the what is what
ahead of time, you are not suitable for jury duty.

Tho you might make a fine defendant. Lets see..
third world, crime you didnt commit, but the
judge, jury and prosecution all feel you did.
And they will not look at the defense evidence.

No prob tho, right? Your standards, applied to
yourself, it is only fair.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
In the interests of staying on topic one might just
disirregard such diversions.
I love "disirregard". Is that a Bushism?

Reminds me of a great remark by (inevitably :rolleyes:) a sports commentator: "Let me recapitulate back to what I said previously."
 
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Audie

Veteran Member
I love "disirregard". Is that a Bushism?

Reminds me of a great remark by (inevitably :rolleyes:) a sports commentator: (Let me recapitulate back to what I said previously."

I dont know, but it sure sounds like him.

It also occurs as "disirregardless".
 

sealchan

Well-Known Member
Here it is again. "Everything was the same as today so... never happened.":grinning:
Keep the amusement coming... save me going to the park. Although that would be much nicer. :) Where did I mention anything about a flood from the video again? :smirk:

You posted a video and then you quoted from the Noah Genesis story...in a thread about the Flood. Sorry, if I got confused.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
OK. People with no TVs, computer games, magazines, radios, &c tend to sit around a lot making up stories; stories involving familiar things, themselves and their world. This isn't science, it's not inspiration, they're just stories.
 
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nPeace

Veteran Member
Let's try a general explanation first. I assume that you do not believe that God lies. If all of the evidence out there tells us that there was no flood. and that evidence is somehow wrong that evidence would have to have been created, the only being with the power of creation in the Bible is God. By you claiming that all of the evidence is wrong you are in essence claiming that God lied. Now if you want a rundown of the evidence I could go on and on, or you could watch those videos that bothered you so much. I did not link them, but AronRa is correct about the evidence that he presents.

When one deals with people on the order of @Rise all of the time the language of AronRa is more than reasonable.
o_O
You mean I came to this thread looking for you to present the so called proof you claim you have that the flood could not have happen, and you are now telling me that the only way I can see that proof, is by looking at videos from a filthy mouth man? :confused:
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This is even funnier than when I began.
That's why I love the Bible, and this is another reason I know it tells the truth.
:laughing:
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
The mountain. People have described it for thousands of years. No sudden changes are described.
Things can be dated, growth rates and rates of change can be calculated. We can learn the history of the mountain by dating rocks, strata, moraines &c. We can examine phytoliths, growth rings, pollen, human and animal artifacts on the mountain.
Can you kindly provide me with a link to this information - a credible source please. I don't want to watch no video with no man cussing. Thanks.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
o_O
You mean I came to this thread looking for you to present the so called proof you claim you have that the flood could not have happen, and you are now telling me that the only way I can see that proof, is by looking at videos from a filthy mouth man? :confused:
rolling-on-the-floor-laughing_1f923.png


This is even funnier than when I began.
That's why I love the Bible, and this is another reason I know it tells the truth.
:laughing:

I am so sorry that you are so immature that you can't handle a bit of coarse language. You too are guilty of poor behavior and would have earned that language if you dealt with him. Also I never said that was the only way to learn. Why do you constantly make false claims about others?

Can you act like an adult here? Or are you going to maintain a belief that is no different from a belief in Santa Claus?

One last question, why do you worship a lying God?
 
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