It is people who think like that who are debased. If the god character exists, and is as evil as the Bible depicts, humans should be finding a way of exterminating it.
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It is people who think like that who are debased. If the god character exists, and is as evil as the Bible depicts, humans should be finding a way of exterminating it.
Spartan
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It is people who think like that who are debased. If the god character exists, and is as evil as the Bible depicts, humans should be finding a way of exterminating it.
Exterminating God? LOL. Have you seen the ruins of Sodom and Gomorrah?
Associates for Biblical Research - The Discovery of the Sin Cities of Sodom and Gomorrah
If those places existed and were destroyed, I bet it was a natural disaster and nothing to do with any god having a temper tantrum.
MJFlores
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You must be talking about another book. But the Bible defines LOVE
1 Corinthians 13 New International Version (NIV)
If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast, but do not have love, I gain nothing.
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part, but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears. When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.
You must be talking about another book. But the Bible defines LOVE
1 Corinthians 13 New International Version (NIV)
If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast, but do not have love, I gain nothing.
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part, but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears. When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.
That book might define it, however the god character doesn't put it into practise.
Spartan
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So far God has saved over one billion people from going to hell. So that beats the dickens out of your #1 love hero.
What a load of nonsense, you have made that up!
Spartan
Well-Known Member
Nope, there's over a billion Christians in the world. And more who have passed on through the ages.
You know that for a fact do you? Even if that were true, how many Christians see it your way, my Christian children don't for a start?
Oh hang on, your next comment is likely be that they can't be Christians, as your take on the faith is the only true one !
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Thief
Rogue Theologian
choice?...yeah
I had to decide what to believe
but I have reasoned my choice to be correct
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
You mean other than the hocus pocus parts? Besides, that's not how burden of proof works.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Since he created hell and sends people there for not sucking on his toes, that's called extorting not "saving".
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
My God is also the God of Love, the same God you worship.
3: O SON OF MAN! Veiled in My immemorial being and in the ancient eternity of My essence, I knew My love for thee; therefore I created thee, have engraved on thee Mine image and revealed to thee My beauty.
4: O SON OF MAN! I loved thy creation, hence I created thee. Wherefore, do thou love Me, that I may name thy name and fill thy soul with the spirit of life.
5: O SON OF BEING! Love Me, that I may love thee. If thou lovest Me not, My love can in no wise reach thee. Know this, O servant.
The Hidden Words of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 4
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
An you know that how?
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
And you know that how?the evil god character
InChrist
Free4ever
I am really not implying anything and I'm not sure what led you to conclude I was. I know plenty of non-believers. I agree with you and it is so true that you or I cannot know who is sincere or who is not, only God knows the motives of each person's heart and thoughts. Yet, I have noticed that some people openly and blatantly express their hostility toward even the idea of God and make every effort to let others know their feelings. So it does make me wonder if such a person is sincere in even actually knowing whether there is Creator God, but again God knows their inward being and thoughts.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
I see it basically the same way you do. Of course it is only my opinion about certain people, an impression, but just from what people say we can know how they think and feel in their conscious mind. If a nonbeliever says that they are searching and open to a God existing that is a whole lot different from one who openly says they hate God and would not want to know God even if God exists. There is nowhere to go with the latter. They have made their choice, unless they choose to change it later.
You don't know for a fact a god exists, it is only a belief.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
I wouldn't care if there were no afterlife. I would simply live this life as fully and meaningfully as I could, as if it's the only shot I have. IOW, the way I'm living it now.
But if it were proven that God didn't exist, all the color would go out of life for me. The universe would no longer have its music. My life would no longer have meaning, because "making my own meaning" is simply fraud. Everything would be two dimensional. I think I would become cynical, depressed, and jaded. I would care about things a great deal less. I would try less hard to be a virtuous person. I would probably save my kindness for family and friends. Well that's what I think would happen.
It's not what I hope would happen. I would hope that I would be the atheist in Camus' The Plague, who wanted to be a Saint even though there was no God. I would hope that I would want to continue to care and be virtuous, even though there was no real reason to do so, to live "as if" there were a God. Why? Because it would create a better life for myself and all those around me.
If it could be proved beyond all doubt no god or afterlife exists, for me that would be the best news ever.