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How would you react..........

InChrist

Free4ever
…...........if it could be proved beyond any shadow of doubt no god or afterlife exist, when you die you are no more?

I would be relieved that once my life is over that is it, end of story. I am of the opinion that is the case, but of course there is the outside possibility I am wrong.

I have asked this question on forums before, often the reaction from devout believers is that god/afterlife exist and there is no other possibility.

Over to you.
Let us know when that proof beyond a shadow of a doubt is available that God or eternal life is non-existent.... then I will react.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
…...........if it could be proved beyond any shadow of doubt no god or afterlife exist, when you die you are no more?

I would be relieved that once my life is over that is it, end of story. I am of the opinion that is the case, but of course there is the outside possibility I am wrong.

I have asked this question on forums before, often the reaction from devout believers is that god/afterlife exist and there is no other possibility.

Over to you.
I would find that pretty depressing. Life's short enough as it is.
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Amazingly windy, but very roundabout way of denying that "ultimate reality" is anything other than "that which is." And once you have "that which is," there's really no need to inject anything else to be kind of "boss of that which is." Existence exists...that's its special nature. Really, really mundane, but what're you going to do?
Thou art not far from the truth. ;) It is ultimately "that which is". But how "that which is" is experienced between someone asleep and someone awake, is the literally the difference between night and day. It is anything but "mundane". The mundane, is miraculous. When you can see the mundane as miraculous, then you are truly seeing, "that which is". Or as I would put it, "That Which Is".
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
What need do I have of some fanciful otherworld human "souls" - whatever those are - go to when they are gone? None, really.
all of your post makes sense to me....up to the last line

you see your gods in the physical
you anticipate joining them when your body is reduced to dust

but the part of you that posted the paragraph is not physical
you are a spirit

there's no point in generating billions of copies of a learning device....
a device that by design generated...you
only to have you and everyone else crumble into dust

I believe we enter a dreamscape

mine....yours.....and God's
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
…...........if it could be proved beyond any shadow of doubt no god or afterlife exist, when you die you are no more?

Nothing would change for JW's. We have no belief in the kind of afterlife promoted by Christendom. If there was no God, it simply means we sleep in death forever. Since we would know nothing about it, why would it matter?

I would be relieved that once my life is over that is it, end of story. I am of the opinion that is the case, but of course there is the outside possibility I am wrong.

There are no end of beliefs out there relating to life and death.....when we choose the belief, we also choose the outcome according to the Bible. Since God forces no one to even believe in him, he is giving us all enough rope......:D

Those who do not want what God is offering will never have it forced on them. If they want life to be over at death...they will get their wish. That's fair, isn't it? :)

I have asked this question on forums before, often the reaction from devout believers is that god/afterlife exist and there is no other possibility.

Over to you.

Then those forum members do not know the teachings of their own Bible.

The Bible holds out only two prospects for humankind....life or death. We choose which one appeals to us and then adjust our life and beliefs accordingly.

Since the life God promises is everlasting.....then the opposite of that is also everlasting....death. This is what the Bible teaches. There never was a heaven or hell scenario ever offered as opposite destinations.

So from my perspective I choose to believe in a better life to come...not in heaven, but right here on earth where the Creator put us in the first place. This is where our paradise will be. God always finishes what he starts. ;)
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
It's a pipe dream.

But how would the heterosexual fornicators and the active gay sex crowd react if they knew it was true that unless they repented of their sins and received Christ as their Savior, they would spend eternity in the flames of Hell? What would they do?

They'd probably wonder why this Christ fellow has such a weird, obsessive hangup over sex, and why he would be petty and vindictive enough to retaliate so disproportionately.
 

Spartan

Well-Known Member
They'd probably wonder why this Christ fellow has such a weird, obsessive hangup over sex, and why he would be petty and vindictive enough to retaliate so disproportionately.

The spiritually-challenged crowd would indeed wonder such strange things.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Let us know when that proof beyond a shadow of a doubt is available that God or eternal life is non-existent.... then I will react.

It's a what if question. If I asked you what you would do if you won the lottery, would you actually need to win before you could think what you would do with the winnings? No, so if you don't have the spine to answer, then refrain from spamming the thread with stupid cop-outs.
 

Spartan

Well-Known Member
Surely there is more to spiritually than blindly believing irrational, unsubstantiated, and arbitrary gobbledygook?

You sound like another one - of multitudes - who haven't done their due-diligence studies on the Bible. Here's some recommended reading for you:

"The Historical Jesus," by scholar Dr. Gary Habermas;
"New Evidence that Demands a Verdict," by former skeptic Josh McDowell;
"Baker Encyclopedia of Christian Apologetics," by Dr. Norman Geisler;
"The Case for Christ," by Lee Strobel," and
"The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus," by Dr. Gary Habermas.

I've got a new one on order that I'll probably be adding to the list: "The Case for Miracles," by Lee Strobel
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
…...........if it could be proved beyond any shadow of doubt no god or afterlife exist, when you die you are no more?
I would be an atheist and I would go out and enjoy myself for a while, and then I don't know what I would do.
I cannot see myself ever going back to living for myself and what I used to enjoy, but I could use a little of that, even though I am a believer. :D
I would be relieved that once my life is over that is it, end of story. I am of the opinion that is the case, but of course there is the outside possibility I am wrong.
I don't know why the would be as relief for you. o_O From what you told me before, you have had a pretty enjoyable and fruitful life. Why not want to extend that into an afterlife?

My life has mostly been hell, until fairly recently when I finally turned to God, so for me the idea of living forever if it is anything like this life has not been that appealing. However, because I am very firm in my faith, I know that the afterlife is going to be much better than this life could ever be. I just hope the bulk of my suffering in this life is over, and even if I never suffered one more day, I would have had more than my share. :(
I have asked this question on forums before, often the reaction from devout believers is that god/afterlife exist and there is no other possibility.
No, there is no other possibility and that is why I think people should take the afterlife more seriously, not only nonbelievers but also believers. It is not as simple as believing Jesus died for our sins so we go to heaven... How utterly naive. :rolleyes:
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
You sound like another one - of multitudes - who haven't done their due-diligence studies on the Bible. Here's some recommended reading for you:

"The Historical Jesus," by scholar Dr. Gary Habermas;
"New Evidence that Demands a Verdict," by former skeptic Josh McDowell;
"Baker Encyclopedia of Christian Apologetics," by Dr. Norman Geisler;
"The Case for Christ," by Lee Strobel," and
"The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus," by Dr. Gary Habermas.

I've got a new one on order that I'll probably be adding to the list: "The Case for Miracles," by Lee Strobel

Actually, is it upon critical, objective examination that the bible disintegrates.
 

InChrist

Free4ever
It's a what if question. If I asked you what you would do if you won the lottery, would you actually need to win before you could think what you would do with the winnings? No, so if you don't have the spine to answer, then refrain from spamming the thread with stupid cop-outs.
I did answer, so it's rude to call it a "stupid cop-out", just because you don't like the way I answered. I think what if questions are no more than speculation, since they are not based on reality.

If you asked me what I would do if I won the lottery, I would tell you I would not and could not win the lottery because I do not play the lottery.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
…...........if it could be proved beyond any shadow of doubt no god or afterlife exist, when you die you are no more?

I would be relieved that once my life is over that is it, end of story. I am of the opinion that is the case, but of course there is the outside possibility I am wrong.

I have asked this question on forums before, often the reaction from devout believers is that god/afterlife exist and there is no other possibility.

Over to you.
This "God" + "Creation" riddle is the best riddle I know ... no one can prove to you the solution
 
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