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Howard Stern

skills101

Vicar of Christ
Recently, radio personality Howard Stern has been through a lot with the FCC, making his show even more popular.

All ethics aside, do you believe in his cause, or should he be taken off the air for what he says.
 

skills101

Vicar of Christ
I'll put this the best I can. He believes in the government stopping the major regulation on radio shows, censorship. He says he can't say barely anything any more.

As far as religion, I'm pretty sure he's Jewish.
 

robtex

Veteran Member
More info. What is he saying? Do you listen to his show? I don't so hard to get a prespective on it. I understand it is a lot about sex and politics. I saw a couple documentaries with him in it about a decade ago but I have no recent info. What are the major regulation? It's a tricky game from what I understand. Not so black and white.

I got the idea he was an atheist from here:
http://www.celebatheists.com/entries/atheist_35.html
 

tumble_weed

Member
he was on Letterman a while back he was talking about his new pay for radio service...basically he wants to say potentially offensive stuff on radio...I think its fine if people are paying to hear him say whatever he wants, it doesn't seem to be much of an issue. But generally I don't think that people should get kicked off for saying things that are offensive, even locally a couple of radio presenters have been saying a few bad things about gay people, if you disagree with what they are saying on the radio disagree, ring up, change the station. No one is forcing you to listen. Sure there are people listening who could be offended but that doesn't mean he should be taken off air.
 

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
Howard Stern is no more offencive than Rush Limbaugh, or televangelists that tell you you'll burn in hell for not agreeing with what they think. Ban one and you ban the rest. I may not agree with them but we have Freedom of Speach for a reason.

wa:do
 

huajiro

Well-Known Member
2 things I like about Howard Stern:

He speaks his mind and doesn't change it everyday.
He is equal opportunity, he dishes crap out to everyone equally
 

The Voice of Reason

Doctor of Thinkology
His cause (freedom of speech) is just. His "schtick" on the air is that he exploits women, the mentally retarded, and the young (and stupid) for the sake of entertainment. Without question, he has raised it to an art form. Personally, I don't care for his material, but his stance on freedom of speech is absolutely correct. Obviously, as witnessed by Soutype, there are many that enjoy his show - I just don't happen to be one of them. Certainly, Soultype (or anyone else) has the right to enjoy Stern's show - and this is as it should be. For the government to censor him as they have is definitely wrong.

TVOR
 

The Voice of Reason

Doctor of Thinkology
I just saw the post by Painted Wolf - and I want to go on record as saying that I am more offended by Limbaugh and the televangelists than I could ever be by Stern. As a matter of fact, I'm not really offended by Stern - I just find him sophomoric.

TVOR
 

huajiro

Well-Known Member
The Voice of Reason said:
His cause (freedom of speech) is just. His "schtick" on the air is that he exploits women, the mentally retarded, and the young (and stupid) for the sake of entertainment. Without question, he has raised it to an art form. Personally, I don't care for his material, but his stance on freedom of speech is absolutely correct. Obviously, as witnessed by Soutype, there are many that enjoy his show - I just don't happen to be one of them. Certainly, Soultype (or anyone else) has the right to enjoy Stern's show - and this is as it should be. For the government to censor him as they have is definitely wrong.

TVOR
I don't care for his show either, but I respect him also
 

Lightkeeper

Well-Known Member
I think the way he exploits people outweighs any good in his freedom of speech quest. I think that the airwaves would be much better off without him.
 

huajiro

Well-Known Member
Lightkeeper said:
I think the way he exploits people outweighs any good in his freedom of speech quest. I think that the airwaves would be much better off without him.
As much as I dislike what a lot of people do, some of them are actually are serving a purpose by maintaining our rights.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
I wonder how much of the assault on Howard Stern is motivated by an effort to silence a political critic, and not by genuine concern over profanity?
 

The Voice of Reason

Doctor of Thinkology
Sunstone said:
I wonder how much of the assault on Howard Stern is motivated by an effort to silence a political critic, and not by genuine concern over profanity?
Aha! I see that our good friend Sunstone has cut to the heart of the problem. The effort to censor is almost always grounded in political motivation - hence, the tremendous efforts in America to limit censorship. Unfortunately, those being criticized by Mister Stern also happen to currently be the ones holding the reins of power.

Lightkeeper -
I have the same regard for Stern that you do (which is to say, not much). I am curious - if you had the power to remove him from the air, would you do so?
For what it is worth, I would not. I agree with Huarjiro's point. I don't know what type of material would cross the line into that realm that I would consider "censorable", if anything. I'm interested in your thoughts, Lightkeeper.

TVOR
 

Lightkeeper

Well-Known Member
The Voice of Reason said:
Aha! I see that our good friend Sunstone has cut to the heart of the problem. The effort to censor is almost always grounded in political motivation - hence, the tremendous efforts in America to limit censorship. Unfortunately, those being criticized by Mister Stern also happen to currently be the ones holding the reins of power.

Lightkeeper -
I have the same regard for Stern that you do (which is to say, not much). I am curious - if you had the power to remove him from the air, would you do so?
For what it is worth, I would not. I agree with Huarjiro's point. I don't know what type of material would cross the line into that realm that I would consider "censorable", if anything. I'm interested in your thoughts, Lightkeeper.

TVOR
I would remove Howard Stern on the grounds of air pollution.:) I just do not think he contributes anything of value to society. My feelings have nothing to do with anything political.
 

Ceridwen018

Well-Known Member
He does exploit people, women especially, but I would blame it on the people who go on his show--not him. I mean, what do they think they're getting into? You can't exploit the willing, I don't think.

I think overall, that Howard's a good guy. I mean, I've never met him or anything, but I have seen his show, and he doesn't seem like a jerk or anything like that (as most guys would tend to be with a naked woman standing in front of them, perhaps).
 

skills101

Vicar of Christ
Lightkeeper said:
I would remove Howard Stern on the grounds of air pollution.:) I just do not think he contributes anything of value to society. My feelings have nothing to do with anything political.
I feel the same way about conservative talk shows, because I don't think they're right. But that is my opinion, and I would refuse to force mine on others, and take away their rights to public radio.

I'm not the biggest Stern fan. He can get annoying at times. But I always have the right to turn it off, and let the people who love the show actually listen to it.
 
The Voice of Reason said:
Obviously, as witnessed by Soutype, there are many that enjoy his show - I just don't happen to be one of them.
im not either. personally, i find his smut peddling and universal offensiveness pretty bad. bad to the point of contributing to the decay of our society. but what can you do about it? you change the channel, exercise your consumer choice, that's what you do. you dont give him ratings or help his business. everybody has a personal preference in terms or entertainment.

but i have to say i would love to see him make the comments he makes in the saftey of his radio room to a group of people he's offending. i think he's a spineless jerk.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
I've seen Howard Stern once and once only. I think it was on the E channel. I found how he treats women so disgusting that I've never tuned into him again.
 
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