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That would be a great action movie!
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Humanist Quiz
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That would be a great action movie!
Altfish
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Wow! That's a bold assertion. Needless to say I agree with very little you have written, but that sentence takes the biscuit.
It's a test for secular humanism. I wouldn't think it's possible to get a high score if you have any sort of faith basis to your actions. Not the greatest test in the world.
Altfish
Veteran Member
I think the problem with some religious people when they try to criticise Humanism they assume it is a religion. It is not. Neither is it simply atheism.
We are not imposing our views on anyone, we are not saying we are going to save anyone.
We are not saying this is the answer to the world's problems.
We are simply saying, this is how we will lead our life - if you want to join us, great, if not, no worries
We are not imposing our views on anyone, we are not saying we are going to save anyone.
We are not saying this is the answer to the world's problems.
We are simply saying, this is how we will lead our life - if you want to join us, great, if not, no worries
Augustus
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Maybe you aren't but the 'Amsterdam Declaration' is...
"Humanism is a lifestance aiming at the maximum possible fulfilment through the cultivation of ethical and creative living and offers an ethical and rational means of addressing the challenges of our times. Humanism can be a way of life for everyone everywhere... By utilising free inquiry, the power of science and creative imagination for the furtherance of peace and in the service of compassion, we have confidence that we have the means to solve the problems that confront us all.
We calculate you are 75% humanist.
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
I got 100%. Hurrah!
I got 77% But the test felt skewed. There needs to be more then 4 options, and there was only 1 mention of "gods". So... Idk.
80%, though on some of the answers I had to compromise.
Philosophically so, yes. Humanism looks to the individual for answers to all of life's questions.
Humanism looks to the man for answers, rather than god.
What you describe is humanism if man is in command of himself.
100 percent.
Yes, the options were screwy in many ways, many were not mutually exclusive, and many did not offer a full range of choices. And the other things people have pointed out above. But think about it--it's a group that is advocating a particular worldview, and says in its introduction that many people are humanistic without even knowing it...I've already forgotten, did anyone get zero percent? This looks to be written to show that EVERYONE is at least a little bit humanistic. In order to get more people to read their materials and consider their viewpoint as valid, and maybe even join.
I will note that what this quiz picked up on with me is my belief that all persons should be treated with respect. What it couldn't come up with is that I consider everything in the environment to be at least potentially a person, and worthy of respect, so that humans have no prior claim, no "get out of jail free" card, in dealing with each other, or the environment.
Yes, the options were screwy in many ways, many were not mutually exclusive, and many did not offer a full range of choices. And the other things people have pointed out above. But think about it--it's a group that is advocating a particular worldview, and says in its introduction that many people are humanistic without even knowing it...I've already forgotten, did anyone get zero percent? This looks to be written to show that EVERYONE is at least a little bit humanistic. In order to get more people to read their materials and consider their viewpoint as valid, and maybe even join.
I will note that what this quiz picked up on with me is my belief that all persons should be treated with respect. What it couldn't come up with is that I consider everything in the environment to be at least potentially a person, and worthy of respect, so that humans have no prior claim, no "get out of jail free" card, in dealing with each other, or the environment.
Princeps Eugenius
Active Member
What if god is a "more powerful" man? Think of Jesus.
I think you are making too much of humanism. Humanism looks at the behaviors of the person, the intelligence or being (or individual, or soul, or spirit, or man), and divines natural law from that, from the physical expression. Natural law has no requirement to be made to be expressed physically, because it derives from a physical expression; it has no need to be made to be universal, because it is what is expressed universally in people. If there are cultures that don't reflect that universality, it's because those cultures are "not humanity"--hence the slave trade was possible--and not because those cultures don't conform. (It's also what made the abolition of slavery possible: the lifting of humanity even higher, over and above the economic necessity of a culture.)Assume for a moment, there is no soul and that a person is only physical entity. it follows that there is no "natural law" that can exist independent of a given culture. The fact that natural law has its origins in western philosophy, means that in order for it to become universal- it had to express itself physically by the actions of men through the course of human history. So How does a western idea become universal?
By Force."Humanism" is part of the West's "civilising mission" to re-make humanity in it's own image. To conquer and annilate all cultures that do not conform with this "natural law" so that western culture becomes universal. What does not fit with "human nature" is "unnatural" and "inhuman" and not worthy of existence because it is not "moral". The physical annihiliation of said cultures may contradict the non-physical "laws of nature" but that does not prevent them from happening when the West is convinced of it's "humanity", that we are the "good guys" or when "god is on our side". The "non-physical" morality of natural law over-rides the physical existence of it's opponents.
In order to defend "human rights" or to assert "freedom and democracy" around the world, we wage endless wars to make sure that everyone else complies with our concept of morality. This is true of the 19th century and remains true in the 21st century, because the "morality" rests on the assertion of a non-physical entity and therefore has no obligation to correspond to what we actually do. This is how, no matter how many genocides, wars, persecutions, dictatorships, human rights abuses we commit, we always are the "good guys" because what is "good" has nothing to do with the physical realities of life on earth, or our actions, or their consequences. Natural law is God, and we can worship our "humanity" because it is the image of our perfection irrespective of who we actually are and what we do.
Humanism is hypocrisy; it is not secular, it's not moral, and it is most definetely not universal.
Then it's not humanism.
Princeps Eugenius
Active Member
Lol. Why? You have to be "weak" and "ignorant" in order to be human? Should we all stop doing fitness and never visit schools again?
Just the opposite: you have to be perfect humanity to be humanist.
'Jesus' is conflated: man with god, perfection with imperfection. A very uncohesive character.
Princeps Eugenius
Active Member
So being god is to be imperfect?
Whether or not God is perfect God has nothing to do with humanism.