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"Humans are born as atheists"

ArtieE

Well-Known Member
I did read the link you gave.

Again, a is not a prefix like aglow. It is born of Anti Theist. Two words in conjunction. Now you can change it the way you want.
Nonsense. Even the site I linked to uses the word "atheist" as an example of a word beginning with the prefix a-. Anti- is not a word. It's a prefix. That is why it is listed in a list of prefixes.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
How could a Human being be born an Atheist?

Anti Theist means Anti God put simply. Or Anti Divine.

How could a new born be anti anything? How could a child be Anti God or against the concept of God when it doesnt know or have not heard shi(t about God??
Firedragon, go back and read through the posts. This whole thread is about definitions; about religious people -- or just people unfamiliar with the issue -- trying to impose an archaic definition of atheism on a group using the term only to denote a lack of belief.
The title of this thread is: "humans are born atheists." The OP means born without belief, not born rejecting a belief they don't yet have. The working definition here is "lack of belief" not rejection of or anti belief.

There are several definitions of atheism and several types of atheists. The one most atheists subscribe to, and the one being used in the OP, is simple absence of belief, not a rejection of belief; not anti-belief. Atheism is not anti anything, If someone, or some thing, lacks a belief in God, it is a-theist,

If you want to define atheist as anti-theist that's fine, but it's not the definition used by actual atheists, or in this thread.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
Firedragon, go back and read through the posts. This whole thread is about definitions; about religious people -- or just people unfamiliar with the issue -- trying to impose an archaic definition of atheism on a group using the term only to denote a lack of belief.
The title of this thread is: "humans are born atheists." The OP means born without belief, not born rejecting a belief they don't yet have. The working definition here is "lack of belief" not rejection of or anti belief.

There are several definitions of atheism and several types of atheists. The one most atheists subscribe to, and the one being used in the OP, is simple absence of belief, not a rejection of belief; not anti-belief. Atheism is not anti anything, If someone, or some thing, lacks a belief in God, it is a-theist,

If you want to define atheist as anti-theist that's fine, but it's not the definition used by actual atheists, or in this thread.

Okay. I understand and agree.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
Nonsense. Even the site I linked to uses the word "atheist" as an example of a word beginning with the prefix a-. Anti- is not a word. It's a prefix. That is why it is listed in a list of prefixes.

If you say Anti means the absense of something, its wrong. But okay. Thats your wish.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
I didnt say that HUmans are born with the belief of God.

Nor are they born as Atheists. As a word Atheist does not mean "not theist" literally. Not theist is Not theist. Non theist is Non theist.

No one is born Atheist or Theist.
"Non-theist" is a euphemism for "atheist" used by people who want to avoid the negative baggage that's often associated with atheism.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
Never said anti- means the absence of something. It means "opposing, against, the opposite". https://www.englishclub.com/vocabulary/prefixes.htm
a- means the absence of something, like the absence of theism, being without theism. Like in atheism.

Anyway, above someone told me that the thread is about having no God in your idea when you are born (If I got it right). So, though I think its a very shallow idea, I concede that OP defines this thread, not the literal meaning of a word, and I respectfully refrain from further argument on the word.

Peace.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The prefix "a" in atheist is from the Greek. It means "not." But English has lots of "a" prefixes, with different origins and meaning different things.
Aglow or await, for example, are from Middle English and mean "at glow" and "at wait."
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
The prefix "a" in atheist is from the Greek. It means "not." But English has lots of "a" prefixes, with different origins and meaning different things.
Aglow or await, for example, are from Middle English and mean "at glow" and "at wait."

I know that brother.

In Greek the prefix a does not mean 'not'. Its makes it a neuter. The atheoi in the bible means Godless. I think, thats what the OP explains as said by Valjien.
 

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
This whole thread is about definitions; about religious people -- or just people unfamiliar with the issue -- trying to impose an archaic definition of atheism on a group using the term only to denote a lack of belief.
To some of us, it's not archaic, though. It's very much alive and well.
 
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