Hundreds of Proofs of God’s Existence

[Madhuri]

Sevenz, I do not htink you realise how disrespectful you are by some of the things you say. You probably believe you are being a good Christian by saying them, but really you are completely diregarding other people's feelings. I was wrong to say what I did earlier in this thread. Although it was honest, it was not respectful. It's just very difficult not to become annoyed when there is a constant flow of people who have such high claims and make nothing of it. You aren't the only one. You have not provided evidence or proofs, you just talk a lot and answer very few questions. It doesn't make it easy for others to be patient with you. It would also be nice if you were a little more knowledgeable about other's ideas and did some research before making significant statements. For people who have some understanding in certain fields (and yes, I'm also refering to other threads) you come across as very young and very ignorant. Doing some research would gain you a lot of respect.

I don't see why you would hold off some information that you claim to be proof. If it actually is proof, then it would have a great impact on some people. If it's just a quote from the Bible, then you can't expect anybody to take it seriously. Of course, it might be more legitimate. But considering that Chrsitianity has been around for so long and no proof has ever been given by anybody then it's hard to take you seriously. Can you understand that?

There are respectable Christians here and all over the world, and definitely great teachings in the Bible. But you haven't presented yourself very well here. You come across badly and it doesn't help your cause. If you are able to consider this and put some effort into posts, then you could have some very engaging and meaningful conversations. So far, you sound like a preacher and a very immature one at that. I'm not trying to be mean, just honest.

 

[sevenz]

Sevenz, I do not htink you realise how disrespectful you are by some of the things you say. You probably believe you are being a good Christian by saying them, but really you are completely diregarding other people's feelings. I was wrong to say what I did earlier in this thread. Although it was honest, it was not respectful. It's just very difficult not to become annoyed when there is a constant flow of people who have such high claims and make nothing of it. You aren't the only one. You have not provided evidence or proofs, you just talk a lot and answer very few questions. It doesn't make it easy for others to be patient with you. It would also be nice if you were a little more knowledgeable about other's ideas and did some research before making significant statements. For people who have some understanding in certain fields (and yes, I'm also refering to other threads) you come across as very young and very ignorant. Doing some research would gain you a lot of respect.

I don't see why you would hold off some information that you claim to be proof. If it actually is proof, then it would have a great impact on some people. If it's just a quote from the Bible, then you can't expect anybody to take it seriously. Of course, it might be more legitimate. But considering that Chrsitianity has been around for so long and no proof has ever been given by anybody then it's hard to take you seriously. Can you understand that?

There are respectable Christians here and all over the world, and definitely great teachings in the Bible. But you haven't presented yourself very well here. You come across badly and it doesn't help your cause. If you are able to consider this and put some effort into posts, then you could have some very engaging and meaningful conversations. So far, you sound like a preacher and a very immature one at that. I'm not trying to be mean, just honest.

Have you heard "do on to others as you will have them do onto you?

Yes well look at this way, your where disrespectul to me, I defended myself, I was not direspectful in return. I simply showed you that you where Disrepectful? If it appear that I was disrespectuful then consider the meaning of the scirpture on a deeper level.

People look at that scripture and think oh yeah " that means if I want good things to happen to me I must do good things to others. Well yeah right, but most people do bad things to others and forget that others will do bad things back.

By the way, Im not here to present myself as a christian to you all, and I havent done so have I? Ive come here to pose a question to people about the bible? Two different topics oceans apart, when I am dead the bible will still be alive. This is not about me, please dont try to make it that way. Im not into getting personal on any of these isues, and I have really come to this forum hoping for intelligent intercourse - but Im bogged down in people unleeshing their emotions and feelings and not being objective. Emotion and feelings is fine, but not without objectivity and facts. Other wise its just a talk fest. Im not here for you to judge my character nor me to judge yours, so get up off me with that - Im serious and everyone else can too. Oh and If I have hurt anyone's little feelings, then I'm so very sorry, but can we move on.

 

[Atreyu]

If I could prove to you with out a shadow of a doubt IE irrefutaebly; that God wrote the bible, would you do what the bible tells you to do, that is, repent of your sin and receive Christ as your saviour and leave your other beliefs behind?

IF so Why and if not why not?

I cannot say that I would or not. If his existance was proved I would certainly have no other choice to believe, however if you read the bible very closely you will realize that your chances of going to heaven are quite slim and if he existed, well his expectations of us are way to high.

 

[Bware]

If I had proof that God wrote some instructions on how I should go about my life, your darn right I would I snap to attention and do EXACTLY what was asked. I mean after all, it's a god, who am I to question? However, the Bible was not written by god, therefore I will not follow it.

But for the sake of the OP, if the Bible (or Wiccan Reede, or the Haddith, Quran, etc) was proved to be written by a divine being, then yes I would follow.

 

[Madhuri]

Have you heard "do on to others as you will them do onto you?

Yes well look at this way, your where disrespectul to me, I defendes myself, I was not direspectful in return. I simply showed you that Disrepectful? If it appear that I was disrespectuful then consider the meaning of the scirpture on a deeper level.

Peopl look at that scripture and think oh yeah " that menas if I want good thing to happen to me I must do good thigs to others. Well yeah right, but most people do bad things to others and forget that others will do bad things back.

You were disrespectful, though you probably didn't realise it.
I'm sorry, I was in a bad mood. I don't agree with you but I should not have been disrespectful in the first place. There are aspects of Christianity that I like, and I greatly respect Jesus but I do not believe that he is God and I do not believe that the Bible is the word of God. However, if you have proof I promise to consider it but please do not expect me to take it as fact. I have found my path to God and I see much more truth in it than the Christian religion. But that is just me.

 

[Venatoris]

Nice I wonder what your other 150000 posts are like. Are they as good as this? Wow I hope I'm like you when I grow up and I'm five.

 

[nameless]

friend sevenz,

would you mind telling us your age?

 

[sevenz]

I cannot say that I would or not. If his existance was proved I would certainly have no other choice to believe, however if you read the bible very closely you will realize that your chances of going to heaven are quite slim and if he existed, well his expectations of us are way to high.

Wow. Now thats a very intersting response. Thanks for answering inteligently.

I think if you read the bible very closely you will realise that we all only get into heaven by the skin of our teeth, but not becuase of anything we have or havent done. But becuase of what Christ has done. And it's very easy to get into heaven.

 

[sevenz]

hi sevenz,

would you mind telling us your age?

Im 43 Or 7. 4 +3 = 7

 

[jam.bar]

I can see sevenz getting banned veeeeery soon.

Until then, i'll humour you.

First off, if God did exist and we had to obey I would be very depressed because my life would become meaningless. What's the point of being alive to kiss *** for eternity.

Second. Do you have proof that God exists?

 

[sevenz]

If I had proof that God wrote some instructions on how I should go about my life, your darn right I would I snap to attention and do EXACTLY what was asked. I mean after all, it's a god, who am I to question? However, the Bible was not written by god, therefore I will not follow it.

But for the sake of the OP, if the Bible (or Wiccan Reede, or the Haddith, Quran, etc) was proved to be written by a divine being, then yes I would follow.

Awesome

 

[Bware]

What does another human beings behaivour have to do with irrefutable proof that God worte the bible?? NOTHING!! Stay on topic -

If you don't know what irrefuteable proof is you wont know it kno whwne you see it. Start a thread asking what is Irrefutabel proof is.
Take your petty resentments towards Christians some where else please. It's not a councelling session thread for people who hate christians to share their feellings and hate speech...

Your decsisions will send you to your eternal residence, not the decisions and actions of other men. Are you their judge??. HAh. You sound extremly judgemental and condescending.

Sevenz why are you so angry? MTF didn't say anything, IMO that deserved getting slammed for. He simply stated the truth, which was that your previous post to him, made no sense and was pretty much invalid, due to the fact that you stated the original question at the end in response to his question.

And for the love of God man, click the little spell checker ABC check mark in the top corner. Sorry to be picky, but a billion typos back to back makes reading a post very difficult, let alone taking you seriously.

 

[sevenz]

LOL :clap

 

[sevenz]

You were disrespectful, though you probably didn't realise it.
I'm sorry, I was in a bad mood. I don't agree with you but I should not have been disrespectful in the first place. There are aspects of Christianity that I like, and I greatly respect Jesus but I do not believe that he is God and I do not believe that the Bible is the word of God. However, if you have proof I promise to consider it but please do not expect me to take it as fact. I have found my path to God and I see much more truth in it than the Christian religion. But that is just me.

Appolgy accepted, and thank you for it, Im sorry we got off on a wrong foot considering you where the very first person to welcome me here.

The thing is if I poof it then it is a fact, so you will have to accept a fact as a fact or what does that make you? No offense, but someone who is prepared to ignore the facts at any cost. Thats odd isnt it??

 

[sevenz]

Sevenz why are you so angry? MTF didn't say anything, IMO that deserved getting slammed for. He simply stated the truth, which was that your previous post to him, made no sense and was pretty much invalid, due to the fact that you stated the original question at the end in response to his question.

And for the love of God man, click the little spell checker ABC check mark in the top corner. Sorry to be picky, but a billion typos back to back makes reading a post very difficult, let alone taking you seriously.

Im not angry the truth slams people to the floor pal, it aint my fault. Sorry about the typos. HEH!

 

[Madhuri]

Appolgy accepted, and thank you for it, Im sorry we got off on a wrong foot considering you where the very first person to welcome me here.

The thing is if I poof it then it is a fact, so you will have to accept a fact as a fact or what does that make you? No offense, but someone who is prepared to ignore the facts at any cost. Thats odd isnt it??

True, I used the wrong wording. I mean that just because you consider it proof do not expect others to. There are a lot of Christains who argue that because the Bible says that Jesus is God that must be proof that Jesus really is God. But..it isn't proof for most people. Of coruse, your proof might be more legitimate than this. I really don't know.

 

[meogi]

Proofs only matter in math, logic, and liquor. This entire thread is a farce.

'Proof' gravity for me. If you can prove that, I'll believe you have a chance at proving God's Existence.

But, of course, given your absurd assumptions, yes, I would believe in anything, given 'proof.'

 

[Bware]

Sevenz you just seem like you have a huge chip on your shoulder. I just logged on after being gone from the forum for over a month (military) and I read this entire thread. Throughout the thread it seems that you are offended and angry about people having different beliefs than you do. Now I went back and read the posts by Madhuri and MTF and others that you were "not angry" about to see if your "non angriness" had any merit. IMO it didn't. You just seem to be upset by people having different views than you. You come into this forum make a thread saying, hypothetically, if I had proof would you believe? Then people give your their honest answers and you get mad. Then you change into saying I do have proof, I do, but you aren't good enough to see it, I won't present it here, you are all bigots and fools and hatemongers.

I'm not trying to start an argument or anything man, or be disrespectful, I gave you my honest answer in my first response. All I am trying to say, is maybe you should relax a bit, take a Zanex or something, read what people are ACTUALLY saying, don't just immediately chomp at the bit and fly off the handle when someone gives you their honest opinion. It doesn't make you look very intelligent or very credible.

Oh and BTW, you still have presented this proof. I would genuinely like to see it.

 

[enchanted_one1975]

If I could prove to you with out a shadow of a doubt IE irrefutaebly; that God wrote the bible, would you do what the bible tells you to do, that is, repent of your sin and receive Christ as your saviour and leave your other beliefs behind?

IF so Why and if not why not?

The bible itself says it was written by Moses, not God. Any proof you could come up would be a smoke and mirrors show. So, no, I would not be converted back to what I consider to be a for-profit scandalous religion.

 

[ThereIsNoSpoon]

The sentence I was reffering to was your opening statement about believing th truth when you see it.

I know that. By the way my statement didn't speak about "the truth when i see it" but to accept "what I see as truth". There is a difference.

You cant prove that.

Of course i can't proove that to you. I do not know why i should at all.
You asked (me) about it (/myself) and i answered. I do claim from myself that i accept whatever is for me visible as the truth regardless of what it looks like. This includes potentially God or the bible if there is such evidence as you have stated in your question. Its an honest answer to your question. If you don't like the answer then you shouldnt have asked.

And I can dsagree because the proof that God wrote the bible has been aroudn for hundreds of years.

You repeated this claim twice now.
Without any evidence its merely a phrase written down in a forum.
Do you have any clue how many people of most different religious groups make such a claim only replacing the word "bible" with their respective scriptures?

Are you a seeker of truth??

So i would call myself. Just as any true scientist would.

Then answer me this, what truth have you seen so far in life that you believe, this would be some evidence for your claim.

Again my friend. I think you are mistaken here. It was YOU who asked about my acceptance of irrefutable evidence for the bible or god if you presented it.
I answered.
Now instead of asking me to proove that i actually meant my answer (which i actually already find somewhat insulting in such a discussion) i would rather suggest you present the supposed proof you supposedly have.

Im not giving my proof yet,(and I may never supply it on this forum, I have on others so I know what I am up against) because Im not getting straight answers to the questions, which is great,it diagnoses to me the true state of where people are at regarding a genuine desire for truth.

Again you are mistaken. You asked a simple question and a straight answer you got from me. Now i require the straight irrefutable evidence that you supposedly have but instead you try to put some burdon of proof on me, asking me to put forth evidence that i am not a liar or misguided fool.

I think you should ponder a bit what you actually want from this discussion.

Most people just want to argue the toss to watse a bit of time - IE this is entertainment for most people.

My nick clearly doesnt read "most people".
It reads "there is no spoon".
And i do not argue to "waste time". First of all i do not really think that one could actually "waste" it and secondly i don't have enough to waste it even if I could.