katiemygirl
CHRISTIAN
I hear this all the time. "I'm good, therefore I'm going to heaven."
Really?
I would ask, why did Jesus bother to die on the cross then?
Really?
I would ask, why did Jesus bother to die on the cross then?
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I Am A Good Person, Therefore, I'm Going To Heaven!
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katiemygirl
CHRISTIAN
Do they also think bad people go to heaven?
Hypothetically speaking: someone brutally tortures, rapes and murders your child. Do they go to heaven too?
Why did Jesus die on the cross?
According to your faith, if he believes in Jesus: Absolutely!
Taylor Seraphim
Angel of Reason
Ketiemygirl, do you think that members of other religions deserve to be tortured for all of eternity?
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
Keeping it short. Just want to answer.
A lot of good people acknowledge they sin sometimes.
"I am good AND I sin, therefore I deserve heaven."
In other words, I am good because Jesus blessed me AND I sin so I have faith Jesus died for me therefore I deserve heaven.
You are missing a part. To nonbelievers, the question is illogical.
BSM1
What? Me worry?
If, according to Christian tenets, they confess their sins on their death beds and ask for forgiveness, then they, too, will wind up in "heaven". They might be in the mansion beside yours which, btw, will be as big and luxurious as your eternal digs.
katiemygirl
CHRISTIAN
We ALL sin, regardless of who or what we believe in, christians and non christians alike.
Sin is what separates us from God.
None of us is capable of being perfect. None of us could ever be good enough. That's why God sent His Son, Jesus, to die on the cross. Jesus took the punishment for us. He took our place. When He died on the cross, He took our sins with Him, making us PERFECT in the eyes of God.
Even the tiniest sin will keep us out of heaven, no matter how good we are.
Jesus said the only way to heaven is through belief in HIM.
The Word of God says that we all deserve to burn in hell-fire and brimstone (Romans 6:23; Revelation 20:13-15, 21:8). If you don't understand the nature of God and how he views sin, then you won't understand eternal punishment.
katiemygirl
CHRISTIAN
Yup! According to 1 John 1, if we confess our sins, He is faithful to forgive us.
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katiemygirl
CHRISTIAN
I suspect their digs will be better!
McBell
Unbound
who gets to decide who is and who is not "bad"?
They do if they have met GODS criteria for entry.
Or do you claim to have said authority?
You really do not want to open that can of worms with me.
McBell
Unbound
This is debatable.
But perhaps not in this thread.
katiemygirl
CHRISTIAN
None of us deserves heaven. That is a gift from God that we cannot earn by being good.
Show me a Scripture that says any of us DESERVES to go to heaven.
The Word of God says that we all deserve to burn in hell-fire and brimstone (Romans 6:23; Revelation 20:13-15, 21:8).
McBell
Unbound
Then how can he say he is "good"?
Seems you are veering far away from your OP to argue your OP....
Anyone who does good to others will be rewarded from God.
Yeshua did not die for your sins, everyone is responsible only to God for their sins - no sacrifice was made. People should stop expecting that someone else will carry their sins.
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
I disagree with that. Why would you not deserve it? God gave you that option. You took it.
If god felt you deserve it by dying on the cross, why do you not feel the same as god?
Reflective question
Why take something you dont deserve when the person who gave that something felt you deserved it?
katiemygirl
CHRISTIAN
Fact: Jesus died for our sins.
katiemygirl
CHRISTIAN
Please provide a Scripture which says we DESERVE heaven.
To you that is a fact because your religion is based on that, but God who disliked idols would never do such a thing and make what idol-worshippers believed in (birth by virgin, miracles, death for sins).
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
Rewrite. No debate. Please reread my post.
The good person did not say he is perfect. He deserves heaven because god said he does. How? By jesus dying on the cross.
That is explicidly in scripture.
Reflective questions
Why do you not deserve heaven when the person you love said you deserve it by him dying on the cross?
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Why take something you dont deserve when the person who gave that something felt you deserved it?