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I am sceptical of the Skeptics. Is it wrong?

Shad

Veteran Member
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2. Adam was a true myth.
3. The Apocalypse of Peter states it was another person that substituted the Jesus. Read again the Crucifixion passages on the Apocalypse of Peter.

1. No rebuttal
2. Stating the obvious
3. No it doesn't. Read the later verses I quoted. Specifically "But what they released was my incorporeal body. But I am the intellectual Spirit filled with radiant light. He whom you saw coming to me is our intellectual Pleroma, which unites the perfect light with my Holy Spirit." Another person can not realize the incorporeal body of Christ. Christ is telling Peter that the crucifixion released his true form which is a spirit form not a material one. You didn't bother to read my quote thus your point has no merit.
 

use_your_brain

Active Member
1. No rebuttal
2. Stating the obvious
3. No it doesn't. Read the later verses I quoted. Specifically "But what they released was my incorporeal body. But I am the intellectual Spirit filled with radiant light. He whom you saw coming to me is our intellectual Pleroma, which unites the perfect light with my Holy Spirit." Another person can not realize the incorporeal body of Christ. Christ is telling Peter that the crucifixion released his true form which is a spirit form not a material one. You didn't bother to read my quote thus your point has no merit.
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3. Take alook the passage from Apocalypse of Peter:
"Come therefore, let us (Jesus and Peter) go on with the completion of the will of the incorruptible Father. For behold, those who will bring them judgment are coming, and they will be put to shame. But me they cannot touch. And you, O Peter, shall stand in their midst. Do not be afraid because of your cowardice. Their minds shall be closed, for the invisible one has opposed them."

When he (Jesus) said those things, I saw him seemingly being seized by them. And I said "What do I see, O Lord, that it is you yourself whom they take, and that you are grasping me? Or who is this one, glad and laughing on the tree? And is it another one whose feet and hands they are striking?"

The Savior said to me, "He whom you saw on the tree, glad and laughing, this is the living Jesus. But this one into whose hands and feet they drive the nails is his fleshly part, which is the substitute being put to shame, the one who came into being in his likeness. But look at him and me."

But I, when I had looked, said "Lord, no one is looking at you. Let us flee this place." But he said to me, "I have told you, "Leave the blind alone!" And you, see how they do not know what they are saying. For the son of their glory instead of my servant, they have put to shame."

And I saw someone about to approach us resembling him, even him who was laughing on the tree. And he was filled with a Holy Spirit, and he is the Savior. And there was a great, ineffable light around them, and the multitude of ineffable and invisible angels blessing them. And when I looked at him, the one who gives praise was revealed. And he said to me, "Be strong, for you are the one to whom these mysteries have been given, to know them through revelation, that he whom they crucified is the first-born, and the home of demons, and the stony vessel, in which they dwell, of Elohim, of the cross, which is under the Law.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
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3. Take alook the passage from Apocalypse of Peter:
"Come therefore, let us (Jesus and Peter) go on with the completion of the will of the incorruptible Father. For behold, those who will bring them judgment are coming, and they will be put to shame. But me they cannot touch. And you, O Peter, shall stand in their midst. Do not be afraid because of your cowardice. Their minds shall be closed, for the invisible one has opposed them."

When he (Jesus) said those things, I saw him seemingly being seized by them. And I said "What do I see, O Lord, that it is you yourself whom they take, and that you are grasping me? Or who is this one, glad and laughing on the tree? And is it another one whose feet and hands they are striking?"

The Savior said to me, "He whom you saw on the tree, glad and laughing, this is the living Jesus. But this one into whose hands and feet they drive the nails is his fleshly part, which is the substitute being put to shame, the one who came into being in his likeness. But look at him and me."

Read my quotation which directly follows your cited verses and explains exactly what I said it did. You didn't bother to read what I posted thus are willfully ignorant

But I, when I had looked, said "Lord, no one is looking at you. Let us flee this place." But he said to me, "I have told you, "Leave the blind alone!" And you, see how they do not know what they are saying. For the son of their glory instead of my servant, they have put to shame."

All you have done is quote-mine the verses I quoted while omitting the very part which explains that it is the material body, false body, of Christ. The point Christ is make is that they harmed only a husk, a container. They can not harm the true body of Christ which is of the spirit not material. All they did was release his true form. Thanks for displaying your inability to read other posts and even look at the source you are talking about.

And I saw someone about to approach us resembling him, even him who was laughing on the tree. And he was filled with a Holy Spirit, and he is the Savior. And there was a great, ineffable light around them, and the multitude of ineffable and invisible angels blessing them. And when I looked at him, the one who gives praise was revealed. And he said to me, "Be strong, for you are the one to whom these mysteries have been given, to know them through revelation, that he whom they crucified is the first-born, and the home of demons, and the stony vessel, in which they dwell, of Elohim, of the cross, which is under the Law.

Again my previous citations directly refute your claims as you refuse to read the specific passage which explain why you are wrong.

""But what they released was my incorporeal body. But I am the intellectual Spirit filled with radiant light. He whom you saw coming to me is our intellectual Pleroma, which unites the perfect light with my Holy Spirit." Which directly follows Peter watching the material body of Christ and asking why no one sees Jesus but him.

Again here is complete passages not a selection of passages. Jesus explain that the body is his material form but the material form is irrelevant. By crucifying him all they did was release his true form. Hence he was still crucified. The body for everyone is merely a container. People that attempt to harm the body as if it was the true representation of self are spiritually blind. Self is the soul, the spirit. You can not harm the soul by physical torture. All you do is release the soul upon the body's destruction. Simply put getting knocked off the mortal coil is only the beginning not an end.

Research Christology and Christian theology. This gospel aligned with mainstream belief such as Jesus taking our sin upon himself and the symbolic nature of the body of Christ in the material.

"The Savior said to me, "He whom you saw on the tree, glad and laughing, this is the living Jesus. But this one into whose hands and feet they drive the nails is his fleshly part, which is the substitute being put to shame, the one who came into being in his likeness. But look at him and me."

But I, when I had looked, said "Lord, no one is looking at you. Let us flee this place."

But he said to me, "I have told you, 'Leave the blind alone!'. And you, see how they do not know what they are saying. For the son of their glory instead of my servant, they have put to shame."

And he said to me, "Be strong, for you are the one to whom these mysteries have been given, to know them through revelation, that he whom they crucified is the first-born, and the home of demons, and the stony vessel in which they dwell, of Elohim, of the cross, which is under the Law. But he who stands near him is the living Savior, the first in him, whom they seized and released, who stands joyfully looking at those who did him violence, while they are divided among themselves. Therefore he laughs at their lack of perception, knowing that they are born blind. So then the one susceptible to suffering shall come, since the body is the substitute. But what they released was my incorporeal body. But I am the intellectual Spirit filled with radiant light. He whom you saw coming to me is our intellectual Pleroma, which unites the perfect light with my Holy Spirit.""
 
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Shad

Veteran Member
I only pay attention to this part:
"Sometimes they don't mix at all"

But, of course the two kind of water will mix eventually.

So you displayed confirmation bias and quote-mining. Thanks for that but your posts about the Gospel above already show this.
 

Corthos

Great Old One
The moon was used to be split into two parts and then compacted again, whether it is followed by a scientific trace or not. I don't pay attention to the cracks observation on the moon. we probably find the sign or not. It is not important to me .

...I have to admit, I'm a little disappointed. Never mind, then.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Skeptics, of couse, are skepctical of skeptics as a matter of course. That is what skeptism means.

Some people mistake attachment to superstitions such as Creationism or certain forms of denial with "counter-skepticism", however.
 

Corthos

Great Old One
Skeptics, of couse, are skepctical of skeptics as a matter of course. That is what skeptism means.

Some people mistake attachment to superstitions such as Creationism or certain forms of denial with "counter-skepticism", however.

Literalism in religion is often accompanied by intellectual dishonesty... It's disheartening. =/
 

Aquitaine

Well-Known Member
2) http://www.oregon.gov/dsl/ssnerr/docs/efs/efs33mix.pdf
3) First of all, what is the FSM exactly?
Your own link states that they do, the majority of the text discusses the 5 key elements to the mixing: circulation, tidal, wind, waves a river run-off.
It just states that sometimes they will not mix if some of these conditions are not met.

As for your second question, FSM is short for Flying Spaghetti Monster, and I'd like to see you disprove it, please.
 

use_your_brain

Active Member
Your own link states that they do, the majority of the text discusses the 5 key elements to the mixing: circulation, tidal, wind, waves a river run-off.
It just states that sometimes they will not mix if some of these conditions are not met.

As for your second question, FSM is short for Flying Spaghetti Monster, and I'd like to see you disprove it, please.
at least the writer said they do not mix.
Does FSM exist?
 

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
Who said it is a God?
They did:

i'm god, because this piece of paper i've just written says so.
and this piece of paper i've just written must be true cause it's written by god.
disprove it or kneel in front of me.

as you said it's your task to disprove it and circular reasoning is legitimate reasonings. So kneel.

Can you disprove it? If you cannot, then you must admit that cambridge79 is God, correct?
 
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