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I believe in a culturally pure America.

Jonathan Bailey

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I'll enjoy it for you. And I'll enjoy it (and have enjoyed it) even though I don't see many of Celtic descent running around. And are you aware that even the wealthy "act ignorant, use bad grammar, are hateful and miserable, smoke, abuse drugs, are active and involved in crime, are rude, crude, and trashy, and are impolite?"
Granted, what described is largely why I left Indiana for California. Red states do suck. But how the serious hell do you keep exclusive company with white people in California? That's a very massive chunk of the population you'd be intentionally isolating yourself from, and they're all around you there.
I lived in California from 1965 through 1999. Marin County was mostly white then. San Mateo County was mostly white then. I lived in and was educated in those two counties. Seeing a non-white person in any of my schools was the exception and not the norm then.

Why am I poor?

I have a crippling disability (CFS combined with rheumatoid arthritis, asthma and occasional heart palpitations) that precludes me from work and have had it since late 2011. The only disability benefit I'm eligible for is the VA Pension benefit at $1,127 month plus $15/mo. in food stamps, SNAP. The woman at the Comanche County DHS office who did the telephone interview was total jerk. She had a southern drawl and did not like me at all, being that I'm a middle-age white male dam-yankee. The food stamp people in Idaho were much nicer to me over the phone. Some welfare people in California weren't too nice either being that I'm a white male. I did not ask for this illness and I did not bring it upon myself. This illness is not in my family history and was never anticipated. I don't smoke, drink and do drugs but still my health lacks. My only hope at age 55 is to recover and take a job such as driving trucks. I am obese and my doctor says that serious weight loss may avert the disability and allow me to work again. The obesity was brought on progressively by quitting smoking in 2006 for good and straining my brain in college: 2008-2013. It took me five long years to achieve that petty associates degree because delays due to frequent class closures of coursework needed to fulfill core requirements for my degree program and overcrowding of the community college system in Sacramento leading to many class closures. Some semesters I was only signed up for one single course. I didn't have the energy to go to school full time anyway at age 45 on up. I would stuff my face full of chocolate brownies, ice cream, cake, soda and See's candy to keep awake and alert while slaving over those nerve-racking/brain-racking textbooks for countless hours. I thought obesity was still a lesser evil than smoking or using narcotics. I now have useless associates degree in computers and I did not even get called in for one interview while living is Sacramento, CA from 2014 through 2015 with over 100 applications put in. It's too late in my life to pursue a higher college degree. I don't have the mental energy or ambition for it at my age. My last hurrah in life is to get fit and get behind the wheel of a large-freight-carrier big rig at $50-80K a year for at least 5 years followed by a desk job at the trucking firm until ripe old age or death.
 

Dan From Smithville

He who controls the spice controls the universe.
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"high hills" - hooz, a word in some language meaning high hills
"who's here" - back to the frontier days and asking that when approaching a cabin
"who's ear" - again from older times, back when duels were common and allegedly due to ears being bitten off people would ask that
"find a mirror.." - Hoosier might come from the French word for red, and something else, and be a possible slur against Natives
"Work for a dead guy" - Some guy with a name close to Hoosier who was in Kentucky but hired Indiana workers.
"Derogatory slang" - it comes up again with some more possible connotations here, possible even adopted among themselves to disempower the derogatory meaning
"Maybe a priest" - A Methodist priest with a last name similar to Hoosier.
I find these historical names and the names of places and the origins of them to be somewhat fascinating. Here in Missouri we have the town of Braggadocio. One explanation I heard years ago what the there was a local with a daughter named Docia or Docio that he was always bragging about. I have no idea if that has an validity, but it is one of the many interesting historical tidbits that are attached to our heritage.

Ha Ha Tonka is the name of a state park and a band. The band got its name from the park, but I do not know the origin of the name for the park. One I heard that seems a bit silly was that it was a native American phrase for laughing water. There is a large spring in the park, Ha Ha Tonka spring. I sort of doubt that origin, but who knows.
 

dfnj

Well-Known Member
Yes, it will take tough federal legislation to purify America and make her a shining example among the nations of the world.

Yes, I'm a cultural conservative, an environmental liberal and, most of all, an American striving to live in one proud and glorious nation under the grace of God once again.

You have a very naive understanding of what America is about. Education is not a high priority for reason. Here's what the real owners of this country want:


The standardize testing in our K-12 schools is NOT about creating better schools. It's just a boondoggle for the private companies providing the test materials.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I lived in California from 1965 through 1999. Marin County was mostly white then. San Mateo County was mostly white then. I lived in and was educated in those two counties. Seeing a non-white person in any of my schools was the exception and not the norm then.

Why am I poor?

I have a crippling disability (CFS combined with rheumatoid arthritis, asthma and occasional heart palpitations) that precludes me from work and have had it since late 2011. The only disability benefit I'm eligible for is the VA Pension benefit at $1,127 month plus $5 in food stamps. I did not ask for this illness and I did not bring it upon myself. This illness is not in my family history and was never anticipated. I don't smoke, drink and do drugs but still my health lacks. My only hope at age 55 is to recover and take a job such as driving trucks. I am obese and my doctor says that serious weight loss may avert the disability and allow me to work again. The obesity was brought on progressively by quitting smoking in 2006 for good and straining my brain in college: 2008-2013. It took me five long years to achieve that petty associates degree because delays due to frequent class closures of coursework needed to fulfill core requirements for my degree program and overcrowding of the community college system in Sacramento leading to many class closures. Some semesters I was only signed up for one single course. I didn't have the energy to go to school full time anyway at age 45 on up. I would stuff my face full of chocolate brownies, ice cream, cake, soda and See's candy to keep awake and alert while slaving over those nerve-racking/brain-racking textbooks for countless hours. I thought obesity was still a lesser evil than smoking or using narcotics. I now have useless associates degree in computers and I did not even get called in for one interview while living is Sacramento, CA from 2014 through 2015 with over 100 applications put in. It's too late in my life to pursue a higher college degree. I don't have the mental energy or ambition for it at my age. My last hurrah in life is to get fit and get behind the wheel of a large-freight-carrier big rig at $50-80K a year for at least 5 years followed by a desk job at the trucking firm until ripe old age or death.
I'd feel sorry for you if you didn't have the "WASP are best and most refined and better at everything" attitude. But whining "I'm too old." I've known people around your age and older who went back and got their degree.
 

Jonathan Bailey

Well-Known Member
You have a very naive understanding of what America is about. Education is not a high priority for reason. Here's what the real owners of this country want:


The standardize testing in our K-12 schools is NOT about creating better schools. It's just a boondoggle for the private companies providing the test materials.

I can't understand what he's saying. The audio is garbled.
 

Dan From Smithville

He who controls the spice controls the universe.
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I lived in California from 1965 through 1999. Marin County was mostly white then. San Mateo County was mostly white then. I lived in and was educated in those two counties. Seeing a non-white person in any of my schools was the exception and not the norm then.
Then you better come to grips with reality. Times are changing. California has long had a mixed population even if some places were exclusively white. People of all colors, cultures and conditions have been in this country since before it was founded. Some of them helped found it too. White people are not moving to second place, just because the rest of the population that isn't white wants to share in the American dream and be treated equally.
Why am I poor?

I have a crippling disability (CFS combined with rheumatoid arthritis, asthma and occasional heart palpitations) that precludes me from work and have had it since late 2011. The only disability benefit I'm eligible for is the VA Pension benefit at $1,127 month plus $5 in food stamps. I did not ask for this illness and I did not bring it upon myself. This illness is not in my family history and was never anticipated. I don't smoke, drink and do drugs but still my health lacks. My only hope at age 55 is to recover and take a job such as driving trucks. I am obese and my doctor says that serious weight loss may avert the disability and allow me to work again. The obesity was brought on progressively by quitting smoking in 2006 for good and straining my brain in college: 2008-2013. It took me five long years to achieve that petty associates degree because delays due to frequent class closures of coursework needed to fulfill core requirements for my degree program and overcrowding of the community college system in Sacramento leading to many class closures. Some semesters I was only signed up for one single course. I didn't have the energy to go to school full time anyway at age 45 on up. I would stuff my face full of chocolate brownies, ice cream, cake, soda and See's candy to keep awake and alert while slaving over those nerve-racking/brain-racking textbooks for countless hours. I thought obesity was still a lesser evil than smoking or using narcotics. I now have useless associates degree in computers and I did not even get called in for one interview while living is Sacramento, CA from 2014 through 2015 with over 100 applications put in. It's too late in my life to pursue a higher college degree. I don't have the mental energy or ambition for it at my age. My last hurrah in life is to get fit and get behind the wheel of a large-freight-carrier big rig at $50-80K a year for at least 5 years followed by a desk job at the trucking firm until ripe old age or death.
Then get out and get fit. Start walking. You walk between 5,000 and 10,000 steps a day and cut back on the junk food, and you will drop pounds.

None of what you describe here is the blame of poor people, people from different countries, culturs or ethnicities. No one was force-feeding you this junk.

If weight loss and a better diet will help with your health issues, that is a no brainer.

Dude, I am 53, old and out of shape. I have been getting back into shape, even with a bad back and all. My mother went back to school when she was in her mid-fifties, with children still at home and a husband who was a disabled Vet. Admittedly, disabled, but not completely unable. She had his support, but she kept up with school and family at the same time and she was no kid.

It can be done, but sitting around blaming other people isn't going to get it done for you.
 

Dan From Smithville

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Just throwing out non-English stuff. I'm pretty picky about cake though, with the only one I really like being a chocolate miracle whip cake.
Miracle whip. In a cake? Are you serious? Well, I suppose I shouldn't condemn it without trying it first. But...miracle whip? Hmmmm.
 

Dan From Smithville

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I lived in California from 1965 through 1999. Marin County was mostly white then. San Mateo County was mostly white then. I lived in and was educated in those two counties. Seeing a non-white person in any of my schools was the exception and not the norm then.

Why am I poor?

I have a crippling disability (CFS combined with rheumatoid arthritis, asthma and occasional heart palpitations) that precludes me from work and have had it since late 2011. The only disability benefit I'm eligible for is the VA Pension benefit at $1,127 month plus $15/mo. in food stamps, SNAP. The woman at the Comanche County DHS office who did the telephone interview was total jerk. She had a southern drawl and did not like me at all, being that I'm a middle-age white male dam-yankee. The food stamp people in Idaho were much nicer to me over the phone. Some welfare people in California weren't too nice either being that I'm a white male. I did not ask for this illness and I did not bring it upon myself. This illness is not in my family history and was never anticipated. I don't smoke, drink and do drugs but still my health lacks. My only hope at age 55 is to recover and take a job such as driving trucks. I am obese and my doctor says that serious weight loss may avert the disability and allow me to work again. The obesity was brought on progressively by quitting smoking in 2006 for good and straining my brain in college: 2008-2013. It took me five long years to achieve that petty associates degree because delays due to frequent class closures of coursework needed to fulfill core requirements for my degree program and overcrowding of the community college system in Sacramento leading to many class closures. Some semesters I was only signed up for one single course. I didn't have the energy to go to school full time anyway at age 45 on up. I would stuff my face full of chocolate brownies, ice cream, cake, soda and See's candy to keep awake and alert while slaving over those nerve-racking/brain-racking textbooks for countless hours. I thought obesity was still a lesser evil than smoking or using narcotics. I now have useless associates degree in computers and I did not even get called in for one interview while living is Sacramento, CA from 2014 through 2015 with over 100 applications put in. It's too late in my life to pursue a higher college degree. I don't have the mental energy or ambition for it at my age. My last hurrah in life is to get fit and get behind the wheel of a large-freight-carrier big rig at $50-80K a year for at least 5 years followed by a desk job at the trucking firm until ripe old age or death.
I choose not to tell my entire life story here, but if you wanted to sit around and swap stories about how bad off each of us is, I could give you a run for your money. The only thing is, I haven't given up. I am not blaming a bunch of people in society that have nothing to do with my personal misfortune. I am thinking of ways to make life better despite the adversity I face.

Lots of successful people had to swim through crap to get to where they are. Lots of people drowned while swimming too. There is no guarantee of success, but there is a guarantee of failure for never trying.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Miracle whip. In a cake? Are you serious? Well, I suppose I shouldn't condemn it without trying it first. But...miracle whip? Hmmmm.
YES! The miracle whip basically replaces things like eggs and oil. And it MUST be miracle whip (absolutely NO mayonnaise). It is a super moist and fluffy cake that is so very yummy. Definitely don't diss this cake until you've tried it. Everyone loves it.
1 c miracle whip salad dressing not mayonnaise
1 c granulated sugar
1 tsp vanilla
2 1/4 c sifted cake flour
1/2 c baking cocoa
1 tsp baking soda
1 tsp baking powder
1 dash(es) salt
3/4 c cold water
Preheat oven to 350^. Grease and flour or spray two 8-inch layer pans.Set aside.
Combine salad dressing and sugar. Blend in vanilla. Add sifted dry ingredients to salad dressing mixture alternately with water, mixing well after each addition. Pour into prepared pans and bake for 25-30 minutes. Cool 10 minutes; remove from pans
 

Dan From Smithville

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Just throwing out non-English stuff. I'm pretty picky about cake though, with the only one I really like being a chocolate miracle whip cake.
I like Google translate. We can all sound like sophisticated and cunning linguists.
 

Dan From Smithville

He who controls the spice controls the universe.
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Premium Member
YES! The miracle whip basically replaces things like eggs and oil. And it MUST be miracle whip (absolutely NO mayonnaise). It is a super moist and fluffy cake that is so very yummy.
1 c miracle whip salad dressing not mayonnaise
1 c granulated sugar
1 tsp vanilla
2 1/4 c sifted cake flour
1/2 c baking cocoa
1 tsp baking soda
1 tsp baking powder
1 dash(es) salt
3/4 c cold water
Preheat oven to 350^. Grease and flour or spray two 8-inch layer pans.Set aside.
Combine salad dressing and sugar. Blend in vanilla. Add sifted dry ingredients to salad dressing mixture alternately with water, mixing well after each addition. Pour into prepared pans and bake for 25-30 minutes. Cool 10 minutes; remove from pans
It sounds good. I am betting it will not go well with my current diet. Miracle whip is calorie rich.

Still, I like cake and I do not have to eat an entire one for a meal. I don't do I. There really isn't a multi-cultural commando squad that goes around forcing old white guys to eat too much yummy cake is there? No. That's silly. It would be funny though.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
It sounds good. I am betting it will not go well with my current diet. Miracle whip is calorie rich.

Still, I like cake and I do not have to eat an entire one for a meal. I don't do I. There really isn't a multi-cultural commando squad that goes around forcing old white guys to eat too much yummy cake is there? No. That's silly. It would be funny though.
If you adjust the tempurate and time cooked, it can easily make cupcakes or the bread-loaf sized pans work wonderful for having a cake and eating it too without having too much to eat.
 

Dan From Smithville

He who controls the spice controls the universe.
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I lived in California from 1965 through 1999. Marin County was mostly white then. San Mateo County was mostly white then. I lived in and was educated in those two counties. Seeing a non-white person in any of my schools was the exception and not the norm then.

Why am I poor?

I have a crippling disability (CFS combined with rheumatoid arthritis, asthma and occasional heart palpitations) that precludes me from work and have had it since late 2011. The only disability benefit I'm eligible for is the VA Pension benefit at $1,127 month plus $15/mo. in food stamps, SNAP. The woman at the Comanche County DHS office who did the telephone interview was total jerk. She had a southern drawl and did not like me at all, being that I'm a middle-age white male dam-yankee. The food stamp people in Idaho were much nicer to me over the phone. Some welfare people in California weren't too nice either being that I'm a white male. I did not ask for this illness and I did not bring it upon myself. This illness is not in my family history and was never anticipated. I don't smoke, drink and do drugs but still my health lacks. My only hope at age 55 is to recover and take a job such as driving trucks. I am obese and my doctor says that serious weight loss may avert the disability and allow me to work again. The obesity was brought on progressively by quitting smoking in 2006 for good and straining my brain in college: 2008-2013. It took me five long years to achieve that petty associates degree because delays due to frequent class closures of coursework needed to fulfill core requirements for my degree program and overcrowding of the community college system in Sacramento leading to many class closures. Some semesters I was only signed up for one single course. I didn't have the energy to go to school full time anyway at age 45 on up. I would stuff my face full of chocolate brownies, ice cream, cake, soda and See's candy to keep awake and alert while slaving over those nerve-racking/brain-racking textbooks for countless hours. I thought obesity was still a lesser evil than smoking or using narcotics. I now have useless associates degree in computers and I did not even get called in for one interview while living is Sacramento, CA from 2014 through 2015 with over 100 applications put in. It's too late in my life to pursue a higher college degree. I don't have the mental energy or ambition for it at my age. My last hurrah in life is to get fit and get behind the wheel of a large-freight-carrier big rig at $50-80K a year for at least 5 years followed by a desk job at the trucking firm until ripe old age or death.
I can see where some of your illness would be a difficult hurdle to overcome, but you said it yourself. Your doctor thinks that getting into shape would help. Simple things like walking are cheap and can be done anywhere. It only takes the first steps. Then add more as you progress. The dry air in Oklahoma should be better for your asthma than southern climes or out east. Consider it a good thing out of the negatives you list for Oklahoma.

What kind of degree in computers? If you know programming, you could do that right from your home. Try looking for jobs in other areas. Expand your horizons a bit. If you want to live in California, consider that a long term goal and go for short- and mid-term goals that will get you one step closer.

I still say it is never too late to pursue more education, but if you have resource and health issues, I can see where that would make it more challenging, though not impossible. You have access to a computer, or some kind of device, so use that to scout for resources and opportunities.

You may have some real reasons to moan, but I can tell you, that moaning here and blaming others will get you no where.
 

Dan From Smithville

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If you adjust the tempurate and time cooked, it can easily make cupcakes or the bread-loaf sized pans work wonderful for having a cake and eating it too without having too much to eat.
The nice thing about cake is that it can last a while.

I am a fan of chocolate cake too. Chocolate anything or almost anything. Not salsa. I don't think many people were a fan of that, but I digress. I would have to adjust my normal approach to chocolate and apply some of that self-control I have been preaching. It could be a good personal development exercise and I get cake too.
 
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