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FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
No, I didn't create the volume of space inside the balloon, I created boundaries.

That is the method you make to create the space inside the balloon, you increase the space
inside the balloon by inflation.

Again, scientists don't know how it works, what is the edge and how inflation started is mind boggling.
 

james blunt

Well-Known Member
That is the method you make to create the space inside the balloon, you increase the space
inside the balloon by inflation.

Again, scientists don't know how it works, what is the edge and how inflation started is mind boggling.
No, you are looking at the experiment totally illogical. I do not create the space in the balloon . The space exists without the balloon and without the box.

Consider two points a length apart of space. We will name Point A and Point B and use full stops to represent the space between points placing the deflated balloon in the centre.

A.....<Deflated balloon>.....B


We shall now inflate the balloon so the points are now within the balloon

....<A..............................B>.....



The space is constant and unaltered, we are creating no space .

P.s how it works is simple , the ''edge'' is simple, it is not mind boggling.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
No, you are looking at the experiment totally illogical. I do not create the space in the balloon . The space exists without the balloon and without the box.

Consider two points a length apart of space. We will name Point A and Point B and use full stops to represent the space between points placing the deflated balloon in the centre.

A.....<Deflated balloon>.....B


We shall now inflate the balloon so the points are now within the balloon

....<A..............................B>.....



The space is constant and unaltered, we are creating no space .

P.s how it works is simple , the ''edge'' is simple, it is not mind boggling.

Now imagine you inflated a balloon inside a water, do you created a space inside the water
or the space was always existing inside the water?
 

james blunt

Well-Known Member
Now imagine you inflated a balloon inside a water, do you created a space inside the water
or the space was always existing inside the water?
The space always exists, you are getting it now I think. Watch a underwater explosion by the slow motion guys, you will see expansion and contraction of the water in the space.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
The space always exists, you are getting it now I think. Watch a underwater explosion by the slow motion guys, you will see expansion and contraction of the water in the space.

Don't be hard minded, do you regard the water as the same space as in the box?
you said that the space existed in the box and hence the space inside the
balloon existed already inside the box, how that works the same if the medium was water
and not a space?
 

james blunt

Well-Known Member
Don't be hard minded, do you regard the water as the same space as in the box?
you said that the space existed in the box and hence the space inside the
balloon existed already inside the box, how that works the same if the medium was water
and not a space?

In consideration for a box at rest on the embankment and a box submerged in water at the same time , both spaces are the same space but the boxes define the coordinates .
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
In consideration for a box at rest on the embankment and a box submerged in water at the same time , both spaces are the same space but the boxes define the coordinates .

Do you regard the space of water as the same space of air?
how both are the same?
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
An air bubble underwater is the same space as the water. Space is united without gaps. An object is not a gap between space.

But still we have a space made of air while the other is of water, do you think both spaces
are similar in size and form?
 

james blunt

Well-Known Member
But still we have a space made of air while the other is of water, do you think both spaces
are similar in size and form?
The space is not made of air or water, there is one space whole and water and air and any energies etc, all occupy this one space whole.

Your questions are being rather circular , do you have any different questions? because I feel I have answered the particular question.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
The space is not made of air or water, there is one space whole and water and air and any energies etc, all occupy this one space whole.

Your questions are being rather circular , do you have any different questions? because I feel I have answered the particular question.

Your idea first was that nothingness can't expand, you made an example that the space made
by balloon is the same space inside the box.

We don't know what is beyond this universe, what if our space is a part of another space
and that our space is expanding into the other space.

How can you be sure of anything while our knowledge is limited?
 

james blunt

Well-Known Member
How can you be sure of anything while our knowledge is limited?

I can be sure because I narrow things down to one possible answer , not one of several possible answers. I look to discover the question firstly, then logically answer the question by elimination and deduction, looking to find the axioms that give the absolute answer.

My type questions I ask myself

What is space?

What is time?

What is energy?

What is God?

Where are we?

What is finite?

What is infinite?

What is physicality?

What is everything?
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
I can be sure because I narrow things down to one possible answer , not one of several possible answers. I look to discover the question firstly, then logically answer the question by elimination and deduction, looking to find the axioms that give the absolute answer.

My type questions I ask myself

What is space?

What is time?

What is energy?

What is God?

Where are we?

What is finite?

What is infinite?

What is physicality?

What is everything?

And what is God?
 
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