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I dont believe in God will i burn in the firey depths of hell for all eternity?

Levite

Levite

Higher and Higher
Atheist94 said:
I get cold feet often, it could be a bonus.
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I wouldn't think so: Jews don't really believe in Hell, deep or shallow, fiery or otherwise. So nobody's eternally damned, regardless of what they've believed or not believed, done or not done.
 
Riverwolf

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
The God I worship would never allow an eternal Hell to exist, let alone sending people there just because someone didn't believe He existed. The Sages teach that not one soul will be denied Unity with God.
 
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Klex

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As an ex-Christian, I have spent a lot time studying and thinking about Religion and the more I learn...the more I'm convinced. None of it makes sense!
When I came to the conclussion that there wasn't really a "Super Being" out there that see's everything I do and everything the rest of the world does at all times, I looked at alternatives to our existence.
The best explanation I have found in all my searching is explained quite well in the documentary "Ancient Aliens." There are many episodes to this show but watch it! The show makes a lot of sense if you watch it with an open mind.
 
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Riverwolf

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
Klex said:
The best explanation I have found in all my searching is explained quite well in the documentary "Ancient Aliens." There are many episodes to this show but watch it! The show makes a lot of sense if you watch it with an open mind.
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No it doesn't. That show is laughable at best, and I do watch it with an open mind. The first few episodes are great comedies.

As an example, the first episode mentions the "ancient text", Vimanaka Shastra, translating it, I believe, as "The Science of Aeronotics." First of all, Shastra means Scripture, not science. Second, this text isn't ancient at all; it's a modern fabrication. Modern aerodynamic scientists looked at it, and concluded that whoever wrote it didn't know anything about the subject. If a Brahmarishi really wrote it, then it would contain real information, since they were reputed to basically know everything. Even the Gods were amazed at their knowledge and wisdom. (Remember that back then, Sages were the source of all knowledge, not just spiritual and religious knowledge.)

Another thing: it claims that the Egypt's obelisks may have been electrical conductors. This doesn't even begin to make sense, since stone is generally insulating, meaning it can't conduct electricity.

My final point is that it mentions Kumari Kandam in the episode on underwater cities. (Though admittedly it doesn't really claim one way or the other whether the place actually existed.) The thing is, no such continent could have possibly existed in that area, since it's mostly abyssal plain. Comparing satellite photos of actual sunken continents (which, BTW, sank millions of years before the first upright walking primates) with the Indian Ocean, reveals this.

The only thing the show really demonstrates is the idea that the ancients were more technologically advanced then we really give them credit for. I do believe this is the case, for a few reasons, but seeing as our species has been around for 200,000 years, there's no reason why they couldn't have come up with this technology themselves.

I don't throw away the possibility of aliens that visit earth, both now and in the past, but the "evidence" presented in that show doesn't necessarily point to such things.
 
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Klex

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You can laugh at the show if you want to and I'm not saying that everyting they show is true. I will say that when I hold religion in one hand and their explanations in the other...I gotta go with theirs. Too much about the Biblical God doesn't make logical sense. Maybe God's logic, if he's out there, doesn't match ours but if he created us in his image...you would think we would be able to understand it. There are more unanswered questions about Christianity that require "faith" as the solution than Evolution and Ancient Aliens combined.
 
Riverwolf

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
Klex said:
You can laugh at the show if you want to and I'm not saying that everyting they show is true. I will say that when I hold religion in one hand and their explanations in the other...I gotta go with theirs.
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Instead of other explanations? The most logically and scientifically possibility is no gods and no aliens. And I believe in both, by the way. (Though I'm more or less agnostic about the latter actually visiting earth.)

Too much about the Biblical God doesn't make logical sense. Maybe God's logic, if he's out there, doesn't match ours but if he created us in his image...you would think we would be able to understand it. There are more unanswered questions about Christianity that require "faith" as the solution than Evolution and Ancient Aliens combined.
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Wait, wait, wait. Christianity doesn't have a monopoly on religion, you know. I don't follow the Bible, nor do I worship the Christian God.

Nor, by the way, do I take a literalistic approach to mythology, even my own. I've never read a single myth that makes sense from a literal perspective.
 
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Riverwolf

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
Actually, let me rephrase something. It is logical to assume that intelligent life would exist elsewhere in the universe, though not scientifically since it hasn't been determined yet.
 
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Klex

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I grew up a Pentecostal Christian, I was baptised in front of my church congregassion. I used to speak in tounges and dance in the aisles. It was when I got older and really took a good look at what I was doing and questioned my religion that my doubts grew. And to ask my fellow Christians...they didn't wanna hear it, seemed they were afraid of the info and doubts. They threw Faith in my face so I asked "what am I having such faith in?"
The Bible is a great book to live your life by but if you are expecting heaven after death...not gonna happen, sorry.
 
Storm

Storm

ThrUU the Looking Glass
Klex said:
I grew up a Pentecostal Christian, I was baptised in front of my church congregassion. I used to speak in tounges and dance in the aisles. It was when I got older and really took a good look at what I was doing and questioned my religion that my doubts grew. And to ask my fellow Christians...they didn't wanna hear it, seemed they were afraid of the info and doubts. They threw Faith in my face so I asked "what am I having such faith in?"
The Bible is a great book to live your life by but if you are expecting heaven after death...not gonna happen, sorry.
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Try reading BEFORE you spout off.
 
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