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I hate God but worship him constantly

Choose the best answer (be honest)

  • I worship God but hate his guts

    Votes: 1 5.0%
  • I don't like God but don't hate him either. I still worship him

    Votes: 2 10.0%
  • I worship God because I love him

    Votes: 7 35.0%
  • I worship God because I don't want to be punished or go to hell

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I don't worship God

    Votes: 10 50.0%

  • Total voters
    20

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Wow, you are more loving than God! Can I ask you to surrender all your possessions, then, since I know some people in need, and you love them more than God, who has turned his back on them...?
if God asked me to give away all my possessions and all my money, I would do it for God.

God is too lazy and apathetic to just simply ask me to do it.
 

sealchan

Well-Known Member
Am I the only one here who worships a God that I hate? I pray on my face more than five times a day trying to surrender to God like a Muslim. I practice Salaat and I tithe more than 10% to beggars who show up at my door looking like lost puppies. I feel sorry for them. I do it because God says to. I do it to please our angry God who burns with wrath over "abominations" and burns people in hell for not adhering to his violent text and not believing in him.

God leaves 2 billion Christians believing in their violent text and 1.6 billion Muslims believing in their violent text. God could just speak up and no need for a violent text that contradicts itself. God is responsible for all the confusion. God is the reason pedophiles molest children because God refuses to give pedophiles healthy minds. God refuses to protect children. God could make pedophiles die innocent as babies.

God is the author of evil because he created the Devil, gives the devil access to manipulate our minds and stir up confusion, and refuses to give people understanding, causing division and bloodbaths over Doctrinal differences. If an antichrist reigns, it is because God wants him to.

Why worship such a jerk? Well, I feel maybe, just maybe if I worship God enough he will stop whining like an impetuous child and burning people in hell for something stupid like not believing in him. I feel maybe I can influence God's cold, barbaric, cruel, and merciless heart of stone, to actually show some compassion toward people and show some decorum and basic consideration for an agonizing human race.

Unlike God, I don't want my worst enemy to go to hell.

I feel sorry for and even love radical Islamic terrorists because they know nothing but fear, bigotry, and hate, and that is a terrible agony to be stuck in.

I've been there at times. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.

God on the other hand puts people in hell for not believing correct Dogma. At least the Bible and Qur'an indicate that.

So, I worship our sick depraved God to try to inspire him to be as nice to people as myself and so many others are. I try to teach him lessons and give him instructions on how to practice basic forms of charity rather than leave people tortured in this life and the next.


Why do you worship God? What is your agenda?

I worship God because I feel that it is psychologically very efficacious for me to do so and for very particular reasons. I see God as the creator and responsible for His creation. I also think that God is limited in His masculine portrayal in the Bible so I am wary of drawing strict conclusions until a fuller story is developed.

My relationship with God began with a critique of God and His creation due to the impact I perceived it had on my life. I know now that it was my own ignorance that was giving me grief, but that anger and frustration initiated my coming to belief in Him.

My agenda (I do have one) is to restore my faith (Christianity) to a creative pursuit of an understanding of God through scripture as literature. Let's remove the requirement for exclusivity (of the Christian revelation) and literality of the text especially as historically and/or scientifically accurate and let's add an appreciation of the author(s) perspective as part of the richness of the Bible as well as let's consider our actual personal experience of truth (not just mindlessly mouth Bible quotes and common interpretations) and integrate a more sophisticated psychological understanding of the teachings of Jesus.
 

sealchan

Well-Known Member
I beg God incessantly to just make me his servant and he does not a damn thing.

I'll sacrifice anything for him if he would just speak up.

God probably lives in a mansion of gold and has all the pleasures possible that he wants.

I pushed a guy voluntarily in his wheelchair today. Were I God, I would have him walk.

if I were God I wouldn't be this lazy loser we have for a God who just sits around and does not a damn thing to help out the starving, the suffering, the sexually abused etc.

If I were God there would be no rapists, terrorists, pedophiles and serial killers. Muslims and everyone would know the truth and there would be no confusion.

Unlike God, I actually care about people. I would actually comfort them and speak to them rather than just leave them a book full of violence and contradictions.

Unlike you're worthless God, I would actually help people. How do you know Muslims don't have the truth? You don't know! God hates people so much, that he leaves billions of people confused about who he is.

You are probably just as confused as they are.

Your God hates people and it's obvious.

Any God who would watch his children get raped and sodomized and tortured to death, and do nothing, is a cruel God to the Core.

God wants people to rape and kill each other and kill themselves.

The disgusting God of the Bible and the Koran, burns people in hell for just not accepting a Dogma.

Your God makes me want to vomit and is the epitome of disgusting and cruel as hell!

God wants us to do the impossible for us, but easy for Him. If someday we accomplish His goal, will we feel thankful? I'm not sure we will.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
In my tradition, how I feel about the gods is irrelevant with respect to them being worthy of worship. That is to say, it's appropriate to feel differently about different gods - both positive and negative - none of which affirms or denies their status as gods. The gods are worthy of their dues whether or not I happen to like them. That said, the gods I honor on any consistent basis are ones that reflect my values or interests. I may also work to undermine the power of certain gods within my life where they oppose my values.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
In my tradition, how I feel about the gods is irrelevant with respect to them being worthy of worship. That is to say, it's appropriate to feel differently about different gods - both positive and negative - none of which affirms or denies their status as gods. The gods are worthy of their dues whether or not I happen to like them. That said, the gods I honor on any consistent basis are ones that reflect my values or interests. I may also work to undermine the power of certain gods within my life where they oppose my values.
Great post!
Do your Gods fight with each other?
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Great post!
Do your Gods fight with each other?

It's like any other relationship - when two or more parties meet, there can be ambivalence, conflict, or cooperation. Sometimes more than one of those, depending on circumstance.
 
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Spiderman

Veteran Member
It's like any other relationship - when two or more parties meet, there can be ambivalence, conflict, or cooperation. Sometimes more than one of those, depending on circumstance.
I guess my error in all of this is assuming God or the gods are omnipotent.

If they are not omnipotent, and their hands are sometimes tied, then they (or he) are not responsible for all the pain and misery.

Maybe they are incapable of speaking audible messages to people?
 
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74x12

Well-Known Member
Two scriptures

#1 Trust in God, lean not on your own understanding ... (Proverbs 3:5)
#2 And we walk by faith and not by sight. (2 Corinthians 5:7)

If the angels who know a lot more than we do still love and trust God; then aren't you being hasty?

Of course this life is a test of our faith. Going by the sights of our eyes is the wrong way.
 
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Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
I guess my error in all of this is assuming God or the gods are omnipotent.

If they are not omnipotent, and their hands are sometimes tied, then they (or he) are not responsible for all the pain and misery.

Maybe they are incapable of speaking audible messages to people?

The notion of omnipotence is absent in polytheistic theology, yes. In general, polytheistic religions weren't really about holding gods "responsible" for things in some moralizing fashion. Moralizing theism was something novel that arose with the monotheistic traditions, as far as I'm aware.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
Am I the only one here who worships a God that I hate? I pray on my face more than five times a day trying to surrender to God like a Muslim. I practice Salaat and I tithe more than 10% to beggars who show up at my door looking like lost puppies. I feel sorry for them. I do it because God says to. I do it to please our angry God who burns with wrath over "abominations" and burns people in hell for not adhering to his violent text and not believing in him.

God leaves 2 billion Christians believing in their violent text and 1.6 billion Muslims believing in their violent text. God could just speak up and no need for a violent text that contradicts itself. God is responsible for all the confusion. God is the reason pedophiles molest children because God refuses to give pedophiles healthy minds. God refuses to protect children. God could make pedophiles die innocent as babies.

God is the author of evil because he created the Devil, gives the devil access to manipulate our minds and stir up confusion, and refuses to give people understanding, causing division and bloodbaths over Doctrinal differences. If an antichrist reigns, it is because God wants him to.

Why worship such a jerk? Well, I feel maybe, just maybe if I worship God enough he will stop whining like an impetuous child and burning people in hell for something stupid like not believing in him. I feel maybe I can influence God's cold, barbaric, cruel, and merciless heart of stone, to actually show some compassion toward people and show some decorum and basic consideration for an agonizing human race.

Unlike God, I don't want my worst enemy to go to hell.

I feel sorry for and even love radical Islamic terrorists because they know nothing but fear, bigotry, and hate, and that is a terrible agony to be stuck in.

I've been there at times. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.

God on the other hand puts people in hell for not believing correct Dogma. At least the Bible and Qur'an indicate that.

So, I worship our sick depraved God to try to inspire him to be as nice to people as myself and so many others are. I try to teach him lessons and give him instructions on how to practice basic forms of charity rather than leave people tortured in this life and the next.


Why do you worship God? What is your agenda?



Those that know the true living God, know he is correct in his choices. Mortals are mislead easily( 2Cor 11:12-15)2Cor4:4)--Most of mortal history= 99% mislead throughout the bible. And Jesus compared these last days to Noahs day( 99% mislead( being generous)-- Not all is as appears in this satan ruled system of things.
Those that follow Jesus, listen to Jesus. He teaches--Enter through the narrow gate, for cramped is the road that leads off into life, FEW are the ones finding it. For MANY have entered the broad and spacious path that leads to destruction.-- not eternal suffering-destruction. Fire destroys. There is no life in death. God is love. Not the sadist being taught with a real eternal suffering. It was symbolism in the NT. Hades translates-- The grave.
 

robocop (actually)

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
refuses to give people understanding, causing division and bloodbaths over Doctrinal differences
Maybe he can't help us if we don't earn it.

Bahaii'sm, Mormonism, Scientology, Raelism and other modern religions seem to be OK. It's the people's fault they don't convert. Maybe he can't interfere, like in Bruce Almighty.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Not according to the Bible. But it seems to me that you are speaking of some other god than Bible God.
The Bible says there is no other way but Jesus and that those not written in the book of life will be in the lake of fire. Remember the rich man was being tormented by flames and speaking to Abraham. The flames were not killing him. The Bible says all kinds of conflicting statements that lead people to opposite conclusions. I'm sure you can argue your conclusion just like everyone who disagrees with you can quote scriptures for what they believe.

Follow your conscience, not the psychopathic Bible.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
A lot of people who believe in God say things like that. It's quite common to hear people say things like "God is all powerful," "God loves you," "God has a plan for you." It could be a load of malarkey (and it probably is), just like the statement "God exists."
Christians say things like that. They don't speak for all God believers though.
 

Quagmire

Imaginary talking monkey
Staff member
Premium Member
You know it's funny: back in my hitchhiking days there were plenty of times I would find myself on the side of the highway praying for a ride and not getting one.

Then at some point I would get *****ed off and start screaming at God, "You ~@%&$#!%~!!!!$^$@!^@!! What the #@%#@~%~~ is wrong with you???? You can create a !~%#!~$ing universe but you can't send me one ^$@~^@^%$@!!! ride????!!! !#@$^@ YOU !~$!$! YOU !#^$#^$#@YOU!!!!"

And then somebody would pull over and give me a ride. Seemed like the least likely time for someone to pull over, what with me swearing at the sky and all, but there you go.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
You know it's funny: back in my hitchhiking days there were plenty of times I would find myself on the side of the highway praying for a ride and not getting one.

Then at some point I would get *****ed off and start screaming at God, "You ~@%&$#!%~!!!!$^$@!^@!! What the #@%#@~%~~ is wrong with you???? You can create a !~%#!~$ing universe but you can't send me one ^$@~^@^%$@!!! ride????!!! !#@$^@ YOU !~$!$! YOU !#^$#^$#@YOU!!!!"

And then somebody would pull over and give me a ride. Seemed like the least likely time for someone to pull over, what with me swearing at the sky and all, but there you go.
reminds me of when I was homeless and drenched in the rain. I started screaming profanity at God, and then someone took me in and gave me donuts, dry shirt, and coffee.
 

Quagmire

Imaginary talking monkey
Staff member
Premium Member
reminds me of when I was homeless and drenched in the rain. I started screaming profanity at God, and then someone took me in and gave me donuts, dry shirt, and coffee.

There's a lesson in there somewhere. Not sure what it is.
 
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