I have deep hatred for Homosexuality & Lesbianism

[jonathan180iq]

It just that i hate people sinning and going against nature

You are aware that homosexual expression is entirely natural, right? It's present not just in mammals either. It's all over the animal kingdom. It's just as natural as your morning boner.

 

[Demonslayer]

It's just as natural as your morning boner.

Hey, how did you know about that? Stop peeking in my window, pervert!

 

[jonathan180iq]

Hey, how did you know about that? Stop peeking in my window, pervert!

Excuse me! But it's hard to miss it...

 

[Demonslayer]

Not everyone has to like homosexuality just because they are told they must.

I think the point is, adherence to religions like Islam and Christianity with dogma that outlaws homosexuality, causes 'deep hatred' for gay people, as the OP outlines.

Can that be good? Can it be a good aspect of religion to cause 'deep hatred' among groups of people? Gay people aren't going anywhere. Is it best to carry on with deep hatred, or would a better way to live life be to come to an understanding and peaceful acceptance that people have varied sexuality and to each their own?

No one is saying you have to "like homosexuality." The point is God's religious mandate in the Abrahamic texts to kill gay people has caused out species unnecessary hatred and violence for far too long.

I don't "like homosexuality" any more than I "like seeing obese people at the beach." I'd prefer not to witness either. But I'm not going to run around saying fat people at the beach shouldn't get married and fat people at the beach are dirty sinners, simply because I'm not a far of the visual.

 

[Demonslayer]

Excuse me! But it's hard to miss it...

*swells with pride*

 

[Machavelle]

My first choice would be that people be good to other people based on good motives. My second choice would be that people be good to other people hypocritically. Your option is less desirable than the other two.


Why do you respect his right to an opinion, but not mine?

Because your opinion is that he should not express his opinion, you are expressing yours, and that's good, however it's hypocrisy to have an opinion that he cannot have one.

If he hates homosexuality he should express himself honestly, although perhaps only if asked rather then just putting it out there.

If someone disliked me for whatever reason, I would prefer they told me, rather then give me a fake smile.

 

[Machavelle]

I think the point is, adherence to religions like Islam and Christianity with dogma that outlaws homosexuality, causes 'deep hatred' for gay people, as the OP outlines.

Can that be good? Can it be a good aspect of religion to cause 'deep hatred' among groups of people? Gay people aren't going anywhere. Is it best to carry on with deep hatred, or would a better way to live life be to come to an understanding and peaceful acceptance that people have varied sexuality and to each their own?

No one is saying you have to "like homosexuality." The point is God's religious mandate in the Abrahamic texts to kill gay people has caused out species unnecessary hatred and violence for far too long.

I don't "like homosexuality" any more than I "like seeing obese people at the beach." I'd prefer not to witness either. But I'm not going to run around saying fat people at the beach shouldn't get married and fat people at the beach are dirty sinners, simply because I'm not a far of the visual.

I think it is foolish to dislike people based on sexual orientation, however my point is the right to express his opinion is important.

I don't agree with his opinion, I respect his right, and his honesty for expressing what many feel but will not say.

 

[Demonslayer]

I think it is foolish to dislike people based on sexual orientation, however my point is the right to express his opinion is important.

I don't agree with his opinion, I respect his right, and his honesty for expressing what many feel but will not say.

Sure, I suppose I can agree with that. Certainly we all have the right to say how we feel, and I suppose honesty is better than not being honest.

Although perhaps a better course of action would be to try to recognize his hatred as a negative force, and include a statement like "I'm working on becoming more tolerant" rather than wearing his honest bigotry as a badge of honor. No one starts a post voluntarily about having deep hatred for a group of people without feeling proud about it.

Still, in my opinion the root of the deep hatred is the real issue. And the root of hatred for gay people in nearly every single case, is religious belief.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Because your opinion is that he should not express his opinion, you are expressing yours, and that's good, however it's hypocrisy to have an opinion that he cannot have one.

You're reading things into my posts that I never said. He has the right to speak his mind (in general, in public forums... noting that discussion boards like these are not public forums). I only demand the right to respond to what he says.

If he hates homosexuality he should express himself honestly, although perhaps only if asked rather then just putting it out there.

Why homosexuality specifically? If we spent our time expressing all of our positions on every issue where we have an opinion, we wouldn't have time to say anything else?

If someone disliked me for whatever reason, I would prefer they told me, rather then give me a fake smile.

I'm not sure I believe you.

 

[Debater Slayer]

Sometimes I feel genuine relief to have left Islam and moved on from believing in most of its teachings. This is one of those times.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Because your opinion is that he should not express his opinion, you are expressing yours, and that's good, however it's hypocrisy to have an opinion that he cannot have one.

I think you've assumed that when I say that he should be ashamed of his position, I'm threatening to silence him if he expresses it; I'm not. What I hope is that he will become convinced that hatred of gay people is wrong and that he'll freely choose not to express this any more... hopefully because he no longer hates gay people.

In the meantime, though, he has every right to say what he thinks about gay people... and I have every right to say what I think of him.

 

[Machavelle]

I think you've assumed that when I say that he should be ashamed of his position, I'm threatening to silence him if he expresses it; I'm not. What I hope is that he will become convinced that hatred of gay people is wrong and that he'll freely choose not to express this any more... hopefully because he no longer hates gay people.

In the meantime, though, he has every right to say what he thinks about gay people... and I have every right to say what I think of him.

Very true

 

[leibowde84]

For obvious reasons.

I find it disgusting.

Nothing personal, gay and lesbian members on religiousforums.
Its better to behonest than to wear fake mask


I would appreciate if islamhaters admitted it just like i admit my clear hate for LGTB.

You say it's "disgusting", but that doesn't really answer the question. I, for example, find many things to be disgusting that I don't "hate" or even "dislike". Do you hate everything that you find disgusting? Why do you find it disgusting?

 

[leibowde84]

Clearly i have phobia.
Same with when neonazi burns from anger after seeing jew.
Or kkk member seeing black man.


But i can control my anger. Gladly iam peaceful human.

But, this hatred is effecting you negatively, obviously. So, you should try to work on changing the way that you feel about the LGBT community. They aren't going anywhere, and it is only going to get harder to express views like this (hatred of any group without cause). So, it is 100% on you to change the way you think, or get ready to be ridiculed later on. The choice is yours.

 

[leibowde84]

For obvious reasons.

I find it disgusting.

Nothing personal, gay and lesbian members on religiousforums.
Its better to behonest than to wear fake mask


I would appreciate if islamhaters admitted it just like i admit my clear hate for LGTB.

Finding something disgusting is not valid reasoning for hating it. Homosexuality is a sexual orientation, so it is pretty prejudiced to hate people because of it.

 

[MARCELLO]

I simply don't get it. Let me speak frankly.

For fornication? It is 100 lashes in public and exile for a year from the town/city/province. But not to worry, this only applies to Muslims, who accept this as a just form of punishment if they ever fall into this crime/sin.

Wow ,wonderful.

 

[Gharib]

I simply don't get it. Let me speak frankly.

Wow ,wonderful.

Thanks.

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

Mohammed is the

I am extremely sorry for what I have written here. Ohh no, I am not a guy to write these kind of things. Pls excuse me my muslim friends.

U shouldnt apologize.

Just relieve ur hatred.

 

[jonathan180iq]

You know what pisses me off? Left handed people! They're so disgusting. It's unnatural, the way they hold their pencils in the wrong hand like that...
We should publicly beat them for being the way that they are, don't you guys agree?

My dislike for left handed people doesn't come just from me though. Zeus hates them too. Praise the gods that I'm on the right side of this argument!

 

[MARCELLO]

U shouldnt apologize.

Just relieve ur hatred.

I did not apologize from you. You are not worth for it,I am sorry