I see your point SKWIM and it is a valid one ,however you are quoting the bible and I belive Servant_of_the_One1 is a Muslim.
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I have deep hatred for Homosexuality & Lesbianism
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Shadow Wolf
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Yeah, because it couldn't be possible they actually are nice people.
What shame and guilt? Another Christian here recently assumed I have these two things, but I do not.
Thanks for clarifying that
Yeah, I think that was a bit over the top.
It is quite delusional and suicidal. Personally, I only defend cultures where, if I or someone like me were to live in them, would be free to live in peace, with civil rights and liberties. Otherwise, **** them. They are savage and not worth defending. If you would not defend my rights - especially if you become the the majority! - then I would be quite stupid to defend your ideology!
Flankerl
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I don't know, I am generally under the impression that people who hate homosexuals, non-theists, heretics, heathens, secular people and everyone else aren't nice.
And sorry but that is the majority of the people who are coming here.
It ain't my fault that they are like that.
PS: The list is actually longer but I am not bored enough to write it all down
PPS: You will also not change them.
Where are you getting that most or "many" Muslims do not support those things?
Sure, they have the freedom to worship as they please in the West. But the question really is whether they would extend that same right to you or others if they become the majority. It's the same as how neo-Nazis have the right to be neo-Nazis, but you wouldn't defend neo-Nazism or want them to gain much power as a group. When encountering a neo-Nazi, you argue with him or otherwise make your displeasure known. If they get out of hand, you knock 'em on the head to put them in their place for the good of all. That's how it works.
Shadow Wolf
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Well, obviously, a hater isn't nice. That's why we call them haters. But a lot of people aren't.
The one's I've met are mostly nice people. I've met a few that aren't, but most of the people coming that I've met are decent people (I've especially met a lot of Mexican and German immigrants).
Shadow Wolf
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Many Muslims, especially Western Muslims, don't support such things. You don't see them treating women horribly, and you don't hear them calling to murder apostates or demanding people convert to Islam. The Taliban may have a strict "no women" allowed in the military, but the Kurds allow women to fight in their military. And, much like Christians, some Muslims believe everyone should have to follow and obey their religious laws while some believe only believers should.
vaguelyhumanoid
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I actually love Islamic architecture, calligraphy etc but as a queer pagan I'd probably get beaten up or imprisoned in a lot of Muslim countries.
Flankerl
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You see you are from across the pond.
Basically everything negative regarding immigration doesn't concern you because all the poor uneducated people from the arab world who by large tend to be more "unfriendly" than others can never ever come to your country.
I live on the other side of the pond. They come here rather easily.
I have to agree with you here. My childrens doctor is a Muslim. I know him and his family well. They are good people who would never mistreat another because of differing views.
Apparently, some Buddhist cultures' anti-gay attitudes were imported from Confucianism.
I don't know how many Muslims you have in your area or where they're from, but I can tell you that most of them or at least a large chunk do support those things. In my area, there has been a huge influx of North and East African Muslims in the last decade or so. It is quite astonishing how quickly their numbers and presence has grown. It is getting to the point that you are seeing more foreigners than Americans when you go grocery shopping. Seeing women in niqabs, little girls that are only about 4 years old being made to wear the veil and Muslim men wearing the Salafi "uniform" of the long white thawb and taqiyah cap are all everyday things here. The women are treated much as brood mares and have a high number of children. The men are very controlling over them and are violent towards them, as well. Many of them are very disrespectful towards outsiders and the men are disrespectful towards women in general.
I live in a duplex and the people who live right next to me are Sudanese. The husband is 11 years older than the wife and is a Muslim from Darfur. The wife is 22, was married off when she was 14 and is from a Christian family. They are horrible. They mistreat their kids, he beats her and tries to control her, she already has 3 or 4 kids and was pregnant this year but I think she lost the baby, they hate Westerners and white people, are trashy, are drunks, etc.
These are common things with these people. I don't know what la-la land you're living in.
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Timothy Bryce
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The only trouble I've ever had with gays is when I've been involved in social networks where I've had relationships with women who happened to be friends with gay men who just so happened to be gossiping and talking **** with these women and undermining my business which had nothing to do with them. But these are truly isolated incidents that don't necessarily correlate with those individuals' "gayness"; just a phenomenon that's come out of the social constructs that seem to cloud homosexuality.
Other than that, why the hate? As long as there's no rape involved, no harm / no foul.
Other than that, why the hate? As long as there's no rape involved, no harm / no foul.
Hell, no. Why would you think I did?
Skwim
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Good point. I'll cite some of those activities the Quran says are sins.
Ten of the seventy major sins in Islam
#27 Collecting taxes
#42 Listening to the private conversations
#37 Showing off in good work
#20 Gambling
#56 Men wearing silk or gold
#30 Telling lies
#48 Picture-making
#36 Not freeing oneself of all traces of urine
#19 Drinking Alcohol
#55 Dragging the hem of one's garment out of conceit
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#27 Collecting taxes
#42 Listening to the private conversations
#37 Showing off in good work
#20 Gambling
#56 Men wearing silk or gold
#30 Telling lies
#48 Picture-making
#36 Not freeing oneself of all traces of urine
#19 Drinking Alcohol
#55 Dragging the hem of one's garment out of conceit
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number 27 and 36 make sense though.
Shadow Wolf
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They are coming here to. Syrian refuges even got the Republicans talking about homeless veterans all of a sudden and taking better care of post-service veterans.
Skwim
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Not saying any of them don't make sense. It's just that The Servant of the One1 said he hates people sinning, which I assume is on par with his deep hatred for Homosexuality & Lesbianism, some of which I also assume would be transferred to those who commit these sins.number 27 and 36 make sense though.
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