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I just want to sin!!!

ppp

ppp

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KenS said:
You are sooooo right and, unfortunately, there are people who say things like the one you just mentioned.

Certainly, you have the right and they have the wrong (whoever said that to you).

Scriptures are very clear... "For ALL have sinned and come short of the glory of God".

Was it your desire just to air our your correct viewpoint?
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I just saw the statement on another thread and thought I would raise it. Doesn't seem to be any dissention on the point.
 
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sun rise

The world is on fire
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Shadow Wolf said:
True, but in the general sense Christianity does repress much, and it is best to not repress most of it.
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It's certainly true that the quantity and ugliness of so many priest scandals is directly tied to their vow of celibacy.

And there are more socially acceptable ways of letting things out. I've pulled my share of weeds with serious anger being vented on them, for example.
 
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Kenny

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
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Shadow Wolf said:
True, but in the general sense Christianity does repress much, and it is best to not repress most of it.
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I guess some may... but I don't really agree with the statement--at least that isn't how it played out in my life.
 
Kenny

Kenny

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Policy said:
I just saw the statement on another thread and thought I would raise it. Doesn't seem to be any dissention on the point.
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At the same time... I think whoever did author it was exaggerating just a tiny bit. :) maybe more than a tiny bit.
 
Audie

Audie

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loverofhumanity said:
Only pure and goodly deeds are acceptable to God. The hypocritical are not forgiven unless they change. Just verbal belief means absolutely nothing to God. Belief and obedience are one process. You can’t be a believer in God if it’s purely verbal.

In the Bible it says that.

Not everyone who says to Me, “Lord, Lord,” will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. Many will say to Me on that day, “Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?” And then I will declare to them, “I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.” Matthew 7:22-23
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Like we have not heard that 10,000 times
 
Neuropteron

Neuropteron

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Policy said:
I am ever-so-often told by Christians who find out that I do not believe that a god exists, that “You are denying God because you just want to sin.” This has always struck me as a bizarre thing to say, as I cannot think of anything that a Christian would consider a sin that I would have needed to leave Christianity to do.

I mean there are lots of good Christians out there doing great things, and most of you are perfectly decent people who I would probably enjoy having as coworkers and neighbors. But seriously folks, you all sin. Every last one of you. You sin inadvertently. You sin impulsively. You sin with premeditation. You covet coworkers, neighbors, friends and random strangers. You covet their stuff and their bodies. Unless you are asexual or (possibly) greysexual, you commit adultery in your hearts, and roughly 25% of you commit adultery in your pants as a married person.

Christian employees steal quarters from their coworker’s desks to buy cokes and they steal office supplies from their employers. Christian employers don’t pay a living wage, and then call the employee lazy when they refuse to work extra hours (bearing false witness). Sometimes the employer even fires them; and while there is no ‘Thou shalt not be a jerk’ commandment, the golden rule takes a beating several times a day/

You leave your parents in nursing homes when you could move them in with you. (C’mon folks! Honor your mother and father.)

You do illegal drugs. You take the lord’s name in vain. You get divorced.

And yet, You are saved by your acceptance of Jesus Christ into your heart as your own personal Lord and Saviour. Hallelujah and Amen. Sing it, Sister!

"I've been redeemed by the blood of the Lamb,
saved and sanctified I am.
All my sins are washed away,
I've been redeemed."​

“unchastity, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, licentiousness, envy, blasphemy, arrogance, folly”

So, exactly why would I need to leave Christianity to do anything? All the “sins” I might ever commit, I could commit as a Christian. And be saved.
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Hi,
You make some valid comments.
Lets keep in mind that "Christians" that do the things you mention are not "saved" just because they say so, they are only fooling themselves and giving true Christians a bad name.
 
Kenny

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
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Policy said:
I agree. But honestly I have heard it at least 50 times over the course of my life. It seems to be a standard refrain. [shrug]
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Well... on behalf of those who say such things please forgive us and please use the words of Jesus as he hung on the cross "Father, forgive them for they know not what they do". :)
 
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F1fan

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loverofhumanity said:
Only pure and goodly deeds are acceptable to God. The hypocritical are not forgiven unless they change. Just verbal belief means absolutely nothing to God. Belief and obedience are one process. You can’t be a believer in God if it’s purely verbal.

In the Bible it says that.

Not everyone who says to Me, “Lord, Lord,” will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. Many will say to Me on that day, “Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?” And then I will declare to them, “I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.” Matthew 7:22-23
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The funny thing is that if Christians really believed in God and sinning leading to judgment, then we would see Christians bending over backwards trying to follow the basics of what Jesus taught and be overly good in every task in life. I've had debates with Christians who insist that once they accept Jesus as savior they are guaranteed a heavenly reward. They deny they need to perform works or be moral. I am still astounded there are Christians who give themselves this exemption, and aren't to be held accountable for sin, even murder. They're saved.

This is similar to the example of Hitler being in heaven and Gandhi being in hell, all due to one accepting jesus as savior. This strikes me as an exploitation of God's rules, and not a good faith understanding of what any of these ideas meant originally.
 
Audie

Audie

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F1fan said:
The funny thing is that if Christians really believed in God and sinning leading to judgment, then we would see Christians bending over backwards trying to follow the basics of what Jesus taught and be overly good in every task in life. I've had debates with Christians who insist that once they accept Jesus as savior they are guaranteed a heavenly reward. They deny they need to perform works or be moral. I am still astounded there are Christians who give themselves this exemption, and aren't to be held accountable for sin, even murder. They're saved.

This is similar to the example of Hitler being in heaven and Gandhi being in hell, all due to one accepting jesus as savior. This strikes me as an exploitation of God's rules, and not a good faith understanding of what any of these ideas meant originally.
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No atheists in foxholes?

How many Christians say " Glory be, I am about to receive e- trrnal life!"...when they see the tanks coming.
 
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