I love sex....But I blame it on Satan

[Mr. Skittles]

Actually Satanists.......

I am under the impression that a part of the philosophy of satanist, indulging in the pleasures of sex is natural and should be embraced (but if I am wrong please correct me). If I am correct, then I must ask: if indulging in the pleasures of sex is right then is indulging in the pleasures of risky sex (risk could be sleeping with strangers or multiple strangers or having sex without using a contraceptive).

Perhaps some would argue that indulging in the pleasures of the flesh is normal and risk attributed to that is perhaps societies way of "demonizing" (no pun intended) it....At least I could see a satanist argue that point. However, with the rapid spread of HIV/AIDS and bacterial STD's and herpes is indulging in the flesh the right thing?

I guess in other words by embracing my sexual desires as apart of my human nature am I doing more harm than good?

 

[The Sum of Awe]

Even a Satanist would say complete indulgence in sex is bad. Moderation of sex FTW!

 

[Shuddhasattva]

Depends what kind of Satanist. Ego-worshipers, yes. Self-worshipers - maybe.

But for the Self-worshiping Satan, the most important thing is perfect free will, what we would call in the Hindu Vamachara (analogous to Satanism) Svatantrya. Not just perfect free will, but will completely subsumed into the Self, Will with a capital 'W.' It is by this Will that all Mysteries are effected.

Tangential desires prey upon the ego, but they do not represent the Self. To the Self, they can be both bondage and liberation, as accords the Will. It is the Will that is important, not gratification of momentary constructs.

Should note that Vamachara is somewhat less individualistic. Or rather, it is less solely individualistic, it considers the individual to be the collective in truth, and thus one is not just a god, but The God, and imbued with The God's Free Will. A key principle here is the synthesis of Aham (I am; Subjectivity, the Self) and Idam (What Is, Objectivity & the Collective as it is the receptacle of all Aham). This may or may not be present in Satanism, which does not necessarily embrace monism.


To answer your questions, embracing your sexual desires should be so in the context of your own truly free will, not your will bound by the limitations of biological consciousness. These limitations, of course, cannot be denied - that is the lower right hand path and that way lies madness. They must be subsumed. Any effective means can be employed to accomplish this, including indulgence. But automatic indulgence is just stupid.

Decide as per a case by case basis (ie, I'm sure this person doesn't have STDs - they're a regular partner, and we both make it a point to verify before sleeping with people, or employ proper protection - yes, this too is subject to error but not nearly so much as indiscriminance (is that a word?)).

And above all, decide as to the overriding purpose you have self-nominated through the capacity to illuminate an ideal. Does this act serve My purpose? Am I being true to my Self? That, to me, is Satanism.

 

[Sleeppy]

You sound like you've already got your answer. But, you could just keep risking STDs..

 

[Cassiopia]

Actually Satanists.......

I am under the impression that a part of the philosophy of satanist, indulging in the pleasures of sex is natural and should be embraced (but if I am wrong please correct me). If I am correct, then I must ask: if indulging in the pleasures of sex is right then is indulging in the pleasures of risky sex (risk could be sleeping with strangers or multiple strangers or having sex without using a contraceptive).

To put it simply; no.
We must take responsibility for ourselves. There may be times when we want to take certain risks, but in that case we acknowledge those risks and accept the possible consequences.
When it comes to sex, yes we enjoy it, perhaps we indulge in it, but we should aim to do so responsibly. As a Satanist sex sometimes plays a part in ritual and magic, but the idea that we frequent orgies or have sex with anyone any-time anywhere is ridiculous. I always use contraception and on the rare occasion where I sleep with somebody I don't know very well I insist on using condoms or it doesn't happen.

Whatever your religion or personal philosophy, if you care about yourself and if you care at all about other people, safe sex should be the norm.

 

[Orias]

Actually Satanists.......

I am under the impression that a part of the philosophy of satanist, indulging in the pleasures of sex is natural and should be embraced (but if I am wrong please correct me). If I am correct, then I must ask: if indulging in the pleasures of sex is right then is indulging in the pleasures of risky sex (risk could be sleeping with strangers or multiple strangers or having sex without using a contraceptive).

Perhaps some would argue that indulging in the pleasures of the flesh is normal and risk attributed to that is perhaps societies way of "demonizing" (no pun intended) it....At least I could see a satanist argue that point. However, with the rapid spread of HIV/AIDS and bacterial STD's and herpes is indulging in the flesh the right thing?

I guess in other words by embracing my sexual desires as apart of my human nature am I doing more harm than good?

I personally find little gratification in sex. For me its always been kind of risky, but I don't advocate being a "player" or being "ho", I think its just silly waste of valuable time.

But if you want to go and sleep with strange women or men then I won't stop you. For the most part, Satanists find gratification in things that are more obvious in result and liability. Few will do things that are labeled "risky" in terms of personal exposure and other things that they might see as a threat to their own being.

But, I don't speak for all Satanists :bat:

 

[Mr. Skittles]

Even a Satanist would say complete indulgence in sex is bad. Moderation of sex FTW!

Really....So a Satanist would be against porn?

 

[Mr. Skittles]

I personally find little gratification in sex. For me its always been kind of risky, but I don't advocate being a "player" or being "ho", I think its just silly waste of valuable time.

But if you want to go and sleep with strange women or men then I won't stop you. For the most part, Satanists find gratification in things that are more obvious in result and liability. Few will do things that are labeled "risky" in terms of personal exposure and other things that they might see as a threat to their own being.

But, I don't speak for all Satanists :bat:

So Satanist are against porn?

 

[Mr. Skittles]

To put it simply; no.
We must take responsibility for ourselves. There may be times when we want to take certain risks, but in that case we acknowledge those risks and accept the possible consequences.
When it comes to sex, yes we enjoy it, perhaps we indulge in it, but we should aim to do so responsibly. As a Satanist sex sometimes plays a part in ritual and magic, but the idea that we frequent orgies or have sex with anyone any-time anywhere is ridiculous. I always use contraception and on the rare occasion where I sleep with somebody I don't know very well I insist on using condoms or it doesn't happen.

Whatever your religion or personal philosophy, if you care about yourself and if you care at all about other people, safe sex should be the norm.

But wouldn't a Satanist argue that "what is risk when the urge is there?" Life is a risk right?

 

[Cassiopia]

But wouldn't a Satanist argue that "what is risk when the urge is there?"

No. What makes you think that?

Life is a risk right?

Yes to some degree. And yes, it is sometimes beneficial t take risks, but not always.

 

[Me Myself]

Doing anything mindlessly or irresponsably is bad.

In any case, you don´t need to be a satanist to see sex in itself generates pleasure and taken with responsability (condoms or/and people you know for example ) is the absolute best and safest.

 

[Orias]

So Satanist are against porn?

Well porn isn't sex. But like I said, Satanists aren't actually against anything, besides that which they see as a threat. Even then, they may try and change it before they destroy it. :bat:

 

[idav]

I would just like to say that it is very rude for Satan to make me commit evil acts against my will. I wouldn't even like sex but Satan forces me too.:cover:

 

[Mr. Skittles]

No. What makes you think that?

Yes to some degree. And yes, it is sometimes beneficial t take risks, but not always.

Well regarding the first quote in which you questioned what made me think that, I would say that wouldn't you, as a satanist argue that the sexual urge is a natural stimulant of the human. Therefore, for a lack of a better word "horny" and wanting sex or wanting to have multiple partners is merely being human?

 

[Orias]

Well regarding the first quote in which you questioned what made me think that, I would say that wouldn't you, as a satanist argue that the sexual urge is a natural stimulant of the human. Therefore, for a lack of a better word "horny" and wanting sex or wanting to have multiple partners is merely being human?

Duh.

Thats like saying if you run into a wall you will run into a wall

 

[Mr. Skittles]

Doing anything mindlessly or irresponsably is bad.

In any case, you don´t need to be a satanist to see sex in itself generates pleasure and taken with responsability (condoms or/and people you know for example ) is the absolute best and safest.

Well, unless your completely intoxicated or simply a druggie I'm sure someone who loves having multiple partners isn't mindless. I think anyone choosing to have multiple partners (think swingers in this case) understands what they want.

 

[Orias]

I'm not so sure about that, a person like that either doesn't know what they want, they had a bad relationship in the past, or they are just sex driven. Which in that case they would know what they want, but its essentially meaningless.

 

[Mr. Skittles]

I would just like to say that it is very rude for Satan to make me commit evil acts against my will. I wouldn't even like sex but Satan forces me too.:cover:

LOL so Satan uses the "force" huh?

 

[Mr. Skittles]

Duh.

Thats like saying if you run into a wall you will run into a wall

ok um, well, nah I'm just gonna say ok...

 

[Mr. Skittles]

I'm not so sure about that, a person like that either doesn't know what they want, they had a bad relationship in the past, or they are just sex driven. Which in that case they would know what they want, but its essentially meaningless.

But wait....I love sex. I love being with different women and not being attached emotionally to one I think that is complete evidence of knowing what I want.