This was actually about a man withdrawing before emission because he didn't want to fulfil his duty and make his dead brother's wife pregnant, so G-d lightning-bolted him.
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I need some help overcoming my bad habit. I need to change who I am :(
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I don't believe you, no I really really don't believe you, everybody masturbates that's just a fact, some lie about it, that's a fact too.
VoidCat
Use any and all pronouns including neo and it/it's
Believe what you want but I do not. I just don't have the desire to.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Thankyou for that, and so it is a perfect example of the pressure put upon the people to 'couple' and to have lots of children, to make the people as strong and successful as possible.
No need for population explosion now..............
rogerfan123
New Member
Hey guys, I am deeply thankful for you all taking the time to respond to my post. I understand everything you spoke of about masturbation, but my main issue is actually with watching pornography ( I'm not addicted) and the fact that I swore to god multiple times about this issue in the hopes of quitting but failed him. I want to make this right, and I am the one who made the promise so It's my duty to live up to my word I think. I know masturbation in and of itself isn't bad but Porn is what makes me feel guilty.
TheresOnlyNow
The Mind Is Everything. U R What U Think
I've lurked at or been a member of Christian discussion communities for a few years now. It never fails that someone posts, as a new member, a thread like this. I often wonder if it is because they think they'll upset the Fundies present.
I'll say this. The creator of the universe and all that exists, seen and unseen, known and as yet unrealized, would have to be myopic with nothing better to do than monitor a man and his relationship with his penis for this to be an offense that could send that man to Hell.
While the prohibition itself is derived from the OT, the Hebrew's and their Bible. Part of the evidence that the first faith is to believe human's had nothing at all to do with wording the Bible.
It all pertains to the value of the tribes and the seed of man in the early era of the Hebrew's culture.
Tribal identity. Which is why their Bible said, paraphrasing here, it was OK to enslave a people after battle. Just as long as those persons were not of the victors tribe. (There are 12 Tribes of Israel)
This is also why there is no scripture in the OT that forbids pre-marital sex.
Because in those times, teachings, having sex would mean the couple were wed. The male would then have to pay the father of the woman he bed a 'bride price'. Disturbingly enough, this pertained to the offense of rape as well.
If a Hebrew woman was raped her rapist would have to take her as bride. Paying the father 40 pieces of silver for that "right". (That's ten pieces of silver more than what Judas received for selling out the Christ to the elders of the Temple in the NT).
However, there was a catch. If the girl seemed to enjoy her ravishing both were to be stoned to death.
God of love , tribal people of whacked!
In any case, that is the whole roundabout reason masturbation is condemned. Spilling the seed, being the Hebrew legal system was prosecuted as Patriarchal, while inheritance into Judaism is Matriarchal. I.E. Passes through the woman.
Spilling the seed in masturbation was believed to have declined and insulted the tribe's inheritance of the future.
Suffice to say, if God has nothing better to do than to watch his people self-pleasure and therein condemn them to Hell for that, those folks are worshiping the wrong god.
Orgasm is of God.
Editing for this PS.
If you masturbate more than you do anything else in your day, you need a girlfriend. Or perhaps a therapist. Seriously.
I'll say this. The creator of the universe and all that exists, seen and unseen, known and as yet unrealized, would have to be myopic with nothing better to do than monitor a man and his relationship with his penis for this to be an offense that could send that man to Hell.
While the prohibition itself is derived from the OT, the Hebrew's and their Bible. Part of the evidence that the first faith is to believe human's had nothing at all to do with wording the Bible.
It all pertains to the value of the tribes and the seed of man in the early era of the Hebrew's culture.
Tribal identity. Which is why their Bible said, paraphrasing here, it was OK to enslave a people after battle. Just as long as those persons were not of the victors tribe. (There are 12 Tribes of Israel)
This is also why there is no scripture in the OT that forbids pre-marital sex.
Because in those times, teachings, having sex would mean the couple were wed. The male would then have to pay the father of the woman he bed a 'bride price'. Disturbingly enough, this pertained to the offense of rape as well.
If a Hebrew woman was raped her rapist would have to take her as bride. Paying the father 40 pieces of silver for that "right". (That's ten pieces of silver more than what Judas received for selling out the Christ to the elders of the Temple in the NT).
However, there was a catch. If the girl seemed to enjoy her ravishing both were to be stoned to death.
God of love , tribal people of whacked!
In any case, that is the whole roundabout reason masturbation is condemned. Spilling the seed, being the Hebrew legal system was prosecuted as Patriarchal, while inheritance into Judaism is Matriarchal. I.E. Passes through the woman.
Spilling the seed in masturbation was believed to have declined and insulted the tribe's inheritance of the future.
Suffice to say, if God has nothing better to do than to watch his people self-pleasure and therein condemn them to Hell for that, those folks are worshiping the wrong god.
Orgasm is of God.
Editing for this PS.
If you masturbate more than you do anything else in your day, you need a girlfriend. Or perhaps a therapist. Seriously.
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oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Hi........ the above written to another..........
Some folks have no sexual drive at all, Lyndon, although they often have other intense pursuits such as gambling, intense sports, drink, etc etc.......
VoidCat
Use any and all pronouns including neo and it/it's
As I have said I do have a problem with porn as self-harm...I had to have a therapist help me quit. Even through you aren't addicted going to a therapist could help out with that. Again just a suggestion.
VoidCat
Use any and all pronouns including neo and it/it's
Thank you.Hi........ the above written to another..........
Some folks have no sexual drive at all, Lyndon, although they often have other intense pursuits such as gambling, intense sports, drink, etc etc.......
Rational Agnostic
Well-Known Member
Exactly. Why would the creator of the universe care what humans do with their private parts?
Earthling
David Henson
My advice to you is to keep your faith in God and allow your knowledge to increase (John 17:3) and if you are fortunate to make it to your 50's you will likely become bored with the habit and it will diminish substantially. There's nothing in the Bible that would indicate masturbation is a sin. If you were to refrain from your habit you would eventually have nocturnal emissions naturally. But, you would have blue balls tormenting you unmercifully.
Earthling
David Henson
Uh . . . because he also created those private parts?
I agree with the sentiment in previous posts that there is no problem with the inclination to masturbate. At your age, your libido is pretty much on par with just about any other average male of the same age and the act of masturbating is quite commonplace in your age group.
Regarding the pornography concerns, if you're not addicted, as you said, and and you made a promise that you feel is important enough to be kept, why not just fulfill the promise and stop looking at porn?
Spiderman
Veteran Member
True!
God understands since 99.9% of men have that habit, I don't think it could be something God would condemn people for.
rogerfan123
New Member
I totally understand the sentiment, but both are linked together right? I mean I never look at pornography just for the heck of watching it. That's why i wanted to address the whole Masturbation + Pornography thing :/. I think subconsciously I obviously enjoy watching it to some degree, but I don't want to continue on this path. God this whole thing is so tough to control. On a biological level it totally makes sense, but I really through I had great control over my thoughts and actions. I hope this makes sense!
Cooky
Veteran Member
Anything that makes someone feel guilty, must be wrong IMO.
Cooky
Veteran Member
I think "blue balls" is a myth.
Five informatives! Pritty sure all this is common knowledge!
If you stop masturbating you will stop looking at porn intentionally.
While it's difficult at age 21 I went 6 months clean when I was like 16 so I know it's possible... I just didn't want to do it then.
Two keys to not masturbate as much: Distract your body, distract your mind. If you feel the urge go for a walk. Looking at bad pictures or revealing women is impossible to avoid, but try to avoid them and keep your mind clean. If you concentrate on something else as soon as possible, usually that image will go away in a short time.
Another key is to work in a team.
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Since August I masturbated twice because I believed in a different religion... when I believe in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints I do not masturbate any more.